At least the whole Cousins thing will be done soon

[JohnnyLV]

Probably by Monday, latest by next Friday the whole Cousins thing will be over.

I will root for him if we do sign him, but really looking forward to hearing he went elsewhere. A late push by Denver would be best for us.

I truly hope the Mayfield rumors are true, I think he will be a great pro. I actually think 3 or 4 of them will be. Rosen would be only pick I would be disappointed in at QB,

 

 

[joewilly12]

[Patriot Killa]

@SAR I

[ScarletKnight89]

Next week will be very entertaining 

[JohnnyLV]

Just now, ScarletKnight89 said:

Next week will be very entertaining 

Yeah it will tell us a LOT about how secure Mac and Bowles jobs really are and how committed the Johnsons are to the rebuild.

[Grandy]

I think it'll be best if Cousins signs elsewhere. It'll force this team to get an exciting youngster, and build around him. The Colts turned a sorry franchise into a household name with Manning, maybe it's our turn.

[GATA]

Yes, thank baby Jesus.

So help me God if I have to go through another 20 Cousins Threads I'm going to off myself.

[johnnyjet]

Cousins>keenum. Just sayin

[Jack Straw]

23 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Probably by Monday, latest by next Friday the whole Cousins thing will be over.

I will root for him if we do sign him, but really looking forward to hearing he went elsewhere. A late push by Denver would be best for us.

I truly hope the Mayfield rumors are true, I think he will be a great pro. I actually think 3 or 4 of them will be. Rosen would be only pick I would be disappointed in at QB,

 

 

At this point I have to ask, have you actually ever watched Josh Rosen play? If so, what exactly would be disappointing about him being drafted by the Jets? I ask because my d*ck jumps out of my pants when I watch him throw a football, so please, help me understand your disappointment. 

[peebag]

3 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

At this point I have to ask, have you actually ever watched Josh Rosen play? If so, what exactly would be disappointing about him being drafted by the Jets? I ask because my d*ck jumps out of my pants when I watch him throw a football, so please, help me understand your disappointment. 

Rosen and Darnold are the best two QB prospects in this draft.

[Patriot Killa]

44 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Probably by Monday, latest by next Friday the whole Cousins thing will be over.

I will root for him if we do sign him, but really looking forward to hearing he went elsewhere. A late push by Denver would be best for us.

I truly hope the Mayfield rumors are true, I think he will be a great pro. I actually think 3 or 4 of them will be. Rosen would be only pick I would be disappointed in at QB,

 

 

I am not understanding how anyone could think Rosen wasn’t the top 2 in this class. I find it extremely difficult to understand lol.

[PepPep]

31 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Probably by Monday, latest by next Friday the whole Cousins thing will be over.

I will root for him if we do sign him, but really looking forward to hearing he went elsewhere. A late push by Denver would be best for us.

I truly hope the Mayfield rumors are true, I think he will be a great pro. I actually think 3 or 4 of them will be. Rosen would be only pick I would be disappointed in at QB,

 

 

Ok. But wouldn't it suck if Cousins went to Viking and the Broncos drafted Mayfield one spot ahead of us, with Rosen going to the Giants and Darnold going to the Browns? 

Just saying. I really don't understand why so many Jet fans are anti-Cousins. Getting him would give the Jets a ton of options in the draft. From taking the surest of prospects (Nelson) to getting an elite RB (Barkley) to a much needed shut down CB (Ward or Fitzpatrick) to a blue chip LT prospect to a trade down for a boat load of draft picks. I mean, you go from a choice between the 4th or 5th best QB (hoping your guy falls) OR giving up the farm to move up a few spots to grab the #2 or #3 QB....to endless possibilities. 

To me, going after Cousins is a no brainer. The money is going to be on par with what good QBs will be paid in the next couple of years (Marriotta, Carr, J.Winston will get similar offers) and the commitment won't be as extreme as most make it out to be. It will probably be a 5-6 year deal with an opportunity to part ways in year 4 or 5 with little to no cap penalty (front loaded). Those 4 seasons will FLY by I guarantee you. Lest we forget that Geno F-ing Smith and Mark 'butt-fumble' Sanchez were Jets for 4 years- now they are ancient history.

And while ANY of the QBs in this draft could be busts or take forever to develop, Cousins is a sure thing. You can argue about whether or not he can 'win the big game' but his stats are undeniable. He is far above 'average'. The dude can BALL. Put a good team around him, support him with a solid defense and he will win you games and take you to the playoff. 

2015: Compl 69.8%, 4,166yrds, 29TDs, 11INTs (Age 27)
2016: Compl 67%, 4,917yrds, 25TDs, 12INTs (Age 28)
2017: Compl 64.3%, 4,093yrds, 27TDs, 13INTs (Age 29)

    

[Warfish]

46 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

Probably by Monday, latest by next Friday the whole Cousins thing will be over.

