Jetster Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 How can any coach come away from that Super Bowl & not learn you can't beat Belichick & Brady coaching like a pussy? Is there any coach in the league more timid than Bowles on 4th & short? I mean how many times did we punt near midfield with time on the clock. It's like he's never seen pass interference. Whether its Kirk Cousins or Mayfield or Rosen, this coaching staff has got to start thinking about aggressive offense. Yea, I get it if your D is balling, the opposing team has a weak offense themselves but that's not what this guy does. He turtles at every opportunity to show a little faith in his team. I keep waiting for this guy to learn something or at least show me SOMETHING he's gleaned from 3 full years as a head coach. I'm still waiting. I can't think of 1 coaching decision he made last year that turned a game. Hell, his conservative nature almost lost the Jags & talk about playing it closed to the vest vs the Chargers on O. Broncos? OMG, 1st time I've seen a Jet team raise the white flag since Tim Brown took Vance Joseph to the woodshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 This is a man that kicks field goals down three scores in what are basically exhibition games. He's not going to learn anything. My only hope is that the 2018 season passes quickly so they can sh*tcan this clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just now, Skeet Ulrich said: This is a man that kicks field goals down three scores in what are basically exhibition games. He's not going to learn anything. My only hope is that the 2018 season passes quickly so they can sh*tcan this clown He should’ve already been fired. He coaches with his tail between his legs, is horrible with game day management, he can’t control the locker room and his defense sucks year in and year out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 This is what happened to Todd Bowles. The team won 10 games and looked close to being playoff ready. The next year they sucked but they had a Qb and OC who would actually try and make comebacks by taking chances, this is why fitz had games where he tossed that 3, 4, 5th int. both he and gailey were not folding the tent but taking chances (Yes this was ill fated most to the time.) The team got embarrassed and lost badly some games, this stuck with Bubba Bowles, so this past year he was more than happy to lose by 7 points than to try and win but get blown out. And it worked perfectly for him, the team waddled to 5 wins and he was hailed as a great coach for winning 5 when the jets were suppose to win 3. Get ready for more of this, this coming year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 He learned what he already knew: run the ball + ball-control type high percentage passes to move the chains, eat up clock, and keep our opponents' high scoring offenses off the field. Remember, we get the same credit in the win column for winning 13-10 instead of 34-24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Eagles definitely lose if Todd Bowles was coaching Super Bowl. He is stubborn in his ways, not a guy who wishes to learn and improve at his craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: He learned what he already knew: run the ball + ball-control type high percentage passes to move the chains, eat up clock, and keep our opponents' high scoring offenses off the field. Remember, we get the same credit in the win column for winning 13-10 instead of 34-24. That scenario might work if we had a defense that didn't outright suck and if the NFL rules were not tailor made for down the field offense. He operates the team like we have the 85 bears defense. We don't. Also all of what you said goes out the window when you get down by 10 in the second half. VERY few teams have actually been able to pull that off in modern day football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Jetster said: How can any coach come away from that Super Bowl & not learn you can't beat Belichick & Brady coaching like a pussy? Is there any coach in the league more timid than Bowles on 4th & short? I mean how many times did we punt near midfield with time on the clock. It's like he's never seen pass interference. Whether its Kirk Cousins or Mayfield or Rosen, this coaching staff has got to start thinking about aggressive offense. Yea, I get it if your D is balling, the opposing team has a weak offense themselves but that's not what this guy does. He turtles at every opportunity to show a little faith in his team. I keep waiting for this guy to learn something or at least show me SOMETHING he's gleamed from 3 full years as a head coach. I'm still waiting. I can't think of 1 coaching decision he made last year that turned a game. Hell, his conservative nature almost lost the Jags & talk about playing it closed to the vest vs the Chargers on O. Broncos? OMG, 1st time I've seen a Jet team raise the white flag since Tim Brown took Vance Joseph to the woodshed. I said it after the super bowl. Bowles would have been losing and had the team quit at the end of the 1st half like he did last season. Guy has shown ZERO growth as a coach on every level and can't get his Defense "his specialty" to perform. Bowles should have been fired, and still should be IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 What he should have learned is that everyone will blow you if the wind moves in that