greenwave81 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigO said: If we don’t get Darnold or Rosen, this trade is mindless. Does Mac know something no one else does? I really hope so. Did Cleveland tip their hand and let Crowley go knowing Barkley would be his replacement? Is Barkley more valuable to them than Darnold or Rosen? So many intangibles here. Is Mac thoroughly convinced one of Darnold or Rosen will be there? Is he that confident of Mayfield to take him at 3 should the top two QB’s go? Obviously Mac was petrified that another team OR two would leap frog us and take the top 4 QB’s by the time we pick at 6. The only way this trade makes sense is if the Browns or Giants take Barkley leaving us with Darnold or Rosen. Of course other scenarios can come into play like the Bills moving up to 2. Bottom line - either we get Darnold or Rosen or this trade was a head scratcher. I will not be a happy camper if we end up with Mayfield after giving up 3 2’s to move up 3 spots. Will the risk be worth the reward? Guess we'll see...but, the trade isn't mindless if Macc had at least 3 QBs that he would have taken at #6 if available and been happy about it. This trade guarantees he gets one of them and increases the odds he gets to pick amongst the three for who he prefers more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Josh Rosen will be the greatest Jewish Football player ever since Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: Josh Rosen will be the greatest Jewish Football player ever since Jesus Jesus played football? In those shoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Just glad Macc finally, FINALLY displayed some balls today. He was going to botch all those second round picks anyway. Thank God we dodged the Baker Mayfield disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, pointman said: Jesus played football? In those shoes? Tough to be better than God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I can't get over this haha this was the best thing that could have happen. For the price of Sheldon and two 2nd round picks we will be selecting one of the top QBs while also cock blocking the Bills. #BigDickMac side note - I've said this before but I think the NFL wants Mayfield on the Jets. He is the most polarizing player going to a team that has been starved for a QB for half a century. They would be salivating over the rating boost this will give them. I'll stand by Browns - Darnold, Giants - Rosen, Jets - Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, greenwave81 said: Guess we'll see...but, the trade isn't mindless if Macc had at least 3 QBs that he would have taken at #6 if available and been happy about it. This trade guarantees he gets one of them and increases the odds he gets to pick amongst the three for who he prefers more. We’re going to end up with Allen or ROSEn only thing is Macc now has to figure out how to get some friggin Nfl Caliber WRs and TE on the roster since we have none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Apparently LaCAnfora and Peter King are saying that a lot of other teams besides the Jets believe the Giants are taking Barkley. So this is either the greatest smokescreen ever done or their taking Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I can't get over this haha this was the best thing that could have happen. For the price of Sheldon and two 2nd round picks we will be selecting one of the top QBs while also cock blocking the Bills. #BigDickMac side note - I've said this before but I think the NFL wants Mayfield on the Jets. He is the most polarizing player going to a team that has been starved for a QB for half a century. They would be salivating over the rating boost this will give them. I'll stand by Browns - Darnold, Giants - Rosen, Jets - Mayfield Mayfield was going to be a bust here. Allen’s issues are fixable and Rosen looks like an Aaron Rodgers type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: We’re going to end up with Allen or ROSEn only thing is Macc now has to figure out how to get some friggin Nfl Caliber WRs and TE on the roster since we have none TE's we are good Leggett,Sterling rising stars especially Sterling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: Apparently LaCAnfora and Peter King are saying that a lot of other teams besides the Jets believe the Giants are taking Barkley. So this is either the greatest smokescreen ever done or their taking Barkley We’re drafting Allen or Rosen whoever is leftover at 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadetree Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Personally, I wanted Mayfield. I guess that dream is dead. The other 3 don't excite me, but draft one of them they must. Accuracy is king in the NFL...which one is the most accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: TE's we are good Leggett,Sterling rising stars especially Sterling. SCrubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Mayfield is going to be a bust here. Allen’s issues are fixable and Rosen looks like an Aaron Rodgers type What makes you think Allen is so good? And don't tell me either because how far he can throw the ball or how he looks with his shirt of in the weight room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I pray that we draft either Allen or Rosen Either Rosen, Allen or Darnold is gonna be there. Mike, I taking every word back, you f___in' genius. Bowles, still a moron. But Big Picture, he's here for another season at most. And then any coach who's worth a damn available next January is gonna WANT TO BE HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: Yikes. Last time we traded up this early for our guy they had to settle on Robertson because the board didn't fall the right way. I truly hope that Rosen or Darnold are there at three because , imo, Mayfield and Allen would be there at 6! Don't feel this way at all - Mayfield or Allen would have been gone via trade. 