Jets now have most cap space

[Untouchable]

At $92 million

Browns: $76 million

Colts: $73.8 million 

Bucs: $73 million

49ers: $70 million 

 

No damn reason for this team not to come out of the gate guns blazing starting Monday.

Even if they miss out on Cousins, they need to snatch up guys like Robinson, Richburg and one of the top CB’s right away.

[TuscanyTile2]

We'll probably be in "cap hell" in about 2 years.

[Jetster]

I don't think I've been this excited for free agency & the draft as I am for this one. Obviously this team is far from complete but I've seen many, many teams flip from one bad season to a great season. I'm hoping these young guys really come together and Adams & Maye with a year under their belt should come into camp with a lot of confidence. If Macc resigns Clairborne, signs a CB like Gaines or Johnson & adds Tyrann Mathieu, I'm sure Macc & Bowles believe that either Robinson, Clark or Jones can emerge to play the 3rd or 4th CB/Slot. It doesn't look like Bowles wants to get rid of Skrine, so if one of those other young CBs does emerge, the Jets will have nice depth in the secondary. Maye, Matheiu, Brooks and even Skrine are really versatile types. I think the NY Jets could surprise people next year. This league has so much parity, injuries always even the field & older players are definitely more succeptible to getting tweaked. Keep pushing the youth movement Macc & let's put a team together that grows up together. 

[dbatesman]

Hell ****en ya babey

[Gen X Jet]

4 minutes ago, Jetster said:

I don't think I've been this excited for free agency & the draft as I am for this one. Obviously this team is far from complete but I've seen many, many teams flip from one bad season to a great season. I'm hoping these young guys really come together and Adams & Maye with a year under their belt should come into camp with a lot of confidence. If Macc resigns Clairborne, signs a CB like Gaines or Johnson & adds Tyrann Mathieu, I'm sure Macc & Bowles believe that either Robinson, Clark or Jones can emerge to play the 3rd or 4th CB/Slot. It doesn't look like Bowles wants to get rid of Skrine, so if one of those other young CBs does emerge, the Jets will have nice depth in the secondary. Maye, Matheiu, Brooks and even Skrine are really versatile types. I think the NY Jets could surprise people next year. This league has so much parity, injuries always even the field & older players are definitely more succeptible to getting tweaked. Keep pushing the youth movement Macc & let's put a team together that grows up together. 

Yay, what's not to like if you are a prospective free agent?  Great owner, smart as a tack coach and highly motivated veterans.  I'm pumped too!

[MDL_JET]

So many possibilities for the jets to ignore! Let’s get it started!!

[Jetster]

7 minutes ago, Gen X Jet said:

Yay, what's not to like if you are a prospective free agent?  Great owner, smart as a tack coach and highly motivated veterans.  I'm pumped too!

Sarcasm at it's lowest form. Say what you want, when players become free agents money is like EF Hutton. They're all listening when money is talking! Guys with egos as big as NFL players like to see themselves on NFL network signing a big contract. It could be in Timbuktu! 

[joewilly12]

I don't want them signing players who are all about money, I want to sign players who are hungry to win. 

[Jetster]

14 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Hell ****en ya babey

They might just trip & fall into lucky sh*t happening, you just never know? Maybe they get a guy to emerge from Clark, Jones or Robinson, it happens every year in this league. There are many solid NFL players who nobody knew who the hell they were in their 1st couple of years, Bart Scott comes to mind.

[Jetster]

1 minute ago, joewilly12 said:

I don't want them signing players who are all about money, I want to sign players who are hungry to win. 

Norwell & Jensen are free agents looking to cash in. I don't think they'll stop playing because the Jets paid them a bunch of money.

[CanadaSteve]

4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

I don't want them signing players who are all about money, I want to sign players who are hungry to win. 

I would agree, but then we have a problem; if you want to win, why would you come to the Jets right now?  This is why drafting is SOOO damn important.  When you draft well, you can continually have a shot to win.  When that happens, you have always got a shot at signing guys who want to win, and so the ball keeps rolling.

 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

Only sign young players that will be here for the long run.  Save the rest to re-sign Hack in two years.

[joewilly12]

Just now, CanadaSteve said:

I would agree, but then we have a problem; if you want to win, why would you come to the Jets right now?  This is why drafting is SOOO damn important.  When you draft well, you can continually have a shot to win.  When that happens, you have always got a shot at signing guys who want to win, and so the ball keeps rolling.

 

Agree, strong drafts essentially build your team and free agency enhances the team. 

[Mike135]

Who knows about Robinson?  Guy looks good but has missed like a year and a half out of four years with injuries right?  Coming off an ACL now.

Is he worth big money?

[Pcola]

5 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said:

I would agree, but then we have a problem; if you want to win, why would you come to the Jets right now?  This is why drafting is SOOO damn important.  When you draft well, you can continually have a shot to win.  When that happens, you have always got a shot at signing guys who want to win, and so the ball keeps rolling.

