I like the Jets QB situation

[kevinc855]

While I was originally on the Kirk train he said no and no means no so plan b 

1) bringing back josh makes sense, the locker room loves the guy and he is going to basically be paid to be a quarterbacks coach and lock room leader. 

2) brdgewater makes sense. When we draft our qb we have given the opportunity for a solid backup plan with these two or worse if the rookie qb doesn’t pan/ gets an injury like wants out maybe bridgewater can develop. He was pretty solid beforehand he got hurt.

3) we are Gona draft one of the top 4 and it’s Gona be a whole lot cheaper allowing us to plug holes. I feel a trade to 4 makes the most sense, 3 if we fall in love with one. 

Hang in there fam. Trust in the mac

 

[BCJet]

Just now, kevinc855 said:

While I was originally on the Kirk train he said no and no means no so plan b 

1) bringing back josh makes sense, the locker room loves the guy and he is going to basically be paid to be a quarterbacks coach and lock room leader. 

2) brdgewater makes sense. When we draft our qb we have given the opportunity for a solid backup plan with these two or worse if the rookie qb doesn’t pan/ gets an injury like wants out maybe bridgewater can develop. He was pretty solid beforehand he got hurt.

3) we are Gona draft one of the top 4 and it’s Gona be a whole lot cheaper allowing us to plug holes. I feel a trade to 4 makes the most sense, 3 if we fall in love with one. 

Hang in there fam. Trust in the mac

 

I do too.

I put this in another thread, but its the whole structure of the position now that makes sense.

Bowles and Mac basically sat McCown for 75% of Training camp giving every rep possible to Petty and Hack - sadly they both suck more then anyone possibly imagined.

They are going to do the exact same thing this year.  McCown will "go into TC as the starter", running the first team for a week or so to shake off some rust.  Then they will turn TC and the preseason over to TB and hopefully Mayfield to battle it out.  2 guys who are VERY VERY VERY different from Petty and Hack.  The best guy will win the job and the team will have the most expensive deactivated QB in the league.

That scenario is not far fetched, and is likely the only thing that will keep Mac employed

[Grandy]

3 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

While I was originally on the Kirk train he said no and no means no so plan b 

1) bringing back josh makes sense, the locker room loves the guy and he is going to basically be paid to be a quarterbacks coach and lock room leader. 

2) brdgewater makes sense. When we draft our qb we have given the opportunity for a solid backup plan with these two or worse if the rookie qb doesn’t pan/ gets an injury like wants out maybe bridgewater can develop. He was pretty solid beforehand he got hurt.

3) we are Gona draft one of the top 4 and it’s Gona be a whole lot cheaper allowing us to plug holes. I feel a trade to 4 makes the most sense, 3 if we fall in love with one. 

Hang in there fam. Trust in the mac

 

Yeah, now that everything is coming together, I like where it's headed. We're going to have our top guy, and some security with it.

[JiFtheOracle]

5 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

While I was originally on the Kirk train he said no and no means no so plan b 

1) bringing back josh makes sense, the locker room loves the guy and he is going to basically be paid to be a quarterbacks coach and lock room leader. 

2) brdgewater makes sense. When we draft our qb we have given the opportunity for a solid backup plan with these two or worse if the rookie qb doesn’t pan/ gets an injury like wants out maybe bridgewater can develop. He was pretty solid beforehand he got hurt.

3) we are Gona draft one of the top 4 and it’s Gona be a whole lot cheaper allowing us to plug holes. I feel a trade to 4 makes the most sense, 3 if we fall in love with one. 

Hang in there fam. Trust in the mac

 

1.  The Jets arent paying Josh McCown 10 mill to be a QB coach. He's your starter, again.

2.  Bridgewater was meh before his injury, he's a complete unknown long shot at this point.  

3.  What if all the top 4 are gone before #6?

4. Jet up, bitches! 

[Thai Jet]

I too am quite pleased with the QB position on the Jets. Both Josh & TB are on one year deals . We draft a young hot QB prospect and we don't have to rush him into the fray. He'll learn behind the other two meanwhile we can see how TB turns out. Low risk/ high rewards moves by Macc. 

