Josh Allen will be a Jet if Cousins isn't

[j4jets]

I would like to go on record and say that Mac will be looking to swing for the fences if he fails to bring in Cousins. I believe Allen has immense potential (don't they all?). He won't be the best QB on the board at #6, however. Not NFL ready. Requires at-least one redshirt year. Won't have a good start to his career as he matures later on. Makes him a perfect target for Macc. 

[Patriot Killa]

[Patriot Killa]

[Patriot Killa]

[Spoot-Face]

[jgb]

From the limited data we have it does appear that Macc loves measureables.

[Jetscreen]

All I want to know is.....Is Mac capable of selecting Franchise QB's? He's had two opportunities now and both of them are bums. I wonder if they could play in the CFL? This is all or nothing for Mac. He'd better get the Jets a FQB this off season. NOW. Or he will get fired.

[dbatesman]

Probably, yeah.

[NoBowles]

7 minutes ago, Jetscreen said:

All I want to know is.....Is Mac capable of selecting Franchise QB's? He's had two opportunities now and both of them are bums. I wonder if they could play in the CFL? This is all or nothing for Mac. He'd better get the Jets a FQB this off season. NOW. Or he will get fired.

Is Bowles able or willing to develop one?

he just fired his OC for passing  too much. That should be a good sell to a rookie QB.

hey, we drafted you, and all you have To is handoff, and on 3rd and long will ask you to throw a 3 yard hot pass. Got it?

both suck and it’s a joke they are still employed 

[Jetscreen]

4 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

Is Bowles able or willing to develop one?

he just fired his OC for passing  too much. That should be a good sell to a rookie QB.

hey, we drafted you, and all you have To is handoff, and on 3rd and long will ask you to throw a 3 yard hot pass. Got it?

both suck and it’s a joke they are still employed 

Very true. Now we hear Bowles want to go to a ground and pound type approach? While I don't have a problem with that, it provides for a dominating OL that will offer great protection and a longer amount of time for a young QB to scan the field, what does this say about Bowles willingness to use the passing game? He just doesn't seem to have an imagination. He's no architect, that's for sure.

[bla bla bla]

I know everyone loves ripping on Allen, he's number 4 on my list, but if Kiper and McShay like him so much then I'm obviously missing something. From the way he is talked about I have a gut feeling he'll be one of the top 2 QBs taken. As long as its one of the top 4 idrc, sell me long term hope, that's all I ask.

[Pcola]

We have taken 8 flawed QBs in the last 11 drafts.  Since we’ve been so successful at developing flawed QBs in the past, it’s going to be super awesome to take Allen at 6 over potential 5 - 10 year starters at basically every other position.

This regime has already wasted a 2nd and 4th round picks on flawed QBs that after multiple seasons, the only thing Petty and Hack have proven is that they are not even back ups in the league.  At least that will assure a final go for both Mac and Bowles.  

[Grandy]

I strongly believe Allen is gone by 6. I have a gut feeling either Rosen or Darnold is wearing Green & White next season. I know it's bold, but I've dreamed about that happening, quite literally. Let's just hope my instincts are correct.

[sourceworx]

14 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

I know everyone loves ripping on Allen, he's number 4 on my list, but if Kiper and McShay like him so much then I'm obviously missing something. From the way he is talked about I have a gut feeling he'll be one of the top 2 QBs taken. As long as its one of the top 4 idrc, sell me long term hope, that's all I ask.

Louis Riddick compared him to Dan Marino.

[jetspenguin]

[ChuckkieB]

Allen is fourth on my list behind Darnold, Rosen, and Mayfield, but as long as the Jets actually draft a QB at #6 or earlier via a trade, I will be ecstatic because the most important position of the field will finally be addressed.  I just hope whoever we get is the right fit and becomes a franchise QB.  Easier said than done, and the track record of developing QB's with this franchise is poor, so I'll  take a few shots of vodka and hope for the best.

[The Crusher]

6 hours ago, j4jets said:

I would like to go on record and say that Mac will be looking to swing for the fences if he fails to bring in Cousins. I believe Allen has immense potential (don't they all?). He won't be the best QB on the board at #6, however. Not NFL ready. Requires at-least one redshirt year. Won't have a good start to his career as he matures later on. Makes him a perfect target for Macc. 

Hope not, yet the poll choices are pretty sweet. You get rep for that not the content. 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Jetscreen said:

All I want to know is.....Is Mac capable of selecting Franchise QB's? He's had two opportunities now and both of them are bums. I wonder if they could play in the CFL? This is all or nothing for Mac. He'd better get the Jets a FQB this off season. NOW. Or he will get fired.

No. He absolutely is not. Unless somebody outside the organizations slips him the answer he will fail the test just like before . 

[The Crusher]

57 minutes ago, Grandy said:

I strongly believe Allen is gone by 6. I have a gut feeling either Rosen or Darnold is wearing Green & White next season. I know it's bold, but I've dreamed about that happening, quite literally. Let's just hope my instincts are correct.

Bold shmold, you are a great man of vision. Thank you. 

[Jetscreen]

1 minute ago, The Crusher said:

No. He absolutely is not. Unless somebody outside the organizations slips him the answer he will fail the test just like before . 

Until Mac proves otherwise, you, me, and seemingly everyone else in Jet land will believe he's a failure. Honestly, after 3 years you'd certainly think he would have gotten this straight. If he can't get it right in THIS draft? Then the gavel has fallen......

