JetNation Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 As Mike Maccagnan and the New York Jets enter the second season of a tear-down and re-build, there will be plenty of big decisions to be made by his personnel and coaching staffs. One key decision was made by Todd Bowles when he promoted quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates to the offensive coordinator position following the firing of John Morton. Jets officially announced these coaching hires: *Jeremy Bates promoted to OC/QB coach*Rick Dennison hired as OL coach/run game coordinator*Steve Jackson hired as asst. DB coach. — Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 14, 2018 With Bates on board to run the offense, one has to wonder if his hiring could play a part in triggering the potential release of offensive lineman James Carpenter. We mentioned the possibility of Carpenter’s possible release last month right here, but bringing Bates on board could make it that much more likely. After two stellar seasons in New York, Carpenter entered the 2017 season widely regarded as the team’s best free agent acquisition by Mike Maccagnan, quickly earning a reputation as a mauler in the trenches who was going to suit up and perform at a high level on a weekly basis. In Chan Gailey’s offense, Carpenter played at a Pro-Bowl level for two seasons. However, a shift in philosophy this season saw him take a step backward, looking more like the player the Seattle Seahawks gave up on after a failed stint under Pete Carroll. Not that you’d need to rely on a PFF grade to know Carpenter struggled, but the site ranked 77th among graded guards with a 41.1. That tells you that his struggles weren’t an illusion. They were very real. Upon arriving in New York, Carpenter openly acknowledged that what he was being asked to do for Gailey was a better fit for the type of player he is. In an interview with Rich Cimini of ESPN, Carpenter was quoted as saying, “This offense is like a dream to me — man and power blocking,” said Carpenter, who played in a zone-blocking scheme in Seattle. “It’s a dream come true for me. That’s the type of lineman I am.” “Man and power blocking” would be another way of saying the exact opposite of what the Jets are likely to run under Bates who cut his teeth working under Mike Shannahan, whose zone blocking scheme led the Broncos to build a reputation as an offense that could produce 1,000 yard rushers no matter who was in the backfield. If Bates is in fact going to rely heavily on a zone scheme, it means Carpenter will be asked once again to play in an offense that doesn’t suit his strengths, at a cost of $6.8 million to the Jets, whereas moving on from the Alabama product could free up $4.7 million. Is that money the Jets could use to pursue a replacement who is better suited for their scheme? Carpenter is a high character player that any team would love to have in their locker room, and the Jets can clearly afford to keep around with their current cap situation. But is it worth it if it means trying to put a square peg in a round hole? We’ll find out in the coming weeks and months if the Jets will look to move on from Carpenter, or write off 2017 as an aberration and go to war with him again in 2018. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Don't most 1 hour ago, JetNation said: After two stellar seasons in New York, Carpenter entered the 2017 season widely regarded as the team’s best free agent acquisition by Mike Maccagnan, quickly earning a reputation as a mauler in the trenches who was going to suit up and perform at a high level on a weekly basis. In Chan Gailey’s offense, Carpenter played at a Pro-Bowl level for two seasons. Click here to read the full story... Don't most guys that play at a Pro-Bowl level, you know, make a Pro-Bowl? I think Carpenter is gone, but I don't think there is anything in his contract (roster/workout bonus) that encourages them to dump him early. I imagine they keep him through FA/draft until they can replace him as a floor at LG, unless they need the money sooner for something - Cousins, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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varjet Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 As tempting as it is to try and draft a center, I think the Jets should try and fill that through FA. If Cousins signs, solidifying the left guard spot with Nelson at 6 is not a crazy move. If you cut Carpenter you get better play and an incremental cost of about $3mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFanatic Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm fine with releasing Carpenter if that means that they will be drafting Quenton Nelson at 6 and/or signing Ryan Jensen or Weston Richburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Only the Jets can bring a coach in with a different philosophy to therefore result in a complete over haul towards the talent (or lack) we have at OL. When Bates finally find his 5 OL that fits his blocking scheme he'll be fired and we'll bring in a OC with a power blocking scheme. That would of course lead us getting rid of those who fit the zone blocking scheme and rinse and repeat. We'll be going in circles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 7 hours ago, JetNation said: As Mike Maccagnan and the New York Jets enter the second season of a tear-down and re-build, there will be plenty of big decisions to be made by his personnel and coaching staffs. One key decision was made by Todd Bowles when he promoted quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates to the offensive coordinator position following the firing of John Morton. With Bates on board to run the offense, one has to wonder if his hiring could play a part in triggering the potential release of offensive lineman James Carpenter. We mentioned the possibility of Carpenter’s possible release last month right here, but bringing Bates on board could make it that much more likely. After two stellar seasons in New York, Carpenter entered the 2017 season widely regarded as the team’s best free agent acquisition by Mike Maccagnan, quickly earning a reputation as a mauler in the trenches who was going to suit up and perform at a high level on a weekly basis. In Chan Gailey’s offense, Carpenter played at a Pro-Bowl level for two seasons. However, a shift in philosophy this season saw him take a step backward, looking more like the player the Seattle Seahawks gave up on after a failed stint under Pete Carroll. Not that you’d need to rely on a PFF grade to know Carpenter struggled, but the site ranked 77th among graded guards with a 41.1. That tells you that his struggles weren’t an illusion. They were very real. Upon arriving in New York, Carpenter openly acknowledged that what he was being asked to do for Gailey was a better fit for the type of player he is. In an interview with Rich Cimini of ESPN, Carpenter was quoted as saying, “This offense is like a dream to me — man and power blocking,” said Carpenter, who played in a zone-blocking scheme in Seattle. “It’s a dream come true for me. That’s the type of lineman I am.” “Man and power blocking” would be another way of saying the exact opposite of what the Jets are likely to run under Bates who cut his teeth working under Mike Shannahan, whose zone blocking scheme led the Broncos to build a reputation as an offense that could produce 1,000 yard rushers no matter who was in the backfield. If Bates is in fact going to rely heavily on a zone scheme, it means Carpenter will be asked once again to play in an offense that doesn’t suit his strengths, at a cost of $6.8 million to the Jets, whereas moving on from the Alabama product could free up $4.7 million. Is that money the Jets could use to pursue a replacement who is better suited for their scheme? Carpenter is a high character player that any team would love to have in their locker room, and the Jets can clearly afford to keep around with their current cap situation. But is it worth it if it means trying to put a square peg in a round hole? We’ll find out in the coming weeks and months if the Jets will look to move on from Carpenter, or write off 2017 as an aberration and go to war with him again in 2018. Click here to read the full story... Zoen blocking is NOT Carpenter's forte apparently. He didn't do well inS eattle with it. Time to cut bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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