4 QBs in the top 5 is a real possibility if you figure on trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Shadetree said: Personally, I wanted Mayfield. I guess that dream is dead. The other 3 don't excite me, but draft one of them they must. Accuracy is king in the NFL...which one is the most accurate? Why give up on Mayfield? We are high on him and as time passes, and the more we see of him the better he gets. He is very much in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Untouchable said: How many QB’s are there in the NFL since Fran Tarkenton who have succeeded at 6’1 or shorter? Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, and...Mike Vick? Doug Flutie? Jeff Garcia? Case Keenum? People can love Mayfield’s grit and passion all day. Hey, I’m a fan of it myself. But the odds are certainly stacked against him. And that’s just pertaining to his stature. Never mind that the kid can come off as an emotional cripple (grabbing his dick and talking to the opposing team and then breaking down in tears apologizing for it 24 hours later), has shown a propensity to be a dumbass off the field, and only has experience with the simplest, barebones passing concepts during his time with Oklahoma and Texas Tech. Meanwhile the biggest knock on Allen is that even at his peak he probably won’t be a 65% completion guy. Different NFL today - easier to succeed today with all the moving in the pocket. Do you really think an inch and a half makes a big difference? Scanning the field and being accurate is much more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberjet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 This means Jets are comfortable with 3 of the 4 qbs. It even gives them potential to trade down if there are surprises in picks #1 and #2. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Screw running backs. How many great teams in the last 15-20 years have needed a RB? Meanwhile all the best running backs like LT, Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson etc are ringless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, pointman said: Why give up on Mayfield? We are high on him and as time passes, and the more we see of him the better he gets. He is very much in play. Nauseating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If we trade the farm just to draft drunken Shorty Mayfield over Rosen or Allen f this franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: I understand that. But remember what happened with Hackenberg. Macc attended Hackenberg's pro day before picking him. So why would he break that concept this time? Simple. The Colts might have called and said, "Hey Macc, we have Buffalo on the other line, what you wanna do"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: People are trying to talk themselves into this move somehow making it less likely they go 1-2 than before when it actually made it more likely. Well I certainly am not 'talking' myself into anything. I've already said that if the jets get darnold or rosen then this trade up is great, if we don't it has the potential to be a huge error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: If we trade the farm just to draft drunken Shorty Mayfield over Rosen or Allen f this franchise lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: If we trade the farm just to draft drunken Shorty Mayfield over Rosen or Allen f this franchise I have a feeling Browns are taking Baker #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: Well I certainly am not 'talking' myself into anything. I've already said that if the jets get darnold or rosen then this trade up is great, if we don't it has the potential to be a huge error. I'm agreeing with you. It looks like we just traded for the third pick in a two-quarterback draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazy8ball Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Why is everyone down on Allen? Rosen and Darnold make me nervous due to the fact they always played in pretty much perfect weather at USC and UCLA. Allen can at least handle the cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, Beerfish said: All i want to hear is one of the top two teams either take a non Qb or mayfield or allen. That is all i want to hear then we get either rosen or darnold and I will be fist pumping. What is this, the 87th post where youve said you want no part of Allen or Mayfield? LOL, we get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Jazy8ball said: Why is everyone down on Allen? Rosen and Darnold make me nervous due to the fact they always played in pretty much perfect weather at USC and UCLA. Allen can at least handle the cold He has not displayed accuracy, he did not do enough in a weaker college conference. And to be honest the hackenburg factor is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: He has not displayed accuracy, he did not do enough in a weaker college conference. And to be honest the hackenburg factor is there. Don't forget his QBR, his lack of TDs, his relatively high INTs in comparison to small TDs, and his having only one productive year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: What is this, the 87th post where youve said you want no part of Allen or Mayfield? LOL, we get it Quit dogging me dawg. put me on ignore and ave us both some band width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jazy8ball said: Why is everyone down on Allen? Rosen and Darnold make me nervous due to the fact they always played in pretty much perfect weather at USC and UCLA. Allen can at least handle the cold Because he was a bad quarterback in college, and bad college QBs never become good NFL QBs. Jet fans are obviously even more wary than most because we recently drafted a bad college QB who, wouldn't you know it, is so bad he literally can't get on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: Quit dogging me dawg. put me on ignore and ave us both some band width. Its 2018. If you're being dogged on bandwidth, its time to switch providers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, TeddEY said: ITS HAPPENING!!! ITS HAPPENING!!! Didn't know you changed your username again, lol. Fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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