Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I have a feeling Browns are taking Baker #1 Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, pointman said: Its 2018. If you're being dogged on bandwidth, its time to switch providers. our isp's here are greedy ftards that would charge you double for 'better speed' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If you're actually complaining about this today... what the hell is wrong with you? Like, seriously, get some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: Because he was a bad quarterback in college, and bad college QBs never become good NFL QBs. Jet fans are obviously even more wary than most because we recently drafted a bad college QB who, wouldn't you know it, is so bad he literally can't get on the field. Allen’s accuracy issues actually can be fixed he needs to finesse his throws more instead of trying to rifle in everything Allen looked really good in the senior bowl — unlike hero of the drunken millennials Baker Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Integrity28 said: That was the smart move even before trading up. But we have Todd friggin bowls as hc. Mccown will play until he gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 18 minutes ago, Philc1 said: We’re going to end up with Allen or ROSEn only thing is Macc now has to figure out how to get some friggin Nfl Caliber WRs and TE on the roster since we have none Not to mention an OL to keep the QB uprgight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Mayfield was going to be a bust here. Allen’s issues are fixable and Rosen looks like an Aaron Rodgers type See if I'm choosing between Allen and Mayfield I'll take the one that completes over 70% of his passes. That's not to say I wouldn't like Allen but he is just 4th on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Fire Bowles, name McCown the new head coach Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, greenwave81 said: Not to mention an OL to keep the QB uprgight Our OL is average. Our WRs are beyond putrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: See if I'm choosing between Allen and Mayfield I'll take the one that completes over 70% of his passes. That's not to say I wouldn't like Allen but he is just 4th on my list. Geno Smith had a 71%% completion percentage playing in the Big 12 in a similar offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: LMAO...there was ZERO reason to start McCown from the moment we first signed him. Sheeesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Well I certainly am not 'talking' myself into anything. I've already said that if the jets get darnold or rosen then this trade up is great, if we don't it has the potential to be a huge error. Agreed. Don’t like the trade if it’s for Mayfield or Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Fire Bowles, name McCown the new head coach Seriously Bowles sucks. But putting a "Seriously" tag on that post, you just killed any credibility you ever might of had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: I'm agreeing with you. It looks like we just traded for the third pick in a two-quarterback draft. I counted three times using my fingers and I came to the same conclusion. Maybe if I use my toes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Allen’s accuracy issues actually can be fixed he needs to finesse his throws more instead of trying to rifle in everything Allen looked really good in the senior bowl — unlike hero of the drunken millennials Baker Mayfield Just idiotic reasoning that leads to the "good ole boys club" of NFL football men making the same mistake over and over. "I'll fix him!" No, you won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: Geno Smith had a 71%% completion percentage playing in the Big 12 in a similar offense Ew ew!! Now do one for Allen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, pointman said: Bowles sucks. But putting a "Seriously" tag on that post, you just killed any credibility you ever might of had. Most posters on this board can outcoach Bowles let alone a 16 year Qb I feel horrible you think I lack credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPanda Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Apparently LaCAnfora and Peter King are saying that a lot of other teams besides the Jets believe the Giants are taking Barkley. So this is either the greatest smokescreen ever done or their taking BarkleyLike I said earlier, if the Browns know the Giants want Barkley and they also want him they may take him at #1 knowing they’ll still get one of the top 3 QBs at #4. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Geno Smith had a 71%% completion percentage playing in the Big 12 in a similar offense Real as it gets. Mayfield's numbers are great but he's got all sorts of problems beyond just the height. Three picks on top of 6 would be completely crazy. There is like no outcome that isn't a disaster without somebody ahead of us screwing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, UntouchableCrew said: Just idiotic reasoning that leads to the "good ole boys club" of NFL football men making the same mistake over and over. "I'll fix him!" No, you won't. Mayfield is a product of his offensive system he looked like S at the senior bowl for a reason. Look at the other big 12 qbs last 15 years: Bryce Petty RG3 Vince Young Geno Smith Landry Jones sam Bradford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, UKPanda said: Like I said earlier, if the Browns know the Giants want Barkley and they also want him they may take him at #1 knowing they’ll still get one of the top 3 QBs at #4. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app The Giants have to make the Browns think they're taking Barkley. Otherwise Cleveland can take their favorite quarterback first with impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Geno Smith had a 71%% completion percentage playing in the Big 12 in a similar offense See the difference for me is that Geno had 2 WRs that were taken in the first 3 rounds and is genuinely the only QB I've watched to consistently run out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage. Geno's a moron and a flat earther I also think Mayfield raises the level of play of the players around him while Geno's teammates loved him so much that no one stuck up for him when he got KO'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: Most posters on this board can outcoach Bowles let alone a 16 year Qb I feel horrible you think I lack credibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Real as it gets. Mayfield's numbers are great but he's got all sorts of problems beyond just the height. Three picks on top of 6 would be completely crazy. There is like no outcome that isn't a disaster without somebody ahead of us screwing up. haha what are these problems you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Real as it gets. Mayfield's numbers are great but he's got all sorts of problems beyond just the height. Three picks on top of 6 would be completely crazy. There is like no outcome that isn't a disaster without somebody ahead of us screwing up. we just traded 2 second rounders and Sheldon for Kearse and a top 3 QB. There is no situation where I believe that is a bad move. Gotta swing if you want to hit a HR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, pointman said: Bowles sucks. But putting a "Seriously" tag on that post, you just killed any credibility you ever might of had. Looks at who you’re responding to. Wrinkles brow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Integrity28 said: Looks at who you’re responding to. Wrinkles brow. I don't know who he is. But I get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 hours ago, dbatesman said: If this is true, that's an awesome deal. Now we just have to pray somebody else takes Josh Allen and saves us from ourselves. I think Macc may be targeting Josh Rosen figuring any combo of Allen, Darnold or Barkley will be the first 2 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, pointman said: haha what are these problems you speak of? Footwork, pocket awareness, progressions. It's funny because his personality makes people think he's aces at the schoolyard stuff but in actuality he's really dependent on structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, jetswin said: This is gigantic for the Jets. After not blowing the bankroll on Cousins the team's defense is hugely improved, their own version of the QB Whisperer who actually plays is back, and a potential solid backup in Bridge is on board. We, as fans suffering for decades without a QB to hang our hat have a month from now to look forward to. We should be able to further improve the run game by drafting Rashaad Penny in the third and fill out othr needs through the later rounds and the balance of free agency. A great day to be a Jet fan. Duuuuuuuude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Hael said: I don't want to be a debbie downer here. I actually like the move b/c we had to do it for the future of our franchise. But lets be clear about a few things. This was a desperation move that was a complete and total fleecing by the Colts in terms of trade value. To give you an idea.. The 6th pick is worth 1600 points, and the 3rd is worth 2200. The two 2nds are worth 530 and 410 points respectively, and the following years second is about 400 (you usually push it down a round in value though b/c its far away, so lets say 200). Thus we gave 1600 + 530 +410 + 200 = 2740 in value. So the Colts essentially create an early 2nd round pick in total value. This is the price to pay for moving up to get a qb, and yes its pretty rough. Oh jeeezus with the stupid draft chart. It does not work anymore. It's completely antiquated. The value of a franchise QB has never been higher. And meanwhile, the cap hit for a top pick is really low compared to what it used to be. Throw the draft chart out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Quit dogging me