Darkwa, Williams? WE'RE LOSERS

[Paradis]

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

[Sarge4Tide]

[paulyjet]

Lol

[BrickTamland]

Im hoping:

Its because eli mcguire isnt good. So right now we have 1contracted year of bilal and thats it.

[Patriot Killa]

Who is Damian Williams lol?

[JoJoTownsell1]

7 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

I hope it's not serious. We should be going into the season with Powell and McGuire and at least one high draft pick at RB. 

Only reason I can justify signing darkwa is for cheap depth and smokescreen that will make other teams think we're not going for a RB. 

[MDL_JET]

Here. Is that any better? 

 

 

 

[jetsons]

2 minutes ago, MDL_JET said:

Here. Is that any better? 

 

 

 

I don't want him at all... there are others out there who are better & wouldn't cost as much draft pick wise.

[Paradis]

8 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

I hope it's not serious. We should be going into the season with Powell and McGuire and at least one high draft pick at RB. 

Only reason I can justify signing darkwa is for cheap depth and smokescreen that will make other teams think we're not going for a RB. 

 

Let's say for argument's sake that the JETS have settled on addressing RB via FA... OK... So Orleans godamn Darkwa? 

 

[HessStation]

The only thing anybody should care about this year is which QB they draft

[derp]

You're not crazy at all. That's definitely a position I would want to use the draft to improve and the Jets have done an awful job of that. So many big time talents come out of the second and third round. Dudes who contribute in the passing game particularly have carved out nice careers. The Jets draft dudes in the 4th-6th...or Shonn Greene who can't catch in the 3rd.

[Dinamite]

13 minutes ago, Paradis said:

 

Let's say for argument's sake that the JETS have settled on addressing RB via FA... OK... So Orleans godamn Darkwa? 

 

I think they may sign a small time ever like Darka to be covered but then still draft someone.   That way you can still cut/trade a Darka or Powell in training camp.

 

That being said, this regime has shown a propensity for older, not so good backs in general (Ridley, forte, guy from New Orleans who broke his leg, guy from Rams we traded for in Macc's first draft...)

[JetFaninMI]

Can we not lose our sh*t until something actually happens? At this time of year, if someone even remotely connected with the Jets front office even looks in a guys direction they will say the Jets have interest in them just to get a reaction. Relax until something actually happens.

[SouthernJet]

42 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

I think Jets have a RB they like in 2nd Rd (USC guy). Also Jeremy Hill would be cheap and pair w/Powell nicely while rookie gets playbook down.

[T0mShane]

51 minutes ago, Paradis said:

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

Because they have to spend money and only fringe players are willing to sacrifice their careers to play here for a little extra scratch. 

[JoJoTownsell1]

35 minutes ago, Paradis said:

 

Let's say for argument's sake that the JETS have settled on addressing RB via FA... OK... So Orleans godamn Darkwa? 

 

Obviously that would be a disaster

[Patriot Killa]

Pop a Xanax and chill out. It’s March 1st and we are just poking around. 

[Patriot Killa]

25 minutes ago, SouthernJet said:

I think Jets have a RB they like in 2nd Rd (USC guy). Also Jeremy Hill would be cheap and pair w/Powell nicely while rookie gets playbook down.

They won’t carry McGuire/Powell/Hill/Rookie.

They may just be looking around. Or they could be looking to get a Vet and cut Powell.

[#27TheDominator]

The first rule of BAP drafting is not having any gaping holes on your team on draft day. That keeps you from making need picks. Darkwa is pretty crappy, but he seems like he belongs in the league, even if it is as roster filler. Having him means they don't have to shoehorn some RB in there by the 3rd round if they don't have anybody else. I don't have a huge problem with it at RB. I would rather go cheap at RB than other positions.

1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said:

Who is Damian Williams lol?

I think it is Damien.  Pass catching change of pace back in Miami, out of Oklahoma.  Still young and has shown some flashes.

34 minutes ago, Dinamite said:

I think they may sign a small time ever like Darka to be covered but then still draft someone.   That way you can still cut/trade a Darka or Powell in training camp.

 

That being said, this regime has shown a propensity for older, not so good backs in general (Ridley, forte, guy from New Orleans who broke his leg, guy from Rams we traded for in Macc's first draft...)

