Patriot Killa Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mogglez said: I was kinda surprised to see that too, until I went to Twitter and saw almost instantly that the list they have is incomplete. Doesn't shock me considering Walter Football is one of the worst websites on the face of the planet. That gives me relief. I didn’t see Rosen or really much of anyone worth drafting and it nearly broke me in two at the thought of not even interviewing the draft’s best QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Assuming Hogan left on good terms #Jets should have a direct line to Indy for 3 https://t.co/lwC2E5y9c6 — Connor Rogers (@ConnorJRogers) March 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: With Minnesota being the likely landing spot for Cousins, being aggressive in FA should be the PLAN A. Fill as many holes and depth as possible, because you should be trading a boatload of picks to trade up for our QB. Its that simple. It still kills me though because I don’t think any QB this class will be on a level of Goff/Went/Watson/Mahomes will be. An extra 3rd?! Precluded us from one of the first two. One of next two could have been had without giving up a thing. Is this real? An extra third? Link please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: I thought we were in good shape to trade with the Colts prior to hearing this, this only solidifies that notion for me. If offers between the Broncos and Jets are close we may get the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 14 hours ago, bla bla bla said: I don't think the Colts want to trade the 3rd pick yet unless we blew the doors off them with an offer. It makes more sense for them to wait because if Darnold or Rosen is there that pick would be incredibly more valuable IMO. I think if they want Barkley they'll wait - if he's there they'll take him, if not then they'll trade. Having a weapon like that for Luck would be a great move for them. Although they have a ton of holes. I think if Barkley isn't their man then they may be willing to make the trade now - but honestly, I don't see why they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: I think if they want Barkley they'll wait - if he's there they'll take him, if not then they'll trade. Having a weapon like that for Luck would be a great move for them. Although they have a ton of holes. I think if Barkley isn't their man then they may be willing to make the trade now - but honestly, I don't see why they would. Yea they really don't have much of a benefit to move the pick before draft day. Only reason might be that there could be less competition if teams sign FA QBs but aI don't think that will be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Sully80 said: Trade up is the best option for us if we lose out on Cousins, go get your guy trade the farm. You think Philly regrets trading up for Wentz? Plus go look at our drafts over the past 10 years picks are over valued I'd rather quality than quantity I agree. The prospect of trading up doesnt scare me. Mac handling this situation does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, Adoni Beast said: I agree. The prospect of trading up doesnt scare me. Mac handling this situation does. Yea my fear is in Mac pulling the trigger on a trade up. My biggest fear is a team like Miami or Buffalo jumping up to 3-5 to take a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Yea my fear is in Mac pulling the trigger on a trade up. My biggest fear is a team like Miami or Buffalo jumping up to 3-5 to take a QB. If the Colts want an elite player they cant move all the way down to to the 20s, however they may not care about that considering this draft doesnt have an elite LT or edge rusher that they would be passing up, aside from Chubb. I wonder if we could put someone like Carpenter (preferably) or even winters into a trade up to help the colts fix their offensive line. Carpenter isnt a great fit in a zone scheme, but hes a good pass blocker and could step right in as a veteran to help the line. According to the chart it would be at least one of our second rounders + an additional pick. The bears paid 3rd and 4th round picks in the 2017 draft along with a 2018 3rd round pick to move one spot. Going from 3 to 6 is a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Even as a placeholder for a first round QB, Bradford is a terrible choice because he can't stay on the field. What the f**k is wrong with this franchise???? To draft Bradford and then not even take a QB in round 1 would constitute a dereliction of duty on MAc's part and should get him fired on the spot!!! I'm getting my mind crushing Jets pre-draft migraine a little early this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: That's Dr. RutgersJetFan to you pal. Ms. Rutgers if you're nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Philc1 said: Too small to play in a 3-4 and sucks in coverage Darron Lee = Bust Just because he actually plays unlike most of Mac’s other picks doesn’t make him good You're being too harsh. He's hardly a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 9:41 AM, Adoni Beast said: Definitely agree. There’s def a lot of luck with the draft. But Mac has had a real chance to draft 4 QB’s who could all be the face of the league once Brady retires. He has to get it right, as Woody even stated one of the goals of new gm in 2015 was to find a franchise QB. I've said it earlier this is a crucial off season for the Jets. It will shape the next 4-5 year future for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: You're being too harsh. He's hardly a bust. Dont listen to him. He's a troll who brings nothing of substance to the table. Others have the negative attitude but they bring something with it. He doesn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 8 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: What’s this all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Yea my fear is in Mac pulling the trigger on a trade up. My biggest fear is a team like Miami or Buffalo jumping up to 3-5 to take a QB. Very possible scenario, Miami tried to trade up to 8. Gase wants his own QB and Tannehill has a bum knee. If Mac is asleep at the wheel Trader Mike will blow right by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: You're being too harsh. He's hardly a bust. 