ftiz part deux

[kmnj]

so we follow the same plan that worked so well for us-we re new our jaq qb just like we did with Fitz that blue print worked so well the first time and  we announce him  starter lol-I dont think Jets will take a  qb and even worse Mac wont admit Hack was one of the worst picks going so we will waste a roster spot on him again this year.

[joewilly12]

Blame Woody/Chris Johnson,Mike Maccagnan,Todd Bowles until these faces change nothing changes here. 

4 years in a row of loser re-tread QB football. 

[jgb]

Just now, joewilly12 said:

Blame Woody/Chris Johnson,Mike Maccagnan,Todd Bowles until these faces change nothing changes here. 

4 years in a row of loser re-tread QB football. 

Agree. Never heard of several players at once refusing more money to play for a team. One guy wanting to go to his childhood favorite team ok fine but 3 or 4?

[LionelRichie]

3 minutes ago, kmnj said:

so we follow the same plan that worked so well for us-we re new our jaq qb just like we did with Fitz that blue print worked so well the first time and  we announce him  starter lol-I dont think Jets will take a  qb and even worse Mac wont admit Hack was one of the worst picks going so we will waste a roster spot on him again this year.

this is a new level of ineptitude from this team and front office.   The only reason I somewhat paid attention in '17 was the hope of '18 which is now gone IN MARCH - a new low for this franchise.    regardless of missing out on Cousins I simply can't understand how this team signs 2 vets in a single day - an FU to the entire fanbase who has been desperate for a franchise QB since Namath.   

 

[UntouchableCrew]

Nothing wrong with re-signing McCown as a bridge QB. He played well last year. Telling him he's the starter (if true) is idiotic though. Not sure why Bowles insists on naming starters months before training camp begins.

[UntouchableCrew]

1 minute ago, LionelRichie said:

this is a new level of ineptitude from this team and front office.   The only reason I somewhat paid attention in '17 was the hope of '18 which is now gone IN MARCH - a new low for this franchise.    regardless of missing out on Cousins I simply can't understand how this team signs 2 vets in a single day - an FU to the entire fanbase who has been desperate for a franchise QB since Namath.   

 

They're still going to draft a QB. A 39 year old and a project who hasn't played in two years both on one year deals isn't changing the long term move here. 

[joewilly12]

1 minute ago, LionelRichie said:

an FU to the entire fanbase who has been desperate for a franchise QB since Namath. 

The NY Jets do not understand the concept of the QB position.

[sciond]

7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Blame Woody/Chris Johnson,Mike Maccagnan,Todd Bowles until these faces change nothing changes here. 

4 years in a row of loser re-tread QB football. 

Obviously we have a culture issue...it's either them or some of the players we have/had

[shuler82]

I’m willing to wait until draft day to see the intent behind these moves. They pass on a QB in the first and it’s time to riot

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13 minutes ago, kmnj said:

so we follow the same plan that worked so well for us-we re new our jaq qb just like we did with Fitz that blue print worked so well the first time and  we announce him  starter lol-I dont think Jets will take a  qb and even worse Mac wont admit Hack was one of the worst picks going so we will waste a roster spot on him again this year.

We named Geno the starter in 2015 too. McCown will sit out preseason like last year and will likely be paid for each game he starts. The rookie will get every opportunity to beat him out.

[CrazyCarl40]

6 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

They're still going to draft a QB. A 39 year old and a project who hasn't played in two years both on one year deals isn't changing the long term move here. 

Willing to bet anything of personal significance on that? I wouldn’t be surprised to see them skip out completely and go McCown-Bridgewater-Hack. 

[KINGDIRK]

1 minute ago, shuler82 said:

I’m willing to wait until draft day to see the intent behind these moves. They pass on a QB in the first and it’s time to riot

Exactly. These two sentences should be this website's banner/tag lines until Draft Night.

[joewilly12]

Just now, bla bla bla said:

We named Geno the starter in 2015 too. McCown will sit out preseason like last year and will likely be paid for each game he starts. The rookie will get every opportunity to beat him out.

Highly doubt it with Todd Bowles as the HC, Hackenberg never took a regular season snap. 

[UntouchableCrew]

1 minute ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Willing to bet anything of personal significance on that? I wouldn’t be surprised to see them skip out completely and go McCown-Bridgewater-Hack. 

I'd bet $20 bucks they take a QB in the draft and almost certainly in the first two rounds.

I'd be surprised if Hackenberg is on a 53 man roster in 2018.

[The Crusher]

I hope this is all to make other teams think we aren’t interested in a  QB early. Prolly not. But a big brother can hope. Can’t he?