I will root for him if we do sign him, but really looking forward to hearing he went elsewhere. A late push by Denver would be best for us.

I truly hope the Mayfield rumors are true, I think he will be a great pro. I actually think 3 or 4 of them will be. Rosen would be only pick I would be disappointed in at QB,

Presuming you are right, and Cousins goes elsewhere as you desire:

What year will be the first where whichever QB we draft has more passing yards and more passing TD's than Cousins, in your opinion?

[Lupz27]

19 minutes ago, peebag said:

Rosen and Darnold are the best two QB prospects in this draft.

And it’s not even close!

[Lupz27]

1 minute ago, Warfish said:

Presuming you are right, and Cousins goes elsewhere as you desire:

What year will be the first where whichever QB we draft has more passing yards and more passing TD's than Cousins, in your opinion?

Who cares?  It’s about winning not inflated stats in an era of football where Ryan Fitzpatrick threw for 4K yards, and 30 TDS.

[Warfish]

1 minute ago, Lupz27 said:

Who cares?  It’s about winning not inflated stats in an era of football where Ryan Fitzpatrick threw for 4K yards, and 30 TDS.

Do passing yards and passing TD's by your QB not help their teams win?

Ok, let me ask YOU then, since you're all panties-in-a-bunch, what year will be the first year the QB we draft has more WINS than Cousins, presuming he goes elsewhere?

[BigRy56]

That boy is gonna look DAMN GOOD! in green and white

[Lupz27]

12 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Do passing yards and passing TD's by your QB not help their teams win?

Ok, let me ask YOU then, since you're all panties-in-a-bunch, what year will be the first year the QB we draft has more WINS than Cousins, presuming he goes elsewhere?

I mean Blake Bortles threw for like 4500 yards and 30 TDS winning like 3 games, Cousins is 4-16 vs winning teams with all those gaudy stats, and a career 26-30-1 record, so to answer your first question no not always.  I’d presume the Jets will be no better off with Cousins then with a drafted 1st round QB, and place holder, could care less what a player would presumably do for another team, all I care about is what he would presumably do for the Jets as a Jet, and again I’d presume the same 5-9 win seasons missing playoffs the next 3 years with Kirk Cousins.

[32EBoozer]

30 minutes ago, peebag said:

Rosen and Darnold are the best two QB prospects in this draft.

I disagree about Darnold.... a propensity for turnovers, Southern Cal pretty boy who pussy's out of throwing at the combine. This kid is NOT made for Northeast football!! Give me Mayfield over this guy.... heart of a champion!

Rosen is the best pure passer in this draft, but I also wonder if he eats, drinks and $h!ts football like Mayfield??

 

I'd like Cousins in FA and then a mid-round QB. If Cousin's is gone go get Rosen or Mayfield. I'd even take Allen over Darnold.

[Jetsplayer21]

Extra 1- 2 wins with cousins says ESPN ? Ha. 

How much would Cousins improve the Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings, Denver Broncos, New York Jets and other teams facing quarterback dilemmas this offseason?

The answers are well within our grasp.

First, a question: Which Kirk Cousins is his next team getting? Will it be the Cousins who trails only Tom Brady, Matt Ryan, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger and Drew Breesin Total QBR from 2015 to 2017 among quarterbacks who started all three seasons? Or, will it be the Cousins who ranked 15th in QBR last season, behind Blake Bortles, Marcus Mariota and Tyrod Taylor?

In that regard, the question Vikings coach Mike Zimmer raised regarding Case Keenum -- "Is he the guy that played for the Rams or is he the guy that played for us?" -- applies in principle to Cousins as well. The difference is that Cousins has performed at a higher level over multiple seasons, whereas Keenum is a one-year wonder until proved otherwise.

Because of that, we compared the three-year production for Cousins against the quarterback production for Minnesota and other QB-needy teams over the same 2015-17 span. Then, we looked at what the 2017 version of Cousins would add to the QB-needy teams. Finally, we looked at what the 2015-17 version of Cousins would've done for those same teams in 2017. This gave us a range of additional wins for each team.

Note: For more on how many more wins Cousins would add to the Cardinals, Broncos, Vikings, Jets, Browns, Jaguars, Dolphins and Giants in each of those three scenarios -- as well as how we got to those conclusions -- click here.

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A team-by-team overview of Cousins' potential impact

2. Denver Broncos (+2.6 to +3.8 victories)

Cousins would certainly provide an upgrade for the Broncos, but if age catches up to their defense and the offensive support remains lacking, the payoff might be disappointing.