Those guys were basically free, which I would hope would be the case with Darkwa and Williams.

[Patriot Killa]

3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

The first rule of BAP drafting is not having any gaping holes on your team on draft day. That keeps you from making need picks. Darkwa is pretty crappy, but he seems like he belongs in the league, even if it is as roster filler. Having him means they don't have to shoehorn some RB in there by the 3rd round if they don't have anybody else. I don't have a huge problem with it at RB. I would rather go cheap at RB than other positions.

I think it is Damien.  Pass catching change of pace back in Miami, out of Oklahoma.  Still young and has shown some flashes.

Those guys were basically free, which I would hope would be the case with Darkwa and Williams.

I could dig a change of pace scat back...but I kinda thought that’s what we were developing McGuire for.

[#27TheDominator]

6 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

I could dig a change of pace scat back...but I kinda thought that’s what we were developing McGuire for.

If they are sitting on their hands to develop McGuire they are stupider than I thought.  Same with Williams.  Neither should preclude them trying to improve.  Mostly because you can always improve at every position and have to have a next man up in case of injury, but also because they both suck.

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, Paradis said:

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

Slow plodding clock eaters - Todd Bowles special baby!!! 

[SouthernJet]

15 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

They won’t carry McGuire/Powell/Hill/Rookie.

They may just be looking around. Or they could be looking to get a Vet and cut Powell.

agree, but Powell lstays IMHO unless they get lucky and get Barkley. I fthey get USC RB who they crave, its Powell, Rook and McGuire unless beaten out by a FA pickup or draft/UDFA guy. USC guy has same skillset McGuire does.

[rangerous]

everyone needs to calm down.  if the jets do institute a good zone blocking scheme they could bring forte out of retirement and still have a good run game.

[SouthernJet]

1 minute ago, rangerous said:

everyone needs to calm down.  if the jets do institute a good zone blocking scheme they could bring forte out of retirement and still have a good run game.

Off Line most important part of a team. Yi uare right. GFo rmany years Broncos had 3 all Pros on OL and whenever a 'star' went down, they put 'whoever' in and they still got 1000 yards. Happened like 3 years in a row.

You dont need Jim Brown when you have a solid OffLine and even better if they have 2 years together under their belt 

Off Line thats good will help Offense and Defense as Defense rest while Off on field longer and field position is better for Defense to start at. Basically it allows yo uto shrink the field as game goe son like old Parcells Giants did. Won by FGs in 17-10, 21-14 etc etc type games that you never really felt Giants were at risk of losing LOL

[Paradis]

24 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Pop a Xanax and chill out. It’s March 1st and we are just poking around. 

But why them.

22 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

The first rule of BAP drafting is not having any gaping holes on your team on draft day. That keeps you from making need picks. Darkwa is pretty crappy, but he seems like he belongs in the league, even if it is as roster filler. Having him means they don't have to shoehorn some RB in there by the 3rd round if they don't have anybody else. I don't have a huge problem with it at RB. I would rather go cheap at RB than other positions.

I think it is Damien.  Pass catching change of pace back in Miami, out of Oklahoma.  Still young and has shown some flashes.

Those guys were basically free, which I would hope would be the case with Darkwa and Williams.

Sorry, Damian was the USC/Titan receiver. 

Fair enough - I get it, Williams in and of himself is a decent change of pace back...

But why... why are we not hearing about how RoJo is the right fit. That Bowles can't wait to meet Barkley. Why the fck do seem to always end up be associated with interchangeable depth signings.... you feel me bro?! 

[Beerfish]

What is Ridley up to these days?  We can pad the roster and bowles likes him.

[UnitedWhofans]

2 hours ago, Paradis said:

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

Did you see the list of RB prospects we are meeting at the combine?

[Smashmouth]

57 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

The first rule of BAP drafting is not having any gaping holes on your team on draft day. That keeps you from making need picks. Darkwa is pretty crappy, but he seems like he belongs in the league, even if it is as roster filler. Having him means they don't have to shoehorn some RB in there by the 3rd round if they don't have anybody else. I don't have a huge problem with it at RB. I would rather go cheap at RB than other positions.