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5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Highly doubt it with Todd Bowles as the HC, Hackenberg never took a regular season snap. 

Hack got every opportunity to show any potential in preseason, the rookie and Bridgewater will get the same chance IMO. People like to say Bowles won't play a young QB but it would seem we played our best QB each of the last 3 years given what we have seen from Geno, Petty and Hack

[Gangrene]

Bowles/McCagnan likely learned their lesson when McCown went down and Petty gave his best Christian Hackenberg playing ball at the ocean impression. Despite us naysayers, Bowles talked confident going into the season but his expression once McCown went out told it all. Two fragile veterans give them insurance over one fragile veteran. In all likelyhood Petty is gone, Hackenberg is cut or traded for a conditional seventh and they draft a qb for the third roster spot. They should draft a qb at six or trade higher; with this front office, it could be anywhere.

[joewilly12]

2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Hack got every opportunity to show any potential in preseason, the rookie and Bridgewater will get the same chance IMO. People like to say Bowles won't play a young QB but it would seem we played our best QB each of the last 3 years given what we have seen from Geno, Petty and Hack

The 2017 season was lost and Hackenberg didn't even dress, it took McCown to get injured for Petty to play and once Petty stunk up the joint Hackenberg should have been on that damn field. Hackenberg wasn't given any opportunity. 

[Tinstar]

Last training camp the Jets did everything they could to give the starting QB job to Christian Hackenberg even thou Josh McCown had signed a 6mil 1 yr contract . To sit around and say that the coaching staff prefers to play the old vet instead of the youngster is a bold face lie, but why let facts get in the way of hate .

Exactly who plays a player who gives you a worse chance to win when you have a choice .  Hackenberg proved unable to protect himself last yr when given a shot and Petty proved exactly what many who were honest with themselves knew he was when he got his shot . 

I expect the same  or something similar this training camp because the Jets and any jet fan willing to be objective know exactly what Josh McCown is. What needs to be known is what Teddy Bridgewater is if he signs his deal and what the player that gets drafted has to offer .

Thus far, the jets have improved on Matt Forte with Crowell, Hack and Petty with Bridgewater if he signs, Claiborne with Johnson and Davis with Williamson . All before the draft and the team still have a ton of cap space . QB, Center, TE and Edge rusher still needs to be upgraded and the Jets have money and 3 picks in the top 50 of the draft .

Contrary to popular believe, the Jets are doing a fine job building a young team.  This organization needs to hit on a QB to bring it all together and that's why there will be 2 new prospects given an opportunity this season .    

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@joewilly12

Hack was putrid in the preseason, there is zero chance he performs better against live defenses. Being able to throw a ball accurately or calling out protections are absolutely traits you can see in practice. The only issue I had with not seeing Hack is it would have been interesting for me as a fan.

[Tinstar]

21 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Highly doubt it with Todd Bowles as the HC, Hackenberg never took a regular season snap. 

I loved the Hackenberg pick, and has been and continue to hope he works out even if somewhere else, but exactly when did Hackenberg earn the opportunity to be the starting QB of the NY Jets  ? 

[Philc1]

I’m shocked Macc didn’t give McCown $50 million guaranteed 

[Philc1]

45 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

 

@joewilly12

Hack was putrid in the preseason, there is zero chance he performs better against live defenses. Being able to throw a ball accurately or calling out protections are absolutely traits you can see in practice. The only issue I had with not seeing Hack is it would have been interesting for me as a fan.

How is Hack still on our roster?  Ditto for Petty 

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, bla bla bla said:

Hack got every opportunity to show any potential in preseason, the rookie and Bridgewater will get the same chance IMO. People like to say Bowles won't play a young QB but it would seem we played our best QB each of the last 3 years given what we have seen from Geno, Petty and Hack

good point.  and let's not forget that both fitz and mccown had career years with bowles as hc.  coincidence?  maybe.

[joewilly12]

Just now, Philc1 said:

How is Hack still on our roster?  Ditto for Petty 

Exactly cut his ass if he sucks that bad. 

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 minute ago, Philc1 said:

How is Hack still on our roster?  Ditto for Petty 

Because their is no financial benefit to cutting them yet. We just signed Mccown/Bridgewater and most think the jets will address QB in the top of the draft. Worst case scenario we will wait until the 2nd etc.. Either way, Hack and Petty are gone. Should Macc cut these guys today just to make you feel better about yourselves? 

[rangerous]

49 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

Last training camp the Jets did everything they could to give the starting QB job to Christian Hackenberg even thou Josh McCown had signed a 6mil 1 yr contract . To sit around and say that the coaching staff prefers to play the old vet instead of the youngster is a bold face lie, but why let facts get in the way of hate .

