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at one point Bowles had Muhammad Wilkerson, Damon Harrison and Sheldon Richardson, as well as first-round pick Leonard Williams-our defensive guru knows nothing about defense -Rex like him or hate him would have had those folks playing a lethal defense-instead bowles and mac could not figure out how to use them together or get them to peform

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You can't blame someone for things that happened before they came here - and Macs actually did a good job in drafting Leo (only Vic Beasley and David Johnson were arguably more valuable than Leo from the available players @ 6 in that draft) and eventually trading Sheldon (Kearse + 2nd rounder looks pretty solid value right now).  

The real problem was Mo Wilkerson.  Allowing him to slack and re-signing him were colossal blunders for this coach/GM combo.  

 

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48 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said:

Snacks is better then Mo. He actually gives a ....

I forget who it was, but on the Michael Kay Show they had one of the Giants on. I believe it was Landon Collins that was asked 'who can the Giants look to for a leadership voice on this team?' to which the response was 'Damon Harrison'. 

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Those were/are very talented players. The problem is none of them are pass rushers. In todays NFL you have to be able to get to the QB. You obviously need players like Snacks, Mo (When he was good), Richardson, and Williams but you need that pass rusher. It's a passing league. You look around at the top teams and they throw the ball. That can neutralize your space fillers who make their plays stopping the run.

This team has needed a pass rusher since the day we traded away John Abraham. That was over 10 years ago now and we have yet to find one. That's really bad in today's NFL. You look at some of those teams we had from 08-11 where we had really good D's and if we had a pass rusher we might have been able to win more even with a poor QB.

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Who are you fooling, none of them were ever lethal...they were all over blown and over rated because of the market they play in. Rex gets waaaaaaay too much credit for being a defensive "guru". I know there is a lot of hate for Bowles right now but Rex was a nosebleed when it counted and those overload blitzes NEVER worked. 

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1 hour ago, jetspenguin said:

Who are you fooling, none of them were ever lethal...they were all over blown and over rated because of the market they play in. Rex gets waaaaaaay too much credit for being a defensive "guru". I know there is a lot of hate for Bowles right now but Rex was a nosebleed when it counted and those overload blitzes NEVER worked. 

Agree but not the first two years. First two years were absolutely amazing. That 09’ defense did some historic things. 

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4 hours ago, kmnj said:

at one point Bowles had Muhammad Wilkerson, Damon Harrison and Sheldon Richardson, as well as first-round pick Leonard Williams-our defensive guru knows nothing about defense -Rex like him or hate him would have had those folks playing a lethal defense-instead bowles and mac could not figure out how to use them together or get them to peform

This definitely makes him worthy of a 2 year extension, no?

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15 hours ago, kmnj said:

at one point Bowles had Muhammad Wilkerson, Damon Harrison and Sheldon Richardson, as well as first-round pick Leonard Williams-our defensive guru knows nothing about defense -Rex like him or hate him would have had those folks playing a lethal defense-instead bowles and mac could not figure out how to use them together or get them to peform

Mac doesn't coach.. it is completely Bowles' issues as to why the defense sucks... Mac just gets him players, or doesn't get him good players. If that is how you want to include Mac, but to say Mac could not figure out how to use them is BS, he isn't the HC.

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In an offense minded league, the team has focused on defense during the 3 year Mac / Bowles regime, drafting 3 defensive players in the first round and we still have a bottom third of the league defense.  Please explain to me how either of these incompetent fools deserves to have their job still???

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