I think it is Damien.  Pass catching change of pace back in Miami, out of Oklahoma.  Still young and has shown some flashes.

Those guys were basically free, which I would hope would be the case with Darkwa and Williams.

I'm not a fan of persuing Darkwa I would much rather have one of the young guys in the draft but come on the guy is not crappy in 11 games he had 751 yards 5 TD's and 4.4 yards per carry as I read in another thread and also playing behind a crappy OL on a team that gave up. So how does that translate into crappy ?

Orleans Darkwa stats

Career stats

Year	Team	ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	REC	YDS	AVG	TD
2017	Giants	171	751	4.4	5	19	116	6.1	0
2016	Giants	30	111	3.7	2	2	12	6.0	0
Career		246	1,038	4.2	9	29	207	7.1	0

 

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[sourceworx]

If we're going to sign a back in free agency, I'd much rather we sign Isaiah Crowell.

[Smashmouth]

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Orleans Darkwa has been much better than most New York Giants and NFL fans realize since taking over as the team's starting running back in Week 5.

For starters, Darkwa leads the NFL in yards after contact per carry since Week 5, according to Pro Football Focus' stats. In other words, Darkwa has been the most difficult running back to bring down on first contact since he took over the lead role. Darkwa is also averaging an insane 5.1 yards per carry, with 415 rushing yards on 81 carries. Darkwa continues to make big plays in the running game as well -- he has racked up eight rushing attempts of at least 20 yards on the season.

Darkwa is also one of the NFL's leading rushers in the fewest negative rushes percentage on at least 75 carries. In other words, Darkwa almost always falls forward for positive yardage.

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League leaders in least negative rushes, minimum 75 attempts (via @ESPNStatsInfo)

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Darkwa's production has not gone unnoticed by Giants offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan.

[Lith]

2 hours ago, Paradis said:

 

Let's say for argument's sake that the JETS have settled on addressing RB via FA... OK... So Orleans godamn Darkwa? 

 

It also sounds like we are meeting with a bunch of top RB prospects at the combine. I have seen reports that we are meeting with Chubb, Guice, Michel, Johnson, Williams and even the guy you were talking up the other day, Chase Edmunds.

[#27TheDominator]

JAG.  

I don't look at that as much of an insult as most.  To me a JAG is a replacement level player, just another guy.  The kind of guy you don't give a big contract, but he doesn't kill you if he's on the field.  Darkwa's stats don't scream anything more to me.  His 4.4 ypc is nothing great and the advanced stats above are even stranger.  Least percentage of negative runs?  In November?  Who cares?  Most yards after contact since week 5?  On November 15?  How many weeks is that?  He's a guy you can play without too much fear, but the Giants have been looking to upgrade. 

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, Paradis said:

I'm gonna count to 5 and remind myself - "tis the season..."

Can someone tell me why i'm seeing our name attached to interest in Orleans Darkwa and Damian Williams? Is this a case of self-fulfilling prophecy of mediocrity?

Why why why why do we continue to associate ourselves and pursue such irrelevant talent, like it's a fcking solution. Need a RB? F*CK the Draft, what second grade banana peels can we acquire on the market. 

WTF. Tell me i'm crazy.

And some people seriously believed Mac would pursue Lev Bell.  LOL

[Smashmouth]

5 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

JAG.  

I don't look at that as much of an insult as most.  To me a JAG is a replacement level player, just another guy.  The kind of guy you don't give a big contract, but he doesn't kill you if he's on the field.  Darkwa's stats don't scream anything more to me.  His 4.4 ypc is nothing great and the advanced stats above are even stranger.  Least percentage of negative runs?  In November?  Who cares?  Most yards after contact since week 5?  On November 15?  How many weeks is that?  He's a guy you can play without too much fear, but the Giants have been looking to upgrade. 

yeah they are going for Barkley which makes this guy expendable obviously but hes not crap. I would love one of the young RB's coming out .

How exactly is 4.4 nothing great > How many rb's have 4.4 YPC or better  the answer is 9 ? Leveon Bell 4.1 Ezekeil Elliot 4.0 

This kid could possibly just be filling a spot in a stable of RB's including a high draft pick this season.