[Thai Jet]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

1.  The Jets arent paying Josh McCown 10 mill to be a QB coach. He's your starter, again.

2.  Bridgewater was meh before his injury, he's a complete unknown long shot at this point.  

3.  What if all the top 4 are gone before #6?

4. Jet up, bitches! 

Looks like you're in the minority so far beatch. lol

[Sarge4Tide]

I'm not so sure the Jets will draft a QB at 6 anymore.  Maybe they should, if the one they like is there, maybe they will. But I just don't see it as the most likely scenario right now.

[T0mShane]

Kev-o is good with it so we should all be good with it,, is my takeaway

[JiFtheOracle]

2 minutes ago, Thai Jet said:

Looks like you're in the minority so far beatch. lol

Minority of what? 

[Beerfish]

The issue is the coach.  That is the issue.

What should happen.  Bridgewater start, Mccown 2nd string unti  half way though the year at which time the rookie moves up the ladder a notch.

If Bridgewater looks good he comes back and is the starter next year and the young guy learns again or beats out Bridgewater, mccown is gone.

What will happen:

McCown will be named starter immediately and play most of the year.  Bridgewater will only play mop up duty and we will have no clue whether he can play or not, young Qb will have cob webs on him.  Next year we have zero clue about Bridgewater or the new guy.

[kevinc855]

4 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

I'm not so sure the Jets will draft a QB at 6 anymore.  Maybe they should, if the one they like is there, maybe they will. But I just don't see it as the most likely scenario right now.

They are drafting a qb 

[joewilly12]

[afjetsfan]

The only way our QB situation works out is if the QB we draft becomes a franchise QB.  I think Teddy is great guy, so is Josh, but they are not top-tier franchise QBs, so our QB situation rides on getting it done in the Draft.  If Macc nails a future franchise QB in the draft, all will be forgiven.

We talk about being 2 to 3 years away from contending, but if Macc does his job right, we should be able to contend this year. If he doesn't do it right, we'll be rebuilding until he is fired only to start the rebuild again with a new GM.

 

[PS17]

5 minutes ago, JiF said:

Minority of what? 

GFY troll 

[pointman]

You needed this to be its own thread. Why? Yooz important.

[pointman]

p.s. F Cousins.

[RoadFan]

The situation is only OK if they draft a QB at pick #6 or higher.

If they f*ck around with another 2nd round QB... this will never end.

[Sperm Edwards]

8 minutes ago, Thai Jet said:

Looks like you're in the minority so far beatch. lol

As were the many (ultimately correct) people who said this same thing a year ago.

You don't pay a QB $10m to sit on the bench and be a QBC. You sign him to a contract that has a job title of QBC if you want him to be a QBC.

[UntouchableCrew]

I'm fine with the plan as long as we draft Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield. 

If we draft defense I am less into the plan.

[afjetsfan]

Just now, UntouchableCrew said:

I'm fine with the plan as long as we draft Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield. 

If we draft defense I am less into the plan.

I'd throw Allen in the mix.  If we draft Defense then we know Macc has no plan.

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, Sperm Edwards said:

As were the many (ultimately correct) people who said this same thing a year ago.

You don't pay a QB $10m to sit on the bench and be a QBC. You sign him to a contract that has a job title of QBC if you want him to be a QBC.

if an average salary for a starting qb is around 20M, mccown is being paid to start half the season until the public swell of resentment leaves bowles no other choice but to start mayfield.  

[JiFtheOracle]

4 minutes ago, PS17 said:

GFY troll 

I didnt give my opinion of the QB situation, just stated facts. And this entire position is predicated on the Jets actually taking a QB at #6, which I doubt happens. 

[JetFaninMI]

Yeah I guess its okay. Don't see why they needed both McCown and Bridgewater but it is was it is. Maybe they draft a QB in the 1st but I'm thinking they might not now. Who knows? All you can do is wait it out. I personally think we are fukked but I'm willing to wait and see.

[PS17]

Just now, JiF said:

I didnt give my opinion of the QB situation, just stated facts. And this entire position is predicated on the Jets actually taking a QB at #6, which I doubt happens. 

I'm channeling my inner Thai Jet. (I agree with you) 

[peebag]

26 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

While I was originally on the Kirk train he said no and no means no so plan b 

1) bringing back josh makes sense, the locker room loves the guy and he is going to basically be paid to be a quarterbacks coach and lock room leader. 