[The Crusher]

34 minutes ago, Jetscreen said:

Until Mac proves otherwise, you, me, and seemingly everyone else in Jet land will believe he's a failure. Honestly, after 3 years you'd certainly think he would have gotten this straight. If he can't get it right in THIS draft? Then the gavel has fallen......

I would certainly hope so . Yet are team is ran by the younger brother to the older brother who knew nothing. 

[Stark]

JOSH ALLEN = HOT GARBAGE

Keep this guy away from the JETS. I don't want to hear about potential, we don't have a coach that gets, said, potential out of any player.  

[Stark]

1 hour ago, sourceworx said:

Louis Riddick compared him to Dan Marino.

Riddick must have Allen confused with Rosen maybe... i mean they both have the same first name, I could see that being the error he made.... LOL

 

ALLEN sucks.. and will suck in the NFL. 

[prime21]

If no Cousins and Allen is the only one available of "the four" then absolutely take him.    I would prefer Jackson over Allen but for he is a higher risk.  For him I would rather trade down and get him. 

[#27TheDominator]

2 minutes ago, prime21 said:

If no Cousins and Allen is the only one available of "the four" then absolutely take him.    I would prefer Jackson over Allen but for he is a higher risk.  For him I would rather trade down and get him. 

Trading down for a QB is not a thing.

[Stark]

5 minutes ago, prime21 said:

If no Cousins and Allen is the only one available of "the four" then absolutely take him.    I would prefer Jackson over Allen but for he is a higher risk.  For him I would rather trade down and get him. 

Allen is a bigger risk than Jackson IMO... 

[HawkeyeJet]

I love me some message boards, but it might be the longest two months in message board history moving forward.  

[prime21]

2 minutes ago, Stark said:

Allen is a bigger risk than Jackson IMO... 

I would also like to have Jackson to use in Madden 19 

[Stark]

Just now, prime21 said:

I would also like to have Jackson to use in Madden 19 

Yeah, Jackson will be better in Madden than Allen too. so it only makes sense. 

[Pcola]

2 hours ago, bla bla bla said:

I know everyone loves ripping on Allen, he's number 4 on my list, but if Kiper and McShay like him so much then I'm obviously missing something. From the way he is talked about I have a gut feeling he'll be one of the top 2 QBs taken. As long as its one of the top 4 idrc, sell me long term hope, that's all I ask.

Mayock had Kizer as his #1 QB last year.  These guys don’t know sh!t about QB prospects.  They are here to drive stories and when one isn’t there, they create it.

This year we have an anomaly.  There are half a dozen teams with no QBs so far for next year.  They are playing the ratings game by inventing Josh Allen as a legit prospect.  

Look, if we take him and he turns out great, I will be the first one in here admitting that I was 100% wrong.

But when you have Brian Billick say repeatedly that the biggest mistake of his career was blaming Kyle Boller’s poor stats to the weak cast around him and not because he wasn’t a good QB, history is about to repeat itself.  We are going to end up with another QB that won’t be able to see the field until both GM and HC are fired and they clean house and start our 3rd or 4th “rebuild” this decade.

[bla bla bla]

Just now, Pcola said:

Mayock had Kizer as his #1 QB last year.  These guys don’t know sh!t about QB prospects.  They are here to drive stories and when one isn’t there, they create it.

This year we have an anomaly.  There are half a dozen teams with no QBs so far for next year.  They are playing the ratings game by inventing Josh Allen as a legit prospect.  

Look, if we take him and he turns out great, I will be the first one in here admitting that I was 100% wrong.

But when you have Brian Billick say repeatedly that the biggest mistake of his career was blaming Kyle Boller’s poor stats to the weak cast around him and not because he wasn’t a good QB, history is about to repeat itself.  We are going to end up with another QB that won’t be able to see the field until both GM and HC are fired and they clean house and start our 3rd or 4th “rebuild” this decade.

Notice how I didn't say Mayock.

You are absolutely right about Allen, and all draft prospects for that matter, this is why Cousins value is going to be so astronomically high.

[nycdan]

Can I get a ruling on the relative value between buttfumble and puke?  For a friend...

Personally, I understand all of those who view Allen as a huge risk, but I'd still rather take him than any defensive player this year.  Even if he has a 10% chance to be very good, that's 10% higher than we have right now and drafting a DB or DL isn't going to move that needle.

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[Augustiniak]

this is the guy mccags can't take.  this guy would cost him his job.  if they don't get cousins and darnold/rosen/mayfield are all gone, i imagine this would constitute the plan c that bowles alluded to.

[Greensleeves]

2 hours ago, Pcola said:

We have taken 8 flawed QBs in the last 11 drafts.  Since we’ve been so successful at developing flawed QBs in the past, it’s going to be super awesome to take Allen at 6 over potential 5 - 10 year starters at basically every other position.

This regime has already wasted a 2nd and 4th round picks on flawed QBs that after multiple seasons, the only thing Petty and Hack have proven is that they are not even back ups in the league.  At least that will assure a final go for both Mac and Bowles.  

You're post actually proves why we need to go QB in first round - they have a much better chance at success than taking one after the first round and it's not even close. QBs taken after the first round don't pan out for all of the teams in the NFL, not just the Jets. If you have a starting QB taken in the second round and beyond that is the outlier. Very small chance that you find a FQB after the first round.