Denver has been here before. The 2011 Broncos averaged 46.3 in QBR, which equates to 7.4-win QB performance. Peyton Manning produced at a 12-win level the following year (74.9 average QBR). Manning's addition and the Broncos' simultaneous improvement on defense helped the Broncos jump from 8-8 to 13-3. Cousins is not Manning, and the Denver defense might be trending in the opposite direction, although after especially dispiriting QB play last season, positive change could re-energize Von Miller & Co.

3. Miami Dolphins (+2.2 to +3.3 victories)

The projected improvement range might need some tweaking in the Dolphins' case simply because their quarterback situation has been jumbled enough to make recent baselines less relevant.

Cousins at his worst (2017) equated to 8.5 expected wins, compared to the 7.6-win expectation for the 2016 version of Ryan Tannehill (47.5 average QBR). That's an improvement, but not a dramatic one. The gap widens to about two full games if we use the 60.2 QBR Cousins from the 2015-17 seasons. Do the Dolphins think they can get that level of performance from Tannehill?

Miami has had success in the veteran quarterback market previously. The addition of Chad Pennington before the 2008 season produced a 4.2-game improvement at the position as Miami jumped from a 37.5 average QBR (2007) to a 63.7 average QBR (2008). That upgrade, coupled with significant improvements on defense, helped the Dolphins jump from 1-15 to 11-5.

4. New York Giants (+2.0 to +3.1 victories)

The 60.2 QBR Cousins adds nearly 2.2 victories per season to the Giants, which is roughly the same as he would add to the Jets. That's right, the Eli Manning-led Giants have a 46.6 average QBR since 2015, which is a tick below the 46.7 average for the Jets.

The Giants' offensive line and receiver situation were horrendous last season, making it tougher to evaluate Manning's performance. The Giants' 2017 QBR baseline could be misleading as a result.

5. Arizona Cardinals (+0.8 to +3.1 victories)

The relatively modest gain in victories on the low end could be misleading. This calculation was made using Carson Palmer's production from the past three seasons in Arizona. Palmer has retired. For the Cardinals, a modest improvement from Palmer could represent a massive improvement from other quarterbacks that could be available to Arizona.

The Cardinals learned in 2012 just how bad the bottom of the QB barrel can be. Their 27.1 average QBR that season projected to 4.3 victories (the team went 5-11), leading Arizona into the market for a veteran quarterback. Palmer produced an immediate 4.1-victory improvement with a 53.1 average QBR in 2013 as Arizona improved to 10-6.

A torn ACL sidelined Palmer in 2014, and Arizona's average QBR dipped to 49.6, which equates to 7.9 projected victories (Arizona went 6-0 with Palmer and 5-5 without him, helped along by a defense that ranked seventh in ESPN's efficiency metric). Palmer returned better than ever in 2015, producing a 72.8 average QBR that projected to 11.6 victories (Arizona went 13-3).

6. New York Jets (+1.2 to +2.3 victories)

The Jets have the roster spot, cap space and cash flow to make a run at Cousins, and the numbers say he'd be worth at least a couple of victories per season. However, Cousins' average QBR from last season (53.3) is about the same as the 50.2 average that Josh McCown posted, so there's a chance Cousins would not provide the anticipated bump.

The Jets have added big-name veteran QBs previously. They improved from 4-12 to 9-7 after adding Brett Favre for the 2008 season. Favre himself provided only a modest upgrade in QBR, worth about 1.2 additional victories. The Jets improved quite a bit statistically on both sides of the ball after a free-agent spending spree that landed Alan Faneca, Calvin Pace, Damien Woody, Ty Law, Bubba Franks and Tony Richardson.

[ljr]

The Favre example is only due to injury ... Prob not the best example for the author to be using

[Greensleeves]

1 hour ago, PepPep said:

Ok. But wouldn't it suck if Cousins went to Viking and the Broncos drafted Mayfield one spot ahead of us, with Rosen going to the Giants and Darnold going to the Browns? 

Just saying. I really don't understand why so many Jet fans are anti-Cousins. Getting him would give the Jets a ton of options in the draft. From taking the surest of prospects (Nelson) to getting an elite RB (Barkley) to a much needed shut down CB (Ward or Fitzpatrick) to a blue chip LT prospect to a trade down for a boat load of draft picks. I mean, you go from a choice between the 4th or 5th best QB (hoping your guy falls) OR giving up the farm to move up a few spots to grab the #2 or #3 QB....to endless possibilities. 

To me, going after Cousins is a no brainer. The money is going to be on par with what good QBs will be paid in the next couple of years (Marriotta, Carr, J.Winston will get similar offers) and the commitment won't be as extreme as most make it out to be. It will probably be a 5-6 year deal with an opportunity to part ways in year 4 or 5 with little to no cap penalty (front loaded). Those 4 seasons will FLY by I guarantee you. Lest we forget that Geno F-ing Smith and Mark 'butt-fumble' Sanchez were Jets for 4 years- now they are ancient history.