2) brdgewater makes sense. When we draft our qb we have given the opportunity for a solid backup plan with these two or worse if the rookie qb doesn’t pan/ gets an injury like wants out maybe bridgewater can develop. He was pretty solid beforehand he got hurt.

3) we are Gona draft one of the top 4 and it’s Gona be a whole lot cheaper allowing us to plug holes. I feel a trade to 4 makes the most sense, 3 if we fall in love with one. 

Hang in there fam. Trust in the mac

 

Of course you do Woody!

[Thai Jet]

11 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

As were the many (ultimately correct) people who said this same thing a year ago.

You don't pay a QB $10m to sit on the bench and be a QBC. You sign him to a contract that has a job title of QBC if you want him to be a QBC.

Josh and TB are bridge QB's and insurance policies. If TB can pick up where he was before getting hurt that's a tremendous bonus. Then we could sign him long term and bid Josh farewell after the season. Meanwhile we'd have a young , talented QB to groom. We have to get a stud QB in the 1st round.

[Pac]

Josh McCown is the lowest paid "starting" QB in the league not on a rookie deal.  

This notion that 10 mill makes him unbenchable is absurd.

 

[JiFtheOracle]

Just now, Pac said:

Josh McCown is the lowest paid "starting" QB in the league not on a rookie deal.  

This notion that 10 mill makes him unbenchable is absurd.

 

[Thai Jet]

26 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

I'm not so sure the Jets will draft a QB at 6 anymore.  Maybe they should, if the one they like is there, maybe they will. But I just don't see it as the most likely scenario right now.

This is still gonna be a touchy deal. I feel we HAVE to get one of the top 4 QB's for all of this to work. Do we stand pat at #6 and pray one falls to us ? Do we move up to #4? Do we draft a tier 2 QB in round #2 ? All these questions still remain.

[bla bla bla]

32 minutes ago, JiF said:

1.  The Jets arent paying Josh McCown 10 mill to be a QB coach. He's your starter, again.

2.  Bridgewater was meh before his injury, he's a complete unknown long shot at this point.  

3.  What if all the top 4 are gone before #6?

4. Jet up, bitches! 

1 - last year McCown was paid per start, I could definitely see a similar deal. It doesn't really bother me that he's the starter considering his injury history. We'll still get to see Bridgewater vs Rookie because McCown won't play in preseason just like this past year.

2 - Teddy was only brought in to make sure we weren't forced to play a rookie if he's not ready when's mcCown eventually gets knocked out. For the cost I'm fine with that, if he plays well then you swing him for a pick, if not then it's not really a big loss

3 - he said trade up to 3 or 4

 

[JohnnyLV]

24 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

The issue is the coach.  That is the issue.

What should happen.  Bridgewater start, Mccown 2nd string unti  half way though the year at which time the rookie moves up the ladder a notch.

If Bridgewater looks good he comes back and is the starter next year and the young guy learns again or beats out Bridgewater, mccown is gone.

What will happen:

McCown will be named starter immediately and play most of the year.  Bridgewater will only play mop up duty and we will have no clue whether he can play or not, young Qb will have cob webs on him.  Next year we have zero clue about Bridgewater or the new guy.

If people dont see this as the truth I am convinced they have their head in the sand. I am not convinced we choose QB RD1, maybe we pick a Lauletta, Falk or White. I look at the moves and wonder if Bowles has more personnel say than Mac

[Thai Jet]

5 minutes ago, Pac said:

Josh McCown is the lowest paid "starting" QB in the league not on a rookie deal.  

This notion that 10 mill makes him unbenchable is absurd.

 

Yup The Bears had no problem benching Mike Glennon and he was making a lot more $$ than Josh.

[RedBeardedSavage]

42 minutes ago, kevinc855 said:

3) we are Gona draft one of the top 4 and it’s Gona be a whole lot cheaper allowing us to plug holes. I feel a trade to 4 makes the most sense, 3 if we fall in love with one. 

Hang in there fam. Trust in the mac

 

 

So long as we do that (and my top 4 consists of Jackson instead of Allen), I'll be content.

"Trust in the mac" should not be your closer, btw - it makes me doubt your judgment. 

[Thai Jet]

20 minutes ago, PS17 said:

I'm channeling my inner Thai Jet. (I agree with you) 

[JiFtheOracle]

It's almost like, we havent seen this twice before.  Or we're choosing to close our eyes really hard and act like it didnt happen so it cant happen again.