direction and that can happen sooner rather than later in this league. It’s not a complicated sport, the guy’s coached a team that did top of the league things as a rookie HC, and memories are often really short and selective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 When I think of Bowles, I think of George Carlin’s “Guys Named Todd” routine. Doubt he learned a thing. Who knows if he even watched the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Bowles? Learn? Pope? Protestant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Beerfish said: That scenario might work if we had a defense that didn't outright suck and if the NFL rules were not tailor made for down the field offense. He operates the team like we have the 85 bears defense. We don't. Also all of what you said goes out the window when you get down by 10 in the second half. VERY few teams have actually been able to pull that off in modern day football. Fix: like we have the '85 Bears defense and the '75 Bears offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Interestingly my mind jumped to I doubt it when I saw the title of the thread. Now that I’ve read it I can change my answer to I highly doubt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Never thought I’d want herm back. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Guys his QBs have been Ryan Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg. He is aggressive by nature, dude blitzes non stop so he isn't afraid of taking chances. How about they stop taking chances with a crappy roster and then we see what they do on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Bowles thinks punting the ball down 2 scores with 7 minutes left from midfield on 4th and 2 back to an offense with Roethlisberger, LeV, and AntBrown makes sense. Anything he learns would be like advancing from kindergarten to 1st grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, SenorGato said: What he should have learned is that everyone will blow you if the wind moves in that direction and that can happen sooner rather than later in this league. It’s not a complicated sport, the guy’s coached a team that did top of the league things as a rookie HC, and memories are often really short and selective. Similar to Rex. Bunch of vets & weak schedule...GENIUS! It's amazing to me how Todd & Rex can't coach a damn lick when they are forced to TEACH, and don't have teams laden with all stars. I could never get the stench of that Buffalo loss out of my nose. From playing Ridley, to the team not being up to kick the doors down to get into the playoffs vs a team that had spent the week digging out of blizzard, all of their bags packed for the offseason, and we go up there & lay a damn egg. We'll see what happens, if Cousins comes & they beef up the offense, Bates might just be able to hide the warts of Bowles & Rogers. We go rookie QB at 6, pick up a jag vet, it's gonna be a loooong season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jetster said: Similar to Rex. Bunch of vets & weak schedule...GENIUS! The Eagles played the Giants, 52 third stringers on the Redskins, and a Cowboys team with a hobbled offense a combined 6 times. FO has their 2017 schedule as the 8th easiest: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=stats/teameff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 hell no.. bowles is as stubborn as he is chicken ****.. what an absolutely awful combination for an NFL HC.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 You are what you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 32 minutes ago, SenorGato said: The Eagles played the Giants, 52 third stringers on the Redskins, and a Cowboys team with a hobbled offense a combined 6 times. FO has their 2017 schedule as the 8th easiest: https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=stats/teameff But they beat the all comers & won the Super Bowl, what's your point? They kicked the sh*t out of a good Vikings team too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, Maxman said: Guys his QBs have been Ryan Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg. He is aggressive by nature, dude blitzes non stop so he isn't afraid of taking chances. How about they stop taking chances with a crappy roster and then we see what they do on offense. Ummm this 1000X Does anyone even recall when Bowles was aggressive at the half, only to see McCown throw a back breaking pick!! And show me an super aggressive HC with Fitz under center and I will show you a stupid unemployed HC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Bowles couldn't learn anything from Sesame Street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jetster said: But they beat the all comers & won the Super Bowl, what's your point? Woof, not walking the convo backwards for you to catch up and run us in circles again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, Maxman said: Guys his QBs have been Ryan Fitzpatrick, Geno Smith, Bryce Petty and Christian Hackenberg. He is aggressive by nature, dude blitzes non stop so he isn't afraid of taking chances. How about they stop taking chances with a crappy roster and then we see what they do on offense. Being aggressive on defense means ZERO as far as being aggressive on offense. Rex was the same, rexs dad was the same. These D coaches have this faulty thought that the offense is just to not screw up so their D can win