And while ANY of the QBs in this draft could be busts or take forever to develop, Cousins is a sure thing. You can argue about whether or not he can 'win the big game' but his stats are undeniable. He is far above 'average'. The dude can BALL. Put a good team around him, support him with a solid defense and he will win you games and take you to the playoff. 

2015: Compl 69.8%, 4,166yrds, 29TDs, 11INTs (Age 27)
2016: Compl 67%, 4,917yrds, 25TDs, 12INTs (Age 28)
2017: Compl 64.3%, 4,093yrds, 27TDs, 13INTs (Age 29)

  

1 hour ago, PepPep said:

Ok. But wouldn't it suck if Cousins went to Viking and the Broncos drafted Mayfield one spot ahead of us, with Rosen going to the Giants and Darnold going to the Browns? 

Just saying. I really don't understand why so many Jet fans are anti-Cousins. Getting him would give the Jets a ton of options in the draft. From taking the surest of prospects (Nelson) to getting an elite RB (Barkley) to a much needed shut down CB (Ward or Fitzpatrick) to a blue chip LT prospect to a trade down for a boat load of draft picks. I mean, you go from a choice between the 4th or 5th best QB (hoping your guy falls) OR giving up the farm to move up a few spots to grab the #2 or #3 QB....to endless possibilities. 

To me, going after Cousins is a no brainer. The money is going to be on par with what good QBs will be paid in the next couple of years (Marriotta, Carr, J.Winston will get similar offers) and the commitment won't be as extreme as most make it out to be. It will probably be a 5-6 year deal with an opportunity to part ways in year 4 or 5 with little to no cap penalty (front loaded). Those 4 seasons will FLY by I guarantee you. Lest we forget that Geno F-ing Smith and Mark 'butt-fumble' Sanchez were Jets for 4 years- now they are ancient history.

And while ANY of the QBs in this draft could be busts or take forever to develop, Cousins is a sure thing. You can argue about whether or not he can 'win the big game' but his stats are undeniable. He is far above 'average'. The dude can BALL. Put a good team around him, support him with a solid defense and he will win you games and take you to the playoff. 

2015: Compl 69.8%, 4,166yrds, 29TDs, 11INTs (Age 27)
2016: Compl 67%, 4,917yrds, 25TDs, 12INTs (Age 28)
2017: Compl 64.3%, 4,093yrds, 27TDs, 13INTs (Age 29)

    

So paying a QB 30 million dollars a year that is 4-19 against teams with winning records is OK with you? I honestly don’t understand how this would be OK with any Jets fan. It clearly shows he isn’t able to elevate the players around him.

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[pointman]

F cousins. I hope he goes to the vikings, and then wins about 9 games then gets called names for being worse than Keenum. 

[JohnnyLV]

3 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

At this point I have to ask, have you actually ever watched Josh Rosen play? If so, what exactly would be disappointing about him being drafted by the Jets? I ask because my d*ck jumps out of my pants when I watch him throw a football, so please, help me understand your disappointment. 

I love him as a prospect, but he has injury concerns and I get a Ryan Leaf vibe from him that will not mix well in NY. JMO

[joewilly12]

50 minutes ago, SAR I said:

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LMFAO 

[Grandy]

1 hour ago, johnnysd said:

I love him as a prospect, but he has injury concerns and I get a Ryan Leaf vibe from him that will not mix well in NY. JMO

Ryan Leaf was the big armed inaccurate guy. Rosen can make any throw with top accuracy.

[JohnnyLV]

3 hours ago, Grandy said:

Ryan Leaf was the big armed inaccurate guy. Rosen can make any throw with top accuracy.

I meant personality wise

[jgb]

10 hours ago, Warfish said:

Presuming you are right, and Cousins goes elsewhere as you desire:

What year will be the first where whichever QB we draft has more passing yards and more passing TD's than Cousins, in your opinion?

Depends on when Cousins retires.

[jetsons]

At least the whole Cousins thing will be done soon

GO VIKINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or BRONCOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JohnnyLV]

It's officially over. Kirk coming across as a douche in his press conference. So happy he signed elsewhere.

[T0mShane]

Going to upload a public service announcement in a second. Please stay tuned.

[T0mShane]

Here it is.

 

Whenever @SenorGato posts some sh*t in your direction, you can simply reply with the attached photo. Thank you, and have a wonderful rest of your day. 

 

[SenorGato]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Here it is.

Whenever @SenorGato posts some sh*t in your direction, you can simply reply with the attached photo. Thank you, and have a wonderful rest of your day. 

I will have my revenge soon when the Bills walk out of the draft with Josh Allen and Los Yets with one of the main three.

[jeremy2020]

On 3/9/2018 at 5:04 PM, SAR I said:

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You're underestimating Jets fans. I think we'll get at least one trade for cousins thread.