TuscanyTile2 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I know many on here wanted Cousins but realistically he said he wanted $10M more per season to sign here. That would've meant $38M per year for (I assume) 3 years. And maybe he would've only done it if the contract were fully guaranteed. So Cousins wasn't realistic. It's possible one of Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield falls to #6. Certainly Saquon Barkley could get taken in the top 5. Possibly Chubb can as well? If not, Macc is probably going to have to get aggressive and trade up. Other GMs realize the situation Macc is in and they'll clearly use that to extract more in a trade. If Macc likes 1 QB more than the others (maybe Darnold?) then he needs to do whatever it takes to trade up to #1. It will be painful but at least we'll (hopefully) finally have a foundation for this team. I'm guessing it will cost us something like: #1 this year #1 next year Both #2's this year #3 next year However, we have the cap space to fill some holes. We can sign Jensen at C and maybe sign a TE and WR to give the draftee some protection and weapons. Maybe Macc can also make one of those Cleveland trades where we take on a bad contract for a 2nd round pick. That will at least help replenish next year's draft somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Here’s what Macc should do at this point: 6. New York Jets: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Macc Strategy From Here The implication that there's been any strategy whatsoever to this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Only way one of the top four QBs isn’t available at #6 is if both Indy and Cleveland trade out of the top five to QB hungry teams. Bills are announcing that they prefer Allen, so if they move up most fans here will be fine with that. Barkley, Nelson, Chubb, and Fitzpatrick are all potential top 5 guys. That said, I’d prefer for the Jets to move up to #3, especially if the Browns go Barkley #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I know many on here wanted Cousins but realistically he said he wanted $10M more per season to sign here. That would've meant $38M per year for (I assume) 3 years. And maybe he would've only done it if the contract were fully guaranteed. So Cousins wasn't realistic. It's possible one of Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield falls to #6. Certainly Saquon Barkley could get taken in the top 5. Possibly Chubb can as well? If not, Macc is probably going to have to get aggressive and trade up. Other GMs realize the situation Macc is in and they'll clearly use that to extract more in a trade. If Macc likes 1 QB more than the others (maybe Darnold?) then he needs to do whatever it takes to trade up to #1. It will be painful but at least we'll (hopefully) finally have a foundation for this team. I'm guessing it will cost us something like: #1 this year #1 next year Both #2's this year #3 next year However, we have the cap space to fill some holes. We can sign Jensen at C and maybe sign a TE and WR to give the draftee some protection and weapons. Maybe Macc can also make one of those Cleveland trades where we take on a bad contract for a 2nd round pick. That will at least help replenish next year's draft somewhat. I'm at the point as a Jets fan waiting decades for a franchise QB, that I'd pull the trigger on that, why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, slats said: Only way one of the top four QBs isn’t available at #6 is if both Indy and Cleveland trade out of the top five to QB hungry teams. Bills are announcing that they prefer Allen, so if they move up most fans here will be fine with that. Barkley, Nelson, Chubb, and Fitzpatrick are all potential top 5 guys. That said, I’d prefer for the Jets to move up to #3, especially if the Browns go Barkley #1. I absolutely think the Bills will trade into the top 5 and I wouldn't be at all surprised if another team traded into the top 5 as well. It's also a great year for teams to trade down if they're able to. They can get a ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Its just amazing to me that we are always on the outside looking in, always having to worry about other teams f&cking us, yet still being the one of the 2 or 3 worst teams in the NFL. Mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If I'm any team in front of us I would salvate at the chance to aquire the Jets 2018 1st rounder. That's possibly a top 5 pick. It would be a Jetssie thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: If I'm any team in front of us I would salvate at the chance to aquire the Jets 2018 1st rounder. That's possibly a top 5 pick. It would be a Jetssie thing to do. If we had a FQB in place then I could live with it. Of course we know there are no guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I know many on here wanted Cousins but realistically he said he wanted $10M more per season to sign here. That would've meant $38M per year for (I assume) 3 years. And maybe he would've only done it if the contract were fully guaranteed. So Cousins wasn't realistic. It's possible one of Darnold, Rosen, Allen, Mayfield falls to #6. Certainly Saquon Barkley could get taken in the top 5. Possibly Chubb can as well? If not, Macc is probably going to have to get aggressive and trade up. Other GMs realize the situation Macc is in and they'll clearly use that to extract more in a trade. If Macc likes 1 QB more than the others (maybe Darnold?) then he needs to do whatever it takes to trade up to #1. It will be painful but at least we'll (hopefully) finally have a foundation for this team. I'm guessing it will cost us something like: #1 this year #1 next year Both #2's this year #3 next year However, we have the cap space to fill some holes. We can sign Jensen at C and maybe sign a TE and WR to give the draftee some protection and weapons. Maybe Macc can also make one of those Cleveland trades where we take on a bad contract for a 2nd round pick. That will at least help replenish next year's draft somewhat. I don't think they are trading the number 1 pick. But that's still a awful lot to give up especially since we still have many holes to fill and we probably wont be a playoff team next year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He stays put and doesn’t give away this years draft and next years top five pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It’d be great if we didn’t sign Josh Mccown-a rental that barely budged our mediocrity high enough where we now have to mortgage two drafts tfrom move up the spot that’s rightdully ours based on our meager talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I don't