Were the scouting reports right? - Jordan Jenkins Edition

[Patriot Killa]

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Happy Monday, everyone! To continue our series reviewing the predraft scouting reports of past Jets draft picks, let’s move on to the team’s third selection of the 2016 draft, outside linebacker Jordan Jenkins. Previously we checked out the scouting reports of 2016 first-round pick Darron Lee (see it here) and second-round pick Christian Hackenberg (see it here), and the responses weren’t pretty. Has Jenkins been closer to what we expected?

From NFL.com, here is the list of Jenkins’ perceived strengths entering the draft.

Very aware of what is happening around him. Has a high football IQ and has understanding of down, distance and tendencies. Physical at the point of attack and sets a strong edge. Has desired thickness and play strength to hold up against NFL edge blockers and freakishly long arms and big hands for his size. Won’t sit on blocks and uses powerful hands to shed and get into the action. Has played standing and with a hand in the dirt and can handle himself in zone coverage. Team captain. Brings a pro-ready play demeanor to the field each Saturday.

What seems right?

• Wow. I think this absolutely spot-on. If I were listing the strengths of the Jenkins that has suited up for the Jets, this is almost exactly how I’d envision it looking. Smart. Physical. Tough. Gritty. Edge setter. All these terms that I’d use to describe Jenkins today were among the positive traits we were expecting when the Jets selected him.

What seems off?

• As previously mentioned, I can’t say that Jenkins has proved himself undeserving of any of the praise listed in this section.

Here is the list of his weaknesses.

Not a dynamic pass rusher. Has some knee stiffness in his rush and won’t out-athlete many NFL tackles. Upright play limits his speed-to-power effectiveness as a bull-rusher. Average upfield explosion off the snap. Did not impress against Alabama. Dealt with a nagging groin injury this season.

What seems right?

• Like the previous section, this is spot-on. For all of the intangibles Jenkins brings to the table, he’s not going to be stacking up pass-rushing numbers on the edge like Melvin Ingram or Joey Bosa. Pass-rushing is just not something he can do at a high level, and his incapability in this area has a pretty strong effect on the team’s overall pass-rush ability considering the amount of playing time on the edge he gets. Ideally, the Jets find a player to compliment him with dynamite pass-rushing ability.

What seems off?

• Injuries haven’t seemed to bother him too much. He’s played 30 of 32 possible games, including all 16 in 2017.

Jordan Jenkins seemed like a “safe” pick, the type of guy you expect to contribute solidly right away, but do not expect to hit a high ceiling down the line. So far, he has been exactly as advertised. You like having a player of his ilk on the field, with his toughness and discipline. The production he’s brought out of the gate has been a decent value for a third round pick. He just is not a good pass rusher, and that’s a hole in the defense on every snap he plays. Altogether, Jenkins is a solid role-playing starter, a good presence, and a fine third round selection, but you have some upgrading to do if he is your best player on the edge.

 

[hmhertz]

9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ganggreennation.com/platform/amp/2018/2/26/17051284/were-the-scouting-reports-right-jordan-jenkins-new-york-jets

Happy Monday, everyone! To continue our series reviewing the predraft scouting reports of past Jets draft picks, let’s move on to the team’s third selection of the 2016 draft, outside linebacker Jordan Jenkins. Previously we checked out the scouting reports of 2016 first-round pick Darron Lee (see it here) and second-round pick Christian Hackenberg (see it here), and the responses weren’t pretty. Has Jenkins been closer to what we expected?

From NFL.com, here is the list of Jenkins’ perceived strengths entering the draft.

Very aware of what is happening around him. Has a high football IQ and has understanding of down, distance and tendencies. Physical at the point of attack and sets a strong edge. Has desired thickness and play strength to hold up against NFL edge blockers and freakishly long arms and big hands for his size. Won’t sit on blocks and uses powerful hands to shed and get into the action. Has played standing and with a hand in the dirt and can handle himself in zone coverage. Team captain. Brings a pro-ready play demeanor to the field each Saturday.

What seems right?

• Wow. I think this absolutely spot-on. If I were listing the strengths of the Jenkins that has suited up for the Jets, this is almost exactly how I’d envision it looking. Smart. Physical. Tough. Gritty. Edge setter. All these terms that I’d use to describe Jenkins today were among the positive traits we were expecting when the Jets selected him.

What seems off?

• As previously mentioned, I can’t say that Jenkins has proved himself undeserving of any of the praise listed in this section.

Here is the list of his weaknesses.

Not a dynamic pass rusher. Has some knee stiffness in his rush and won’t out-athlete many NFL tackles. Upright play limits his speed-to-power effectiveness as a bull-rusher. Average upfield explosion off the snap. Did not impress against Alabama. Dealt with a nagging groin injury this season.

What seems right?

• Like the previous section, this is spot-on. For all of the intangibles Jenkins brings to the table, he’s not going to be stacking up pass-rushing numbers on the edge like Melvin Ingram or Joey Bosa. Pass-rushing is just not something he can do at a high level, and his incapability in this area has a pretty strong effect on the team’s overall pass-rush ability considering the amount of playing time on the edge he gets. Ideally, the Jets find a player to compliment him with dynamite pass-rushing ability.