the game. Bowles defense sucks as well that is why we win 5 games. He also blitzes because we draft no pass rushers and the DLineman we hope to apply pressure are lazy or run stoppers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: Being aggressive on defense means ZERO as far as being aggressive on offense. Rex was the same, rexs dad was the same. These D coaches have this faulty thought that the offense is just to not screw up so their D can win the game. Bowles defense sucks as well that is why we win 5 games. He also blitzes because we draft no pass rushers and the DLineman we hope to apply pressure are lazy or run stoppers. Right on and to add to that, these coaches always feel that if they have a stellar D that the Offense shouldn't take any chances when that is completely illogical. If your D is so great that it can limit the other team's scoring, you shouldn't be afraid to take MORE chances on Offense because your D should be able to pick up the slack if it ends up not working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, johnnyjet said: Never thought I’d want herm back. Lol. Somehow Herm actually had success here. I'm pretty sure our last division title was under Herm and we won playoff games under the guy (and should've beaten the Steelers in the Doug Brien game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Jetster said: Similar to Rex. Bunch of vets & weak schedule...GENIUS! It's amazing to me how Todd & Rex can't coach a damn lick when they are forced to TEACH, and don't have teams laden with all stars. I could never get the stench of that Buffalo loss out of my nose. From playing Ridley, to the team not being up to kick the doors down to get into the playoffs vs a team that had spent the week digging out of blizzard, all of their bags packed for the offseason, and we go up there & lay a damn egg. We'll see what happens, if Cousins comes & they beef up the offense, Bates might just be able to hide the warts of Bowles & Rogers. We go rookie QB at 6, pick up a jag vet, it's gonna be a loooong season. This is why I don't want Cousins as much as it pains me. He will do just enough to bail out Bowles. Again. "8 wins! Think of the improvement! Playoffs in '19!" Give me a rookie QB. Get him some playing experience. Let him stink up the joint and learn this year. New HC next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Jetster said: How can any coach come away from that Super Bowl & not learn you can't beat Belichick & Brady coaching like a pussy? Is there any coach in the league more timid than Bowles on 4th & short? I mean how many times did we punt near midfield with time on the clock. It's like he's never seen pass interference. Whether its Kirk Cousins or Mayfield or Rosen, this coaching staff has got to start thinking about aggressive offense. Yea, I get it if your D is balling, the opposing team has a weak offense themselves but that's not what this guy does. He turtles at every opportunity to show a little faith in his team. I keep waiting for this guy to learn something or at least show me SOMETHING he's gleaned from 3 full years as a head coach. I'm still waiting. I can't think of 1 coaching decision he made last year that turned a game. Hell, his conservative nature almost lost the Jags & talk about playing it closed to the vest vs the Chargers on O. Broncos? OMG, 1st time I've seen a Jet team raise the white flag since Tim Brown took Vance Joseph to the woodshed. You are all crazy, Todd's way is the best and only way "Yama Yama Yama Ya--ma Yama Yama Yama Ya--ma" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Bowles, throughout his career, has been around some of the best coaches in the history of the NFL and appears to have learned absolutely ******* nothing, but he’s gonna learn something from watching Doug Pederson on TV for three hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Bowles, throughout his career, has been around some of the best coaches in the history of the NFL and appears to have learned absolutely ******* nothing, but he’s gonna learn something from watching Doug Pederson on TV for three hours? Contemporary coaches, lol. Your talking about historic coaches that have zero relevance to today's NFL, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Ummm this 1000X Does anyone even recall when Bowles was aggressive at the half, only to see McCown throw a back breaking pick!! And show me an super aggressive HC with Fitz under center and I will show you a stupid unemployed HC! Exactly, out of one side of their mouth fans are calling Mac the worst GM for not getting a QB - then the other side calling Bowles scared for not being agressive with said QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The only thing that Todd Bowles has learned is that he needs to pass less and build a roster of players who might not be very good but dont challenge him and are easy to coach because otherwise he sh*ts his pants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: Ummm this 1000X Does anyone even recall when Bowles was aggressive at the half, only to see McCown throw a back breaking pick!! And show me an super aggressive HC with Fitz under center and I will show you a stupid unemployed HC! You do realize that Bowles declared Fitz the starter before he was even signed? Bowles WANTED Fitzpatrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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