 

I think we can all look to Philly and the LA Rams as examples.  They were bad teams that made  old trades that everyone knocked at first.  By their rookie QBs 2nd season, they were contending and winning the SB.

Signing Robinson, Richburg, a RB like McKinnon, trading for Mathieu will set the team up to be successful.

But the most important thing of all is coming away with a legitimate QB.  Darnold, Rosen, and even Mayfield could turn around this team with those added vets, in very short order.

Adding a bunch of Jags because we weren’t willing to over pay the elite free agents coupled with a QB depth chart of McCown and Bridgewater would be a disaster.  And a real mess for our next GM and HC to clean up.

[CanadaSteve]

6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Agree, strong drafts essentially build your team and free agency enhances the team. 

I like a BAP approach, but not the way Mac seems to do it.  If Jamal Adams is the BAP because he drops to six, I don't draft him just because of that.

I would think the better approach is BAP by position, and rank your positions.  I have the top 3 in each position and I rank the positions how I want to draft this year.  If the value is not there for my first position, I move to the second.  If the value isn't there, I move again.

In this draft I would be looking to go QB, Edge Rusher, C, RB, OL, etc....

If he draft another S/CB with 6 because Minkah Fitzpatrick is the BAP no matter the position, I will personally go and fire Mac.

[Untouchable]

1 minute ago, Mike135 said:

Who knows about Robinson?  Guy looks good but has missed like a year and a half out of four years with injuries right?  Coming off an ACL now.

Is he worth big money?

I’ve said it before, he’s basically a young Brandon Marshall but without the headaches.

Big bodied, athletic guy who high points the ball and is only 24 years old. The biggest knock on him, much like Marshall, is that he has some concentration drops here and there.

I’m not really worried about the ACL. Just 15 years ago, it could very well end your career. Now guys come back within 8 months just as good as ever.

Plus, he tore his ACL in the first game of the season. He’s already had 6 months to rehab with another 4 1/2 months until TC starts up.

I’d absolutely make a strong push for him.

 

[Pcola]

5 minutes ago, Mike135 said:

Who knows about Robinson?  Guy looks good but has missed like a year and a half out of four years with injuries right?  Coming off an ACL now.

Is he worth big money?

Robinson is a top 5 WR.  He is a major red zone threat and in his young career, got Hackenberg drafted in the second round and saved Bortles career.

Macc can give him a massive contract that we can get out of after two years.  It’s worth the risk, we literally have no one on the current roster to pay the next two years except Leonard Williams.

[usanyj]

And all this starts on midnight Monday? Just can’t sign til Wednesday but you can agree starting Monday is that correct?

[Untouchable]

1 minute ago, usanyj said:

And all this starts on midnight Monday? Just can’t sign til Wednesday but you can agree starting Monday is that correct?

Yes

Players can begin agreeing to terms starting Monday.

[T0mShane]

22 minutes ago, Jetster said:

you just never know?

Oh. We know.

[Paradis]

I'll believe when I see it

[Jetster]

19 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Oh. We know.

Lol, you do notice that state things in very vague terms right. Could happen, may happen, might get lucky, ect. I actually feel that is the ONLY thing that could turn this franchise around. 

It has to be something like the Jets go into the draft & it's Mayfield on their board & some team jumps ahead them STEALS Mayfield, we all lament what a sorry azz organization we are, and Rosen falls in our laps & turns into a better Goff, lol. He gets the nickname SILK because he runs the WCO Bates puts in as smooth as silk. 

Because Rosen is so good, he elevates everyone around him. Stewart & Hansen become Ebony & Ivory in Manish Monday game reviews,  Enunwa returns at 100% and Rosen turns him into the best Hybrid player in the league. Leggett emerges & reminds people of a bigger Anquan Boldin and our 1st second round pick Guice, outgains the Browns Barkley.

Then my alarm goes off.

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Jetster said:

Lol, you do notice that state things in very vague terms right. Could happen, may happen, might get lucky, ect. I actually feel that is the ONLY thing that could turn this franchise around. 

It has to be something like the Jets go into the draft & it's Mayfield on their board & some team jumps ahead them STEALS Mayfield, we all lament what a sorry azz organization we are, and Rosen falls in our laps & turns into a better Goff, lol. He gets the nickname SILK because he runs the WCO Bates puts in as smooth as silk. 

Because Rosen is so good, he elevates everyone around him. Stewart & Hansen become Ebony & Ivory in Manish Monday game reviews,  Enunwa returns at 100% and Rosen turns him into the best Hybrid player in the league. Leggett emerges & reminds people of a bigger Anquan Boldin and our 1st second round pick Guice, outgains the Browns Barkley.

Then my alarm goes off.

We’ll know soon enough*, I guess.

 

 

 

 

*we already know 

[Untouchable]

1 hour ago, Gen X Jet said:

Yay, what's not to like if you are a prospective free agent?  Great owner, smart as a tack coach and highly motivated veterans.  I'm pumped too!

