NYJets8 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Free agent quarterback Kirk Cousins is reportedly deciding between signing with the Minnesota Vikings and New York Jets, according to Bleacher Report's Matt Miller, who broke the news during his Stick to Football podcast. Miller added that he believes the Jets will ultimately win the Cousins sweepstakes, citing the team's greater cap flexibility. According to Spotrac.com, the Jets have roughly $94.8 million in cap space, while the Vikings sit at $50.9 million. That financial advantage should allow the Jets to make Cousins a more lucrative offer. Miller's report comes after ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Saturday that the Denver Broncos, Arizona Cardinals, Jets and Vikings were the four teams "expected to be vying" for Cousins come free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Does anyone think that he'd rather go to a contender in a heavy white Anglo Saxon Christian town for less money, or take more money with the Jets, who still have a lot of pieces to add and reside in Northern NJ near Harold and Kumar? I guess that's what it will boil down to at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 It all comes down to guaranteed money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Lets leave ethnic attributes out speaking as former moderator Only Cousins knows where he will be most comfortable to live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Also for some more money is not the issue we will see with Cousins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Maybe he or his wife is deadly afraid of mosquitos, which as everyone knows is the state bird of Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just now, nycdan said: Maybe he or his wife is deadly afraid of mosquitos, which as everyone knows is the state bird of Minnesota. That's only for 2 months. The rest of the year the state is frozen over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Not that I’m sold on the guy (although when compared with the option of a grooming of a rookie QB by Bowles it’s a no brainer to sign him), if you want the way to the guy’s heart you woo the wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 He's coming to the Jets and always was - Money will always win out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I don't know - I think it all boils down to cold hard cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Yeah, the two teams with the most money. Gee that was hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 What people are missing here is that Cousins is looking for a three year deal so he can cash in one more time. He’s not going to boost his value over those three years by playing for Todd in the outdoors in the northeast with no receivers and a patchwork line while getting his head kicked in by the Pats and Bills. He’s going to Minnesota to play for titles in a dome throwing to a receiving corps that made Case Keenum look like Bart Starr. The Vikings have a sh*t-ton of money as well and John Defillippo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, faba said: Lets leave ethnic attributes out speaking as former moderator Only Cousins knows where he will be most comfortable to live in Spoken like a true Anglo Saxon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Why am I suddenly reminded of Antoine Winfield and not in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, Freemanm said: Does anyone think that he'd rather go to a contender in a heavy white Anglo Saxon Christian town for less money, or take more money with the Jets, who still have a lot of pieces to add and reside in Northern NJ near Harold and Kumar? I guess that's what it will boil down to at this point. He is building a sweet house on lake MI. People seem to forget lot of players look to sign closer home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 31 minutes ago, nycdan said: Maybe he or his wife is deadly afraid of mosquitos, which as everyone knows is the state bird of Minnesota. Or Maybe he is afraid of every other deadly disease. That always seems to show up first in the nyc area ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The Jets will win this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Did you hear that Elway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 If he considers the money I agree he's coming to the Meadowlands. However, if he picks what would better his career then perhaps he won't come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, T0mShane said: What people are missing here is that Cousins is looking for a three year deal so he can cash in one more time. He’s not going to boost his value over those three years by playing for Todd in the outdoors in the northeast with no receivers and a patchwork line while getting his head kicked in by the Pats and Bills. He’s going to Minnesota to play for titles in a dome throwing to a receiving corps that made Case Keenum look like Bart Starr. The Vikings have a sh*t-ton of money as well and John Defillippo. Are these the new talking points you've instructed your pack of wolves to spread? I thought the Jets weren't ever in contention yet here they are.. still in the thick of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Are these the new talking points you've instructed your pack of wolves to spread? I thought the Jets weren't ever in contention yet here they are.. still in the thick of it. Matt Miller is a blogger who lives in Missouri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Matt Miller is a blogger who lives in Missouri. Don't you know that Missouri is the hotbed of all NFL chatter? There's also this: http://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/report-number-of-missouri-hate-groups-declines/1009916337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Matt Miller is a blogger who lives in Missouri. Do one for Jason Lancanfora.. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-free-agency-sweepstakes-will-come-down-to-the-jets-and-vikings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 42 minutes ago, T0mShane said: What people are missing here is that Cousins is looking for a three year deal so he can cash in one more time. He’s not going to boost his value over those three years by playing for Todd in the outdoors in the northeast with no receivers and a patchwork line while getting his head kicked in by the Pats and Bills. He’s going to Minnesota to play for titles in a dome throwing to a receiving corps that made Case Keenum look like Bart Starr. The Vikings have a sh*t-ton of money as well and John Defillippo. But even if he wants a three-year deal with thirty per season, you'd think a five or six-year deal with a lot of guarantees could convince him as well, no? Let's say it's 3 years, 90 million with 60 of it guaranteed from the Vikings vs 6 years, 180 million, 120 million guaranteed from the Jets - I think the latter offer is objectively better, no? The only reason I still think we've got a shot here is that we're seemingly willing to get sloppy with the guaranteed money. And if I'm a football player, I'll take the guaranteed money almost every time because of the risk inherent in the sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 52 minutes ago, Freemanm said: ...and reside in Northern NJ near Harold and Kumar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pac said: Are these the new talking points you've instructed your pack of wolves to spread? Pack? We're independent thinkers pal. I bow to nobody. Much like Kirk Cousins, who won't be bowing to anyone after he demands a 3-year deal so he can cash out one more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 minute ago, RutgersJetFan said: Pack? We're independent thinkers pal. I bow to nobody. Much like Kirk Cousins, who won't be bowing to anyone after he demands a 3-year deal so he can cash out one more time. It's perfect for the Vikings, it's the prime of their window to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 If we don't take a QB in this supposedly "legendary" draft I am going to laugh as I shed tears of pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Matt Miller is a blogger who lives in Missouri. 4 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Pack? We're independent thinkers pal. I bow to nobody. Much like Kirk Cousins, who won't be bowing to anyone after he demands a 3-year deal so he can cash out one more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, Pac said: Do one for Jason Lancanfora.. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/kirk-cousins-free-agency-sweepstakes-will-come-down-to-the-jets-and-vikings/ LaCanfora is so consistently out of the loop that has become an industry-wide case study in journalistic wrongness. https://www.paulkuharsky.com/news/why-nfl-reporters-seem-so-reluctant-to-admit-when-they-are-wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Freemanm said: Does anyone think that he'd rather go to a contender in a heavy white Anglo Saxon Christian town for less money, or take more money with the Jets, who still have a lot of pieces to add and reside in Northern NJ near Harold and Kumar? I guess that's what it will boil down to at this point. White Castle will be the deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 If i wanted to squeeze a few extra pubic hairs out of the VIKINGS, i would tell them the JETS are still in it too. Cmon. This dream is dead. Move along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, pointman said: If we don't take a QB in this supposedly "legendary" draft I am going to laugh as I shed tears of pain. I'm fairly confident we're taking a QB, he'll be really good and I'm fairly confident he will have an epiphany and quit football the week between the championship game and the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, RedBeardedSavage said: But even if he wants a three-year deal with thirty per season, you'd think five or six-year deal with a lot of guarantees could convince him as well, no? Let's say it's 3 years, 90 million with 60 of it guaranteed from the Vikings vs 6 years, 180 million, 120 million guaranteed from the Jets - I think the latter offer is objectively better, no? The only reason I still think we've got a shot here is that we're seemingly willing to get sloppy with the guaranteed money. And if I'm a football player, I'll take the guaranteed money almost every time because of the risk inherent in the sport. If it’s true he wants $90 guaranteed on the three year deal so he can score one more monster deal, I think you’d have to do more than guarantee the fourth year, and at some point even the sh*t-ass Jets have to take a step back and consider that they’re begging a guy who made the playoffs one time to come take $150(?) million dollars in cash from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If it’s true he wants $90 guaranteed on the three year deal so he can score one more monster deal, I think you’d have to do more than guarantee the fourth year, and at some point even the sh*t-ass Jets have to take a step back and consider that they’re begging a guy who made the playoffs one time to come take $150(?) million dollars in cash from them. If the Vikings offer 3 years @ 30 fully guaranteed, then yea, we're likely done. But this signing just screams Jets; Bowles gets his vet, Mac gets to go BPA in the draft, both get job security, the Johnsons can sell some tickets peddling that false hope they're so keen on. It'd be the most Jets thing ever to roll out the red carpet for Kirk Cousins with 100+ guaranteed dollars. I think we're gonna do it. And oddly enough, I think I'll be happy about it. We don't have the balls to draft L Jackson and we have enough stupidity to draft Josh Allen. This might be the best answer that these New York Jets can realistically summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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