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Dont listen to him. He's a troll who brings nothing of substance to the table. Others have the negative attitude but they bring something with it. He doesn't To be fair, Lee is hardly "not a bust" either. He has had a decidedly Quinton Coples-esque career trajectory so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 18 hours ago, Philc1 said: Cam Robinson is already a franchise Left Tackle for the jags. Marcus Maye is the same exact player in round 2 the more I think about the Adams pick the more I want to break something Cam Robinson was a 16 game starter and underrated but the season didn't exactly end on a high note for that dude. He's not great in pass pro and he probably never will be. He's a load in the run game. The anti-Brick but 10 years later when passing way more important. Garrett Bolles and Ryan Ramcyzk made the all rookie teams and at first I thought that was bad reporting. But watch Robinson in the playoffs he's a flawed player and not sure the term franchise can be applied. Still real young yet and a good draft pick to be sure. Marcus Maye is the coverage safety. Adams (yet?) can't cover but he does everything else, including set the tone for the locker room The Mac trend of bringing in non-Bama SEC types is smart. These guys know what it's like to expect to win even when everyone else says you're going to lose. It's the Honey Badger attitude (and I hope they sign him too, cause why not?). This is coming from a guy who was screaming Mahomes/Watson last April. And still wants any QB at 6. Baker Mayfield is the Jamal Adams for the offense by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: To be fair, Lee is hardly "not a bust" either. He has had a decidedly Quinton Coples-esque career trajectory so far. in lee's 2nd year he had 3 sacks and was 2nd on the team in tackles. he's way better than coples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: You're being too harsh. He's hardly a bust. maybe some team out there would want him in a trade. He sucks so far. Bad 1st round pick yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: in lee's 2nd year he had 3 sacks and was 2nd on the team in tackles. he's way better than coples. BELIEVE! Through his first two years Coples had 10 sacks. Through his first three years 16.5. Lee has 4. Demario Davis and David Harris both compared favorably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: BELIEVE! Through his first two years Coples had 10 sacks. Through his first three years 16.5. Lee has 4. Demario Davis and David Harris both compared favorably. in 5 seasons coples had 111 tackles combined. last year lee had 94 in 15 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: BELIEVE! Through his first two years Coples had 10 sacks. Through his first three years 16.5. Lee has 4. Demario Davis and David Harris both compared favorably. Apples to oranges, an inside linebacker versus an OLB whose job it is to rush passers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: in 5 seasons coples had 111 tackles combined. last year lee had 94 in 15 games ...and Demario Davis had 135 and 5 sacks and he was borderline for a 3rd rounder. Believe what you want, but if you think Lee has established himself as a first round value, I think you are in the minority. Do you think he is going to be a no-brainer for a $10M 5th year option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: ...and Demario Davis had 135 and 5 sacks and he was borderline for a 3rd rounder. Believe what you want, but if you think Lee has established himself as a first round value, I think you are in the minority. Do you think he is going to be a no-brainer for a $10M 5th year option? he should be blitzing more. he had 3 sacks in very limited opportunities. and his tackles are a function of being the only lb who can hope to cover anyone coming out of the backfield with zero pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: in lee's 2nd year he had 3 sacks and was 2nd on the team in tackles. he's way better than coples. Yes and hardly a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I miss the good ole days on JI when Pauline was screaming at everyone about how good Kyle Wilson was going to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 If the Colts want an elite player they cant move all the way down to to the 20s, however they may not care about that considering this draft doesnt have an elite LT or edge rusher that they would be passing up, aside from Chubb. I wonder if we could put someone like Carpenter (preferably) or even winters into a trade up to help the colts fix their offensive line. Carpenter isnt a great fit in a zone scheme, but hes a good pass blocker and could step right in as a veteran to help the line. According to the chart it would be at least one of our second rounders + an additional pick. The bears paid 3rd and 4th round picks in the 2017 draft along with a 2018 3rd round pick to move one spot. Going from 3 to 6 is a lot more.Chubb will be there though. Which is why we don’t have to trade up. We’ll get one of the 4 QB’s at 6. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Even as a placeholder for a first round QB, Bradford is a terrible choice because he can't stay on the field. What the f**k is wrong with this franchise???? To draft Bradford and then not even take a QB in round 1 would constitute a dereliction of duty on MAc's part and should get him fired on the spot!!! I'm getting my mind crushing Jets pre-draft migraine a little early this year. Honestly. Who cares who the opening day starter is when you draft a rookie at 6 or higher. He needs to play year 1 anyway. Worst case he comes in a few week earlier than desired. Everyone’s going to want to see him sooner anyway. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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