A sh*tload of money and being able to play in the biggest endorsement/media market in the world...thus making an even larger sh*tload of money.

Anyone who thinks these guys are putting the owner or coach above their bottom line is a goof.

Fans have this perception that a bunch of these guys are willing to leave an extra $10+ million sitting on the table in order to play for a team that is considered more of a “contender” right now, which is just bullsh*t of the highest order.

[bitonti]

water water everywhere and not a drop to drink

[JetsFanatic]

It's not the size that matters, its what you do with it!

[SenorGato]

According to #STEM research here, money is just like this thing we're supposed to get mad at if Woody is forced to spend though no one actually wants any but bad and greedy players. Lord Woody might not get to go truffle hunting this year if the Jets spend or something. 

If you want real power - complie some bottom ten firsts, some late seconds and thirds lol, and almost 1/3 the cap space.

[ScarletKnight89]

We definitely have to come away with the right signings in FA. Younger players who will be here for a while. Not just a 2 year stopgap guy. Besides the QB position I'd be interested in Allen Robinson and hopefully an O-Lineman or two who we can plug in and start, as well as a CB.

[Greensleeves]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

A sh*tload of money and being able to play in the biggest endorsement/media market in the world...thus making an even larger sh*tload of money.

Anyone who thinks these guys are putting the owner or coach above their bottom line is a goof.

Fans have this perception that a bunch of these guys are willing to leave an extra $10+ million sitting on the table in order to play for a team that is considered more of a “contender” right now, which is just bullsh*t of the highest order.

That’s just isn’t true of all players. Smart people, and I think Cousins is one, realizes if he goes to a better situation, he WILL make more money in the long run. Maybe lesser guys think that way, but Cousins has been paid well already. Where the team is located matters to the family, if they have one or may be starting one. 

[MDL_JET]

1 hour ago, Untouchable said:

A sh*tload of money and being able to play in the biggest endorsement/media market in the world...thus making an even larger sh*tload of money.

Anyone who thinks these guys are putting the owner or coach above their bottom line is a goof.

Fans have this perception that a bunch of these guys are willing to leave an extra $10+ million sitting on the table in order to play for a team that is considered more of a “contender” right now, which is just bullsh*t of the highest order.

Who outside of a QB is getting endorsements with this team? Playing in biggest media market is not swaying anyone.  The crap load of money...yes. 

[Untouchable]

12 minutes ago, Greensleeves said:

That’s just isn’t true of all players. Smart people, and I think Cousins is one, realizes if he goes to a better situation, he WILL make more money in the long run. Maybe lesser guys think that way, but Cousins has been paid well already. Where the team is located matters to the family, if they have one or may be starting one. 

I’ve yet to see something like this happen.

I’m not talking about over the hill vets taking a million or two less to go to a place like New England for a year and try to win a ring before they call it quits.

I’m talking about a player in his prime looking for his first big contract...but ends up taking much less to sign with a team that is perceived as being in more of a “win now” mode. You just don’t see it.

These guys know that they aren’t playing past their mid-30’s (if they’re lucky) and outside of a handful of teams like the Pats and Steelers, the landscape shifts constantly in the NFL. Pretty much year to year, without fail.

At the end of the day, they go where the most money is, as they should quite frankly. I’ve been given zero reason to think otherwise.

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, SenorGato said:

According to #STEM research here, money is just like this thing we're supposed to get mad at if Woody is forced to spend though no one actually wants any but bad and greedy players. Lord Woody might not get to go truffle hunting this year if the Jets spend or something. 

 

 

if Woody Johnson could cut all the players, all the coaches and still get paid just to forfeit the games, that's what he'd do. 

this roster is built like Major League. there's not going to be Wild Thing to save the day. 

[jetsons]

Figures in a year where there are Absolutely ZERO studs in FA we lead the league in money...  what it is to be a jets fan.  :/

[Jetscode1]

4 hours ago, Jetster said:

I don't think I've been this excited for free agency & the draft as I am for this one. Obviously this team is far from complete but I've seen many, many teams flip from one bad season to a great season. I'm hoping these young guys really come together and Adams & Maye with a year under their belt should come into camp with a lot of confidence. If Macc resigns Clairborne, signs a CB like Gaines or Johnson & adds Tyrann Mathieu, I'm sure Macc & Bowles believe that either Robinson, Clark or Jones can emerge to play the 3rd or 4th CB/Slot. It doesn't look like Bowles wants to get rid of Skrine, so if one of those other young CBs does emerge, the Jets will have nice depth in the secondary. Maye, Matheiu, Brooks and even Skrine are really versatile types. I think the NY Jets could surprise people next year. This league has so much parity, injuries always even the field & older players are definitely more succeptible to getting tweaked. Keep pushing the youth movement Macc & let's put a team together that grows up together. 

Way to put this out there....the excitement builds as we watch Woody's guys build the best secondary in the NFL.  Have to hope Minkah falls to us in the six spot.