j4jets Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 hours ago, choon328 said: Signed Bortles to 3 yr $54 million extension Come again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 What this says is Draft a rookie QB. If Blake's making 18 per, then Drafting a QB on cheap Money for at least 3-4 years makes sence. The modern NFL has made the QB even more important. I think people seem to be shocked over the prices for a QB now. I'm not, good ones change everything, and even average ones make an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 hours ago, choon328 said: Signed Bortles to 3 yr $54 million extension Reminds me of the time we gave Sanchez a 3 year extension with the exception of Bortles having more talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Lupz27 said: He won thou right? And let’s leave out the fact there was a constant 25 MPH wind with gusts up to 40 MPH during that game. No, his team won. He sucks. And don't even blame it on the wind. I don't ever recall hearing anything about 25 MPH winds and 40 MPH gusts. The guy was missing everything short and long, which isn't unusual for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, detectivekimble said: No, his team won. He sucks. And don't even blame it on the wind. I don't ever recall hearing anything about 25 MPH winds and 40 MPH gusts. The guy was missing everything short and long, which isn't unusual for him. You didn’t watch the game then dude, all the talk was about the wind that day in Jacksonville just ask out Jacksonville resident @JiF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Bortles might be meh but Marrone blew that title game. Be fair. Coach went conservative with a lead. Philly showed you need to roll the dice a little to beat BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 6 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Once bortles had surgery, they were locked into him for this year. Maybe this deal helps free up cap space this year. But bortles flat out sucks. They aren't worried about needing to franchise him because I doubt he's their starting QB by the end of the season. If they were locked into him and he has a good season, not completely out of the realm of possibility considering some past performances, then they are in a position where they might need to use the franchise tag in 2019. For those of you following this offseason the Jets may pay Cousins $60M in year 1 (franchise tag is the average of the top 5 paid at the position) haha no team is going to be able to franchise QBs until like year 2 or 3 of the Cousins deal if the Jets or Browns get him. This is one of my favorite side effects of the Cousins deal that no one is talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: Reminds me of the time we gave Sanchez a 3 year extension with the exception of Bortles having more talent. agree I wonder if bortles agent caught them talking about cousins and used it against them lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 They were never in the Cousins race to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Well, he is inaccurate but he can lug the rock. Those kinds of QBs do drive defenses crazy---provided they do it judiciously. Fact is, they are more likely to be physically crushed in the pocket than on the field running--with all these rules about hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 7 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Same QB that put up 45 points in Pittsburgh, and got his team a 2 score lead before his HC played pussy conservative football against the GOAT QB? Yeah that same QB, and that is not letting his team down, he bailed out his defense Vs Pitt who gave up 40+ points, and had Brady beat. The 2010 Jets beat the GOAT QB because Rex didn’t get conservative, and kept the offense aggressive making sure Brady couldn’t make a comeback which he was very close to doing just ran out of clock. Stop it. Bortles sucks because he's not an accurate thrower. He had 2 nice playoff games, nothing that takes away from his overall problems as a quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Coach went conservative in New England, yes ... mainly because he didn't trust his QB to win them the game. Pederson trusted his QB to win, and they did. Backup or not.Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 If the Jags wanted to do it, they could still get Eli Manning in for (I believe) 16 million for this season, especially if the Giants draft a QB at two. Not saying it’s likely, but this Bortles deal is a pretty obvious hedge, similar to Glennon’s deal, and as much as the Giants are pretending they still love Manning, everyone knows he’s toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, ASH1962 said: um, how far did they get in the playoffs again? As far as we did with Sanchez, but Sanchez did it two years in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 27 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Stop it. Bortles sucks because he's not an accurate thrower. He had 2 nice playoff games, nothing that takes away from his overall problems as a quarterback. So he is josh Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 hours ago, tfine said: They were basically a carbon copy of the 2009 Jets. 1 in Rushing 2nd in Defense. With a Qb that let them down. Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app 23/46 for almost 300 yards a TD and a 98.5 RTG rating isn't a QB that let you down that day; Now, the refs on the other hand..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Vikings are next when they lock up Their QB that took them to the championship game. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: If the Jags wanted to do it, they could still get Eli Manning in for (I believe) 16 million for this season, especially if the Giants draft a QB at two. Not saying it’s likely, but this Bortles deal is a pretty obvious hedge, similar to Glennon’s deal, and as much as the Giants are pretending they still love Manning, everyone knows he’s toast. my guess is they draft a qb so if bortles sucks they have a very cheap option in a year or two who probably isn't much worse or any worse than bortles and the cap money is gone. they knew they weren't going to get cousins and figured the continuity was better than bringing in someone like bridgewater or mccarron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Not surprising. Never really thought they were serious players in the Cousins sweepstakes. They have wayyyy too many priorities to keep that roster loaded for the future than to just dump Bortles after his best season. They stuck with him through all the bumps and bruises and are a better team for it. Besides, he ended up winning 2 playoff games, one in Pittsburgh where he was lights out and that's two more than Kirk Cousins has ever won. This was the right decisions for the Jags, IMO. Also lets you know a little more about Cousins if you ask me. Coughlin faced him twice a year for how long and thought so much about him they didnt even wait to resign Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Lupz27 said: You didn’t watch the game then dude, all the talk was about the wind that day in Jacksonville just ask out Jacksonville resident @JiF Yes, I was there. It was a frigid day for Jax. The winds were steady coming off the river at 25+ with definitely some 35-40 gusts. Both him and Taylor struggled passing the ball. The winds swirl in that stadium because of how the stadium is positions between the bend in the river. I think most QB's would have struggled through the ball that day and you have to give the Bills credit, they played a great defensive game too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, JiF said: Not surprising. Never really thought they were serious players in the Cousins sweepstakes. They have wayyyy too many priorities to keep that roster loaded for the future than to just dump Bortles after his best season. They stuck with him through all the bumps and bruises and are a better team for it. Besides, he ended up winning 2 playoff games, one in Pittsburgh where he was lights out and that's two more than Kirk Cousins has ever won. This was the right decisions for the Jags, IMO. Also lets you know a little more about Cousins if you ask me. Coughlin faced him twice a year for how long and thought so much about him they didnt even wait to resign Bortles Eh. They're a pretty complete, young team. I think signing a big a contract to Cousins would just put a short window on things and complicate keeping the team together in a couple years. I think it's actually smarter they resigned Bortles. They can look to hit on a QB in the draft and that would just extend the life of the team having him on a rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Eh. They're a pretty complete, young team. I think signing a big a contract to Cousins would just put a short window on things and complicate keeping the team together in a couple years. I think it's actually smarter they resigned Bortles. They can look to hit on a QB in the draft and that would just extend the life of the team having him on a rookie contract. You repeated exactly what I said in my post. lol That last statement was more of a p.s./also/maybe something to think about type of comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, JiF said: You repeated exactly what I said in my post. lol That last statement was more of a p.s./also/maybe something to think about type of comment. Touche. I was ready to debate more Cousins! Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Stark said: So he is josh Allen except Bortles had a 65.7% completion rate at UCF, 7,598 yards, 56 TD vs 19 Int > Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 11 hours ago, RedBeardedSavage said: Yea I don't see why everyone else is sh*tting on this. They get him for another year at 'not-quite franchise qb' money; if he plays well they have him at a discount, and if he doesn't, they can cut bait next year with no penalty. Bortles actually played well in the AFCC game too. I was surprised. They can still draft a quarterback this year if someone they like falls to one of their picks - this move gives them a lot of flexibility and doesn't force any long-term move. This is good for the Jaguars and good for those of us here that want the Jets to sign Cousins. He played well because the Eagles proved in the Super Bowl that the Patriots defense was HORRIBLE if you actually attacked their weaknesses. It's still a good contract for him because unlike the Jets the Jaguars have drafted well & have a bunch of very good players who will expect to get paid over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 13 hours ago, choon328 said: Signed Bortles to 3 yr $54 million extension They got him on the cheap if he pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 11 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Their hands were tied they owed him 17 million for next year after he got that surgery, so they gave him 2 years guaranteed for 2 reasons spread the money the way they want to, AND cover their ass in case he actually isn’t as bad as some think, and he becomes the QB that played like the best QB in the league weeks 14-16! He also didn’t panic in the playoffs, and didn’t kill them by turning the ball over, and gave his team a great chance to go to Super Bowl, but his Coach got to conservative to quickly, and ****ed it up. 100% agree with the bolded. pretty simple fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 12 hours ago, tfine said: I’d take Cousins over Bortles hands down Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app For nearly double the price ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 23/46 for almost 300 yards a TD and a 98.5 RTG rating isn't a QB that let you down that day; Now, the refs on the other hand.....Costly sack fumble in the Pittsburgh game. That made the difference. Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 For nearly double the price ? I think Cousins is a lot better. Plus I feel like we need a sure thing at QB. This fan base cannot wait for a top QB draft pick “pan out” plus the Jets aren’t exactly stellar at drafting and developing QB’s. Overpay for Cousins. Take the sure thing. So we can put this “we dont have a franchise QB” discussion to rest for at least 5 years or at least until he throws his first pick of the season..... Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, tfine said: I think Cousins is a lot better. Plus I feel like we need a sure thing at QB. This fan base cannot wait for a top QB draft pick “pan out” plus the Jets aren’t exactly stellar at drafting and developing QB’s. Overpay for Cousins. Take the sure thing. So we can put this “we dont have a franchise QB” discussion to rest for at least 5 years or at least until he throws his first pick of the season..... Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app The Jaguars are built like the 2009-10 Jets-strong defense, OL, run game. They don’t need or want a high priced QB. A team that put all of its money into a QB has to have that QB carry the team. That is the path for many teams, and to some extent those teams have no choice. But the Jaguars had the choice and they took it. Look for the Jaguars to draft a Qb at the bottom of the 1st round to try and knock Bortles out long term. Falk, Rudolph, etc. There are other good teams that will look to do the same in the 1st round. That should mean that the Jets should be able to get some good talent/starters in the second round. DON’T TRADE THOSE PICKS. But it also means that it is unlikely there are any decent QBs available when the Jets pick in the second round. If the Jets sign Cousins, I don’t think this is the year they use 4th round and above picks for a QB. Should build OL and other positions/depth. Use what we have as backup. Given their cap surplus, they may be able to afford a veteran backup, but that could put them at like $35mm for a QB, which is a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 jesus, Idzik is brilliant. Clears up a sh*t-ton of cash to re-sign Allen Robinson if they want, and can whack Bortles after next year with little to no pain. A true cap ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Augustiniak said: my guess is they draft a qb so if bortles sucks they have a very cheap option in a year or two who probably isn't much worse or any worse than bortles and the cap money is gone. they knew they weren't going to get cousins and figured the continuity was better than bringing in someone like bridgewater or mccarron. Bringing in someone like Bridgewater for $7 mil would be pretty slick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, tfine said: I think Cousins is a lot better. Plus I feel like we need a sure thing at QB. This fan base cannot wait for a top QB draft pick “pan out” plus the Jets aren’t exactly stellar at drafting and developing QB’s. Overpay for Cousins. Take the sure thing. So we can put this “we dont have a franchise QB” discussion to rest for at least 5 years or at least until he throws his first pick of the season..... Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app I like Kurt Cousins from when he was a junior at Michigan St. I've been mildly disappointed with what the Redskins have done since he became the starter. I expected better team results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The Jaguars are built like the 2009-10 Jets-strong defense, OL, run game. They don’t need or want a high priced QB. A team that put all of its money into a QB has to have that QB carry the team. That is the path for many teams, and to some extent those teams have no choice. But the Jaguars had the choice and they took it. Look for the Jaguars to draft a Qb at the bottom of the 1st round to try and knock Bortles out long term. Falk, Rudolph, etc. There are other good teams that will look to do the same in the 1st round. That should mean that the Jets should be able to get some good talent/starters in the second round. DON’T TRADE THOSE PICKS. But it also means that it is unlikely there are any decent QBs available when the Jets pick in the second round. If the Jets sign Cousins, I don’t think this is the year they use 4th round and above picks for a QB. Should build OL and other positions/depth. Use what we have as backup. Given their cap surplus, they may be able to afford a veteran backup, but that could put them at like $35mm for a QB, which is a lot of money.When you’ve been starved for a QB for so long like the Jets your going to overpay. Either with money or with draft picks to move up plain and simple. Sign Cousins, draft Barkley/OL 90 percent of the draft should be offense. Unless and edge rusher or Corner fall in our lap. Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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