think Cleveland trades either of their top picks and I believe they will select Barkley and Chubb or Fitzpatrick. In other words, no QB. No way Cleveland opts out of the opportunity to get 2 impact position players. They don't need depth. They need impact players. That said, it's very possible that Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield will be there at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 There is no doubt the top 4 qbs will be gone by 6. Browns take one, Giants take one, Colts trade out(Probably bills), Denver trades out(probably dolphins). Mac cant wait till 6. I think the colts is the spot to go to. We will trade up to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 Macc's starting QBs: Year 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick Year 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick Year 3: Josh McCown Year 4: Josh McCown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Here’s what Macc should do at this point: 6. New York Jets: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College I like Landry at 6 assuming the top three quarterbacks, Barkley, a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I like Landry at 6 assuming the top three quarterbacks, Barkley, and Ward are gone. Macstupid will take the guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Here’s what Macc should do at this point: 6. New York Jets: Harold Landry, OLB, Boston College I could think of 40 or 50 worst thing you could have said. Your growing as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Your growing as a person. You're growing as a planet. Hi-oh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I like Landry at 6 assuming the top three quarterbacks, Barkley, a I’d probably take Landry over Ward too at this point. CB is becoming a luxury position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I could think of 40 or 50 worst thing you could have said. Your growing as a person. Lots of self-reflection, looking inward, taking magnesium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 We are rolling with McCown and Bridgewater and loading up the defense, bitches. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, Grandy said: I'm at the point as a Jets fan waiting decades for a franchise QB, that I'd pull the trigger on that, why not? #safetieswinchampionships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 29 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: I don't think Cleveland trades either of their top picks and I believe they will select Barkley and Chubb or Fitzpatrick. In other words, no QB. No way Cleveland opts out of the opportunity to get 2 impact position players. They don't need depth. They need impact players. That said, it's very possible that Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield will be there at 6. Cleveland is going to select a qb most likely number one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, New York Mick said: He stays put and doesn’t give away this years draft and next years top five pick. yep and we go 7-9 and draft and linebacker in the first round next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 14, 2018 Author Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, peebag said: #safetieswinchampionships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, T0mShane said: I’d probably take Landry over Ward too at this point. CB is becoming a luxury position. Not when you don't have any it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, peebag said: yep and we go 7-9 and draft and linebacker in the first round next year. I was thinking 4 maybe 5 wins and a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscreen Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 This thread makes no sense to me? What would give the author of this thread the idea Mac actually has a plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, peebag said: Cleveland is going to select a qb most likely number one. They've lost for so so long. It's going to be hard to resist. Imagine adding Barkley to an O with Landry, Gordon, and Taylor, and pairing Chubb with Garrett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 59 minutes ago, slats said: Only way one of the top four QBs isn’t available at #6 is if both Indy and Cleveland trade out of the top five to QB hungry teams. Bills are announcing that they prefer Allen, so if they move up most fans here will be fine with that. Barkley, Nelson, Chubb, and Fitzpatrick are all potential top 5 guys. That said, I’d prefer for the Jets to move up to #3, especially if the Browns go Barkley #1. you don't think cleveland will take a qb?they got tyrod and the kid from nd. no great shakes with either. i can see them going qb at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, rangerous said: you don't think cleveland will take a qb?they got tyrod and the kid from nd. no great shakes with either. i can see them going qb at 4. Deshone Kizer? They traded him away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, nycdan said: Deshone Kizer? They traded him away. i must have blinked. actually i do remember. wasn't it the texans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeet Ulrich Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 1 minute ago, rangerous said: i must have blinked. actually i do remember. wasn't it the texans? Packers. Browns are going to take Barkley #1. They likely have a similar grade on all the Rd1 QBs and don't feel the need to take any of them at #1. Barkley would be gone by #4. It's not out of the realm of possibility they don't draft a QB at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 I am totally fine with missing out on Cousins. I think the record will reflect that the Jets tried, but did not offer stupid money. We should also remember that guaranteed contracts require money posted in escrow. What I would have expected is ONE veteran QB, for $10+mm-ish, planning on drafting a QB high, and rolling with the better of Petty or Hack. That would be a good foundation for the future. 2 veteran QBs means that they are afraid to tank again. Remember all the teams that tanked the first year with their new QB, and used the high pick to give their new QB a star player? MacBowles are still afraid of getting fired. I would have expected the Jets to be loading their roster with 25 year old players who can be part of the future. They would build the OL for their new QB. They would maybe find some 25 year old EDGE. Nothing. The 2018 strategy looks like 2017-be mediocre and quasi-competitive. This will end badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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