SenorGato Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, bitonti said: none of those things are true. But you earned a chuckle. here's a fact they have 90 million dollars in cap space and can't keep any of their own FA. Too lazy to check but preeeeetty sure no one's outspent the Jets in FA the past twenty years. That last sentence isn't a fact. They absolutely can keep their own FAs, they all just suck. Enunwa and the kicker are the only FAs I even want them considering bringing back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, New York Mick said: They’re apparently in talks with Keenum and Bradford. If they bring in either one them I don’t think they’ll trade up for a QB. They could use the extra picks. I heard theyre interested in McCarren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: You’re just gonna live and die with the 6>12 thing, I see. You're offering me zero reason to think otherwise. Is 12 better than 6 in this case lol? Also: 11 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Re: Stacking high picks on top of each other: Jets top 10 picks: 1 Bills: 0 Jets top 50 picks: 3 Bills: 1 That WC loss with the third oldest roster in the league seems totally worth it for allll those high picks they don't have. sh*t...sorry...They have 2 top 50s to the Jets' 3, still 0 to the Jets 1 top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, SenorGato said: I would agree. It's gotten them worst draft picks, less cap space, and an older plus more expensive roster. Color me wholly unimpressed. I keep going back to the Cubs fans who momentarily thought the Brewers were a thing last summer. Re: Stacking high picks on top of each other: Jets top 10 picks: 1 Bills: 0 Jets top 50 picks: 3 Bills: 1 How do you figure the Bills have 1 top-50 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, nycdan said: How do you figure the Bills have 1 top-50 pick? It's two, I just forgot. It's still 3 to 2 and 1 to 0 on top 50 and top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, SenorGato said: You're offering me zero reason to think otherwise. Is 12 better lol? Also: And wait, I missed that before, but the Jets are the Cubs now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: They also have a young up and coming Offensive minded HC who can coach up a rookie QB. We have Todd Bowles. Please stop, did you watch BUF at all this year? McDermott isn't an offensive minded coach (he was CAR DC) and did you see what he did to Peterman his rookie QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: And wait, I missed that before, but the Jets are the Cubs now? The Cubs weren't today's Cubs until October 2016 after a second+ of losing, but the comp is easily more apt between the Brewers and the Bills. Two teams that exceeded expectations, still didn't do sh*t, have weak draft position (Cubs have 4-5 picks in the top 100 this year, Brewers have 2-3, done the Jets/Bills), less financial flexibility, and still aren't even all that young or good for all their efforts.... So is 12 > 6 still in this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, SenorGato said: The Cubs weren't today's Cubs until October 2016 after a second+ of losing, but the comp is easily more apt between the Brewers and the Bills. Two teams that exceeded expectations, still didn't do sh*t, have weak draft position (Cubs have 4-5 picks in the top 100 this year, Brewers have 2-3), less financial flexibility, and still aren't even all that young or good for all their efforts.... So is 12 > 6 still in this draft? If four quarterbacks go in the first five picks, then six may as well be twelve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, KRL said: Please stop, did you watch BUF at all this year? McDermott isn't an offensive minded coach (he was CAR DC) and did you see what he did to Peterman his rookie QB? It speaks to what a nonentity that franchise is that like two people here know who their HC without Google. I legit thought Marrone lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Gen X Jet said: They also have a young up and coming Offensive minded HC who can coach up a rookie QB. We have Todd Bowles. LOL, youre just making it up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If four quarterbacks go in the first five picks, then six may as well be twelve. Which neither answers the question nor explains how the Bills' inferior draft capital will get them into that top 5. 12 > 6 in this draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetiHigh5! Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I agree, after trading Tyrod, I suspect the Bills know that no one actually wants to play in Buffalo and they are going to try to trade up (maybe with the Browns at #4?) to get their QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Which neither answers the question nor explains how the Bills' inferior draft capital will get them into that top 5. 12 > 6 in this draft? If the Bills want to be in the top five of the draft, they can do so. If the Jets want to be in the top five of the draft, they can also do so. Yesterday you were saying the Bills wouldn’t be able to get into the top five at all because both of their picks were in the twenties. Today, they have a pick at 12. Things change. Most people would rather be playing with the Bills hand today than the Jets hand. Including you, considering you wouldn’t answer that very question before. Also, is Jamal Adams the Kris Bryant in your scenario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, chirorob said: That is a lot of ammo They need it. They lost a lot of starters since January. Many holes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I heard theyre interested in McCarren I haven’t read that only the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If the Bills want to be in the top five of the draft, they can do so. If the Jets want to be in the top five of the draft, they can also do so. Yesterday you were saying the Bills wouldn’t be able to get into the top five at all because both of their picks were in the twenties. Today, they have a pick at 12. Things change. Most people would rather be playing with the Bills hand today than the Jets hand. Including you, considering you wouldn’t answer that very question before. Also, is Jamal Adams the Kris Bryant in your scenario? Come on...12 > 6 AND ='s them moving into the top 5? I much prefer the Jets' hand. Better draft position, more money, younger roster, cheaper roster....Literally all the things you're pretending the Vaunted Bills alredy have except money, which doesn't play into the draft and doesn't have real value anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BklynJetsFan85 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I would really really prefer Jets land Cousins, makes it easier to land top offensive FAs, and opens up options in draft big time. **** the bills. If we get Cousins - it doesn’t matter. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, SenorGato said: Come on...12 > 6 AND ='s them moving into the top 5? I much prefer the Jets' hand. Better draft position, more money, younger roster, cheaper roster....Literally all the things you're pretending the Bills alredy have except money, money being something that doesn't matter. Ah yes. All that money to throw at........Orleans Darkwa and Benson Mayowa. The League trembles at the buying power of The Central Bank of Florham Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Ah yes. All that money to throw at........Orleans Darkwa and Benson Mayowa. The League trembles at the buying power of The Central Bank of Florham Park. Lolno and what? Meanwhile that 12 pick lines them up for...?? So just so I'm clear....12 > or = to 5 and is >>>>> 6? Gold. Plus it came with a big WC game loss! Master stroke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, SenorGato said: Lolno and what? Meanwhile that 12 pick lines them up for...?? So just so I'm clear....12 > or = to 5 and is >>>>> 6? Gold. Plus it came with a big WC game loss! Master stroke! ^Unglued Gato is the best Gato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I haven’t read that only the other two. NOTHING out here about that Mick. I'm hearing that AJ is Denver's back up plan if they don't land Cousins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, SenorGato said: Come on...12 > 6 AND ='s them moving into the top 5? I much prefer the Jets' hand. Better draft position, more money, younger roster, cheaper roster....Literally all the things you're pretending the Vaunted Bills alredy have except money, which doesn't play into the draft and doesn't have real value anyway. I hate them with a passion but the Bills can easily move up to the top 5. Easier I think than we can. 12+22 would cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: If the Bills do that they’re ******* idiots. I remember Ditka trading the entire draft to move up and grab Hershel Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, YetiHigh5! said: I agree, after trading Tyrod, I suspect the Bills know that no one actually wants to play in Buffalo and they are going to try to trade up (maybe with the Browns at #4?) to get their QB. SERIOUSLY ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, SenorGato said: But doesn't beat 6, a future first, two top 50s, a top 75....I really wish we'd stop working so hard to make the Bills a thing. They're just in a better position to land the 4th best QB right now. If they aren't going to trade up further, what explanation do you have for them trading up to 12 in the blind? They're definitely not done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, T0mShane said: ^Unglued Gato is the best Gato. But your argument really boils down to 12 > 6 and >>> or = 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, gEYno said: If they aren't going to trade up further, what explanation do you have for them trading up to 12 in the blind? They're definitely not done. It wasn't blind but wholly predictable, which I did two days ago. Texans got to 12 for Watson with their 20s pick, that was about the ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, gEYno said: If they aren't going to trade up further, what explanation do you have for them trading up to 12 in the blind? They're definitely not done. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: They clearly have a plan in place and are implementing it. Three years later, and you still can't say this about the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: I remember Ditka trading the entire draft to move up and grab Hershel Walker. Ricky Williams Minnesota traded for walker. And neither Minnesota or NO won a championship but Dallas built a dynasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, gEYno said: Three years later, and you still can't say this about the Jets. I mean you can, just we choose to wallow in misery porn. I mean literally I just had a back and forth with someone trying to convince me that the 12th spot is better than the 6th spot for a trade up, that two top 50 picks are better than three for a trade up, and that having the most money has no value (a consistent insistence here for some reason). Edit: Not only that - all those not better things are better AND were an actual, well thought out, fully executed plan to get into the top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, SenorGato said: It wasn't blind but wholly predictable, which I did two days ago. Texans got to 12 for Watson with their 20s pick, that was about the ceiling. It is "blind" because they have no idea who is available at 12. Most times when a team trades to 12, they do it when 12 is on the clock. Not a month and a half before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, SenorGato said: I mean you can, just we choose to wallow in misery porn. I mean literally I just had a back and forth with someone trying to convince me that the 12th spot is better than the 6th spot for a trade up, that two top 50 picks are better than three for a trade up, and that having the most money has no value (a consistent insistence here for some reason). What is the Jets "plan?" Cousins or bust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetiHigh5! Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 HAHHA 10 minutes ago, gEYno said: What is the Jets "plan?" Cousins or bust? The $64 million ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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