Exactly who plays a player who gives you a worse chance to win when you have a choice .  Hackenberg proved unable to protect himself last yr when given a shot and Petty proved exactly what many who were honest with themselves knew he was when he got his shot . 

I expect the same  or something similar this training camp because the Jets and any jet fan willing to be objective know exactly what Josh McCown is. What needs to be known is what Teddy Bridgewater is if he signs his deal and what the player that gets drafted has to offer .

Thus far, the jets have improved on Matt Forte with Crowell, Hack and Petty with Bridgewater if he signs, Claiborne with Johnson and Davis with Williamson . All before the draft and the team still have a ton of cap space . QB, Center, TE and Edge rusher still needs to be upgraded and the Jets have money and 3 picks in the top 50 of the draft .

Contrary to popular believe, the Jets are doing a fine job building a young team.  This organization needs to hit on a QB to bring it all together and that's why there will be 2 new prospects given an opportunity this season .    

the fans have to let this play out before getting out the pitchforks.  mccown's signing seems a little strange given that no other team was going after him.  the one criticism is they seem to be signing players who are coming off the ir.  these guys may come back but may not.

[joewilly12]

Just now, rangerous said:

the fans have to let this play out before getting out the pitchforks.  mccown's signing seems a little strange given that no other team was going after him.  the one criticism is they seem to be signing players who are coming off the ir.  these guys may come back but may not.

McCown is a nice guy great teammate bad QB proven NFL loser the Jets feel the need to try and resurrect these old bums, year 4 of this bullsh*t. 

[Philc1]

5 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Because their is no financial benefit to cutting them yet. We just signed Mccown/Bridgewater and most think the jets will address QB in the top of the draft. Worst case scenario we will wait until the 2nd etc.. Either way, Hack and Petty are gone. Should Macc cut these guys today just to make you feel better about yourselves? 

But they are eating up 2 roster spots.  I get the whole cut down to 53 by August but these guys are a waste of time and an embarrassment 

[MDL_JET]

1 hour ago, The Crusher said:

I hope this is all to make other teams think we aren’t interested in a  QB early. Prolly not. But a big brother can hope. Can’t he?

Maybe if we signed Keenum but I don't think signing McCown and Teddy to 1 year deals isn't exactly screaming "the Jets are set at QB". 

[JetsFanatic]

1 hour ago, kmnj said:

so we follow the same plan that worked so well for us-we re new our jaq qb just like we did with Fitz that blue print worked so well the first time and  we announce him  starter lol-I dont think Jets will take a  qb and even worse Mac wont admit Hack was one of the worst picks going so we will waste a roster spot on him again this year.

Totally different. McCown is not holding out for the entire off season; McCown was not named the opening day starter, he is the # 1 QB to start TC; the Jets also signed another veteran, Teddy Bridgewater; and will draft a QB in the first round.

They are not the same situation. 

[Philc1]

8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Exactly cut his ass if he sucks that bad. 

It really goes to the complacent dysfunctional culture of this franchise.  Could you imagine Belichick carrying 2 totally worthless qbs who lack any potential even as backups?

[Philc1]

8 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

Exactly cut his ass if he sucks that bad. 

It really goes to the complacent dysfunctional culture of this franchise.  Could you imagine Belichick carrying 2 totally worthless qbs who lack any potential even as backups?

[JoJoTownsell1]

Just now, Philc1 said:

But they are eating up 2 roster spots.  I get the whole cut down to 53 by August but these guys are a waste of time and an embarrassment 

Thankfully our GM, for all his issues, doesn't worry about "embarrassments." We are signing players left and right despite Hack being on our roster. 

[Villain The Foe]

2 hours ago, kmnj said:

so we follow the same plan that worked so well for us-we re new our jaq qb just like we did with Fitz that blue print worked so well the first time and  we announce him  starter lol.  Mac wont admit Hack was one of the worst picks going so we will waste a roster spot on him again this year.

This is all I've been saying. 

Its obvious that the motive isnt to build a team and be competitive but to make money. 

Looking back I cant even blame Belichick for quitting via a f'ing napkin rather then to coach under this ownership.

I've tried to give woody 5he benefit of the doubt with this regime after folks requested Macc/Bowles be fired after the 2016 season though the regime did what most fans requested. But when i seen them sign McCown last year i knew it was a joke. At the end of the season we win 5 games and now im expecting the firing to occur because you cant do 2 rebuilds with the same regime that showed you nothing the first time. 

To see them not be fired as well as to witness the past 24 hours is a slap in the face of every Jets fan. 

How many times must you do the Fitz/McCown thing. Whats the definition of insanity Macc?