What seems off?

• Injuries haven’t seemed to bother him too much. He’s played 30 of 32 possible games, including all 16 in 2017.

Jordan Jenkins seemed like a “safe” pick, the type of guy you expect to contribute solidly right away, but do not expect to hit a high ceiling down the line. So far, he has been exactly as advertised. You like having a player of his ilk on the field, with his toughness and discipline. The production he’s brought out of the gate has been a decent value for a third round pick. He just is not a good pass rusher, and that’s a hole in the defense on every snap he plays. Altogether, Jenkins is a solid role-playing starter, a good presence, and a fine third round selection, but you have some upgrading to do if he is your best player on the edge.

 

Moves like he's carrying three days sh*t in his pants

[Beerfish]

He is good at 'setting the edge'

[Patriot Killa]

Calvin Pace type player imo. Now can he play at the level Pace did for a few years there? I dunno .. that is a entirely different story.

[JiFtheOracle]

1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

Calvin Pace type player imo. Now can he play at the level Pace did for a few years there? I dunno .. that is a entirely different story.

Pace was a little more versatile and offered more in the pass rush.  Jenkins is the dirty work guy.  Every team needs JAGs like him.  I'm pretty sure he is what he is and you've seen his ceiling. 

[Patriot Killa]

6 minutes ago, JiF said:

Pace was a little more versatile and offered more in the pass rush.  Jenkins is the dirty work guy.  Every team needs JAGs like him.  I'm pretty sure he is what he is and you've seen his ceiling. 

Wouldn’t argue with that. Might get a little bit better at his job with a few more years and will serve as a good, good role player, but probably won’t have much more of an impact than that. 

[Lith]

8 minutes ago, JiF said:

Pace was a little more versatile and offered more in the pass rush.  Jenkins is the dirty work guy.  Every team needs JAGs like him.  I'm pretty sure he is what he is and you've seen his ceiling. 

I agree.  Pace was a more complete player.  Jenkins is exactly what he was at UGA.  Hard-nosed, tough, loves that game, but limited athletically.  Solid player.  You can win with him, but not because of him.

[David Harris]

He is less athletic than Calvin Pace but that athleticism helped Pace not at all in the pass rush.  His lone double digit sack season was an aberration and due completely to beating RB's, TE's or being a free runner.

Jenkins and Pace are ok complementary players.  We need stars. We need alphas.  If we get Cousins then Bradley Chubb is my #1 target at 6.

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, David Harris said:

He is less athletic than Calvin Pace but that athleticism helped Pace not at all in the pass rush.  His lone double digit sack season was an aberration and due completely to beating RB's, TE's or being a free runner.

Jenkins and Pace are ok complementary players.  We need stars. We need alphas.  If we get Cousins then Bradley Chubb is my #1 target at 6.

Chubb strikes me as a player meant to play on the inside due to his 4.6 speed. If we want a difference maker that can hit the QB, Trumaine Edmunds is the guy. He can explosively bend the corner.

[rangerous]

12 minutes ago, David Harris said:

He is less athletic than Calvin Pace but that athleticism helped Pace not at all in the pass rush.  His lone double digit sack season was an aberration and due completely to beating RB's, TE's or being a free runner.

Jenkins and Pace are ok complementary players.  We need stars. We need alphas.  If we get Cousins then Bradley Chubb is my #1 target at 6.

a little help from his peds helped too.

[BCJet]

I think Pace benefited from playing with a better group then Jenkins has in his first 2 years.   I would like to see someone on our line other then Leo do virtually anything and see how that affects the other guys like Jenkins getting more 1-1 opportunities. 

I also have no idea what Bowles and Rogers do schematically as we dont seem to blitz as much as he did in Arizona yet we have a 3-4 team that needs to blitz in order to generate pressure

[RutgersJetFan]

This series is awesome. I'm becoming a fan of how mostly all of the scouting reports on his picks have been: "Meh, he's OK." And then the hindsight evaluations are basically "Yep, he's OK, I guess."

[Patriot Killa]

4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

This series is awesome. I'm becoming a fan of how mostly all of the scouting reports on his picks have been: "Meh, he's OK." And then the hindsight evaluations are basically "Yep, he's OK, I guess."

Maccagnan the “Safe Picker, Gravedigger.”

[long suffering jets fan]

7 hours ago, JiF said:

Pace was a little more versatile and offered more in the pass rush.  Jenkins is the dirty work guy.  Every team needs JAGs like him.  I'm pretty sure he is what he is and you've seen his ceiling. 

I think next year will be his ceiling.  We saw some flashes last year, but I think he's got more coming.  He'll be a solid Jet for years and if the Defense improves he'll improve as well.

[Thai Jet]

I was quite happy when the Jets drafted him. That being said I wish he had a little better pass rush ability since he's such a fierce competitor . It is what it is I guess.