jetsons Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: For those who are already drunk and want to boot-and-rally, look at a Jeremiah’s response to the dude who says “what no rosen” I agree with MIchael Salfino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, pointman said: You clearly don't remember Sanchez. He had the balls to wipe snot on Brunell AND eat hot dogs. Don't neg me. I are joking. He took us to back to back AFC Championship games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, K Clue said: I love this move not only was it smart, it pissed my friend off whose a Bills fan. Today was a good day!! Bills fans on their forum are freaking. 60% of them are crying because we beat them to the punch. 20% of them are saying “It’s the Jets, they’ll botch the pick anyway.” and the other 20% still believe they get to #2 its pretty great. this could of easily been us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, UKPanda said: So what if the Browns (knowing the Giants want Barkley, if they do) take him at #1, the Giants then take Nelson at #2. Who do we take at #3 because the Browns then still get a top 2 QB at #4? Do we still go Rosen or do we go Darnold? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Scoop24 said: It’s not that far fetched . His arm talent is legit . He has to be coached up no doubt but maybe Bates is up for that challenge . He has big arm talent. So does Rosen. Did you see his combine throw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: He took us to back to back AFC Championship games. Thanks. I almost forget. Was barely alive during that long ago time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Bills fans on their forum are freaking. 60% of them are crying because we beat them to the punch. 20% of them are saying “It’s the Jets, they’ll botch the pick anyway.” and the other 10% still believe they get to #2 its pretty great. this could of easily been us. I think the Bills will get either to #2 or #4. They kind of have to. Credit to Macc for getting in the top 4 first. Had the Bills traded up with the Colts, we'd be over a barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Let me ask you this... Would you take Allen at #3 if he wasn’t, let’s say, the next Elway or Big Ben but essentially...Cam Newton but without the headaches? Big bodied, super athletic guy with an absolute cannon who has the ability to carry an offense on his back...but completes around 58% of his passes and might have a 3 pick game here or there? Ask most people around the league and they would give you an unequivocal “yes”. I mean, you just described every QB bust in history: iffy statistical profile, but size! arm! athletic! I watched Allen a few times this year and had to change the channel each time. He was legit non-competitive against Iowa. Every QB can make highlight reel plays, but the ones who succeed in the NFL murder you on third and six. I’m not saying that Allen is guaranteed to be terrible. I’m just saying that he’s going to surprise the world if he turns out to be any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, jetsons said: I agree with MIchael Salfino. If we took mayfield ahead of rosen or darnold i'll be pretty upset, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: I mean, you just described every QB bust in history: iffy statistical profile, but size! arm! athletic! I watched Allen a few times this year and had to change the channel each time. He was legit non-competitive against Iowa. Every QB can make highlight reel plays, but the ones who succeed in the NFL murder you on third and six. I’m not saying that Allen is guaranteed to be terrible. I’m just saying that he’s going to surprise the world if he turns out to be any good. I would much rather stake my job as gm on mayfield than allen. And i think the main reason mccags did this trade was because after seeing mayfield's pro day it was the final confirmation he needed that the top 3 guys were all ok. I actually think allen could slide out of the top 6. Darnold/Rosen/mayfield/barkley/minka or Chubb/chubb/Nelson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, prime21 said: If Barkley is there at 3 then ask Cleveland for a 2nd or 3 rd pick to swap. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app That only works if there's a risk we're going to trade the pick to someone else. We have no leverage because they obviously would know we aren't losing out on our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPanda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 That only works if there's a risk we're going to trade the pick to someone else. We have no leverage because they obviously would know we aren't losing out on our QB.Or, we speak to Denver and see if they’re interested in Barkley knowing Browns already got a QB. Only danger then is someone comes into 4 back in front and we shoot ourselves in the foot. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: I would much rather stake my job as gm on mayfield than allen. And i think the main reason mccags did this trade was because after seeing mayfield's pro day it was the final confirmation he needed that the top 3 guys were all ok. I actually think allen could slide out of the top 6. Darnold/Rosen/mayfield/barkley/minka or Chubb/chubb/Nelson. I’m with you on this. If Mayfield fails, you can at least say you drafted the Heisman winner with all the gaudy numbers. If you miss on Allen, you have zero excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If we took mayfield ahead of rosen or darnold i'll be pretty upset, I hear ya... If we took Rosen ahead of Mayfield I'b be upset... I prefer Mayfield but if we took Darnold I can live w/it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: I think he's over-thinking it. They just like their chances at 3 of getting one of two QBs that they really like. God, I hope not....that there are only 2 QBs Macc likes and this only increases his chances of a pick he likes vice ensures it. If it only increases the chances, that's a LOT to give up. Knowing Macc as a BPA guy who usually sticks to his board, I'm betting he sat and looked at his board and saw that between #1-#6 there were 3 QBs in that list of 6 players which when combined with our dire need for a QB, mandated he remove the chance that all 3 QBs would be gone by pick #6. If he was gonna take one of those 3 QBs at #6 regardless IF they were there, the risk of missing out on one of them was too great to have them all gone. This trade to #3 ensures he gets at least one of them, and does increase his chances of getting the better of his ranked QBs...but most importantly, he guarantees he gets someone at #3 he was left 'hoping' made it to #6 before the trade. To trade all that draft capital to get to #3 if he only wanted one of 2 QBs who may go 1 and 2? Doubt he'd do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: I’m with you on this. If Mayfield fails, you can at least say you drafted the Heisman winner with all the gaudy numbers. If you miss on Allen, you have zero excuses. I can't see mccagnan taking allen after seeing how much of a long shot hackenberg actually was to pan out. And i think mayfield may be higher on their board than #3. I wouldn't be surprised if they take him over one of the two other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetswin Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is gigantic for the Jets. After not blowing the bankroll on Cousins the team's defense is hugely improved, their own version of the QB Whisperer who actually plays is back, and a potential solid backup in Bridge is on board. We, as fans suffering for decades without a QB to hang our hat have a month from now to look forward to. We should be able to further improve the run game by drafting Rashaad Penny in the third and fill out othr needs through the later rounds and the balance of free agency. A great day to be a Jet fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This is the best franchise move in 30 + years. What a great day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Let me ask you this... Would you take Allen at #3 if he wasn’t, let’s say, the next Elway or Big Ben but essentially...Cam Newton without the headaches? Big bodied, super athletic guy with an absolute cannon who has the ability to carry an offense on his back...but completes around 58% of his passes and might have a 3 pick game here or there? Ask most people around the league and they would give you an unequivocal “yes”. Cam Newton is giving you 500+ rushing yards and 6+ TDs - Allen isn’t coming close to that and would become a 3 and out nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Jets like Mayfield and Rosen. This deal means they will get 1 of 2 guys they like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, SouthernJet said: Jets like Mayfield and Rosen. This deal means they will get 1 of 2 guys they like. We know this how other than pure speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, SouthernJet said: Jets like Mayfield and Rosen. This deal means they will get 1 of 2 guys they like. I will take either guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: If Giants take a QB and Jets take one, jets better get it right because you can only imagine the comparisons from Day 1. Not too worried about it. The Giants aren't anything that matters. They were supposed to be sooo good last season, and fell flat on their faces. And they broke Eli's streak, to start Geno Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If we took mayfield ahead of rosen or darnold i'll be pretty upset, See I agree with you and I actually think Mayfield has a chance to be good...but man..Rosen is absolutely the guy you pick. Head and shoulders the better passer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, UKPanda said: So what if the Browns (knowing the Giants want Barkley, if they do) take him at #1, the Giants then take Nelson at #2. Who do we take at #3 because the Browns then still get a top 2 QB at #4? Do we still go Rosen or do we go Darnold? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app If Barkley is gone at 1. Giants either take darnold or trade down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 hours ago, SR24 said: \ This ? has been around the block! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: Soooooo.....hacks gone???? Maybe probably. You know whos definitely gone? Petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Heres what I say brother Jets fans Happy St.Patricks Day and Happy New York Jets Day. Drink up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: I can't see mccagnan taking allen after seeing how much of a long shot hackenberg actually was to pan out. And i think mayfield may be higher on their board than #3. I wouldn't be surprised if they take him over one of the two other guys. The scary part is that every time an NFL guy is asked about Allen, they rave about him. Bart Scott and David Diehl, for instance, think he’s the best player in the draft, so they’re seeing something that the analytics people aren’t. Macc is a dimwit scout, so he might be seeing things the Bart Scott way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: Jets like Mayfield and Rosen. This deal means they will get 1 of 2 guys they like. Maybe. What if clev takes mayfield. Giants or whoever trades up takes Rosen. We take darnold I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If the Giants go QB, have they been heavily linked to anyone other than Rosen? Highly doubt they take Mayfield, and have not heard and large interest in Darnold, or do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Browns are taking a QB which one is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: The scary part is that every time an NFL guy is asked about Allen, they rave about him. Bart Scott and David Diehl, for instance, think he’s the best player in the draft, so they’re seeing something that the analytics people aren’t. Macc is a dimwit scout, so he might be seeing things the Bart Scott way. Hopefully 1) mccagnan learned something about qbs from hack and petty (i think he did, it's why he brought in bridgewater b/c at least he can execute a pass play even with one leg) and 2) if mayfield were an inch taller people would be comparing him more to farve than Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, NYJCAP2 said: If the Giants go QB, have they been heavily linked to anyone other than Rosen? Highly doubt they take Mayfield, and have not heard and large interest in Darnold, or do they? If the giants go qb yes i think it's Rosen. Which would mean the jets get darnold or mayfield. I've written this in other threads, i don't think the giants would take a rb or g at 2 and i think the jets acted today b/c they understood the giants were staying at 2. I think the biggest question is, who will cleveland take? They could take darnold, allen or even mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, Phillyjet said: Totally agree... I think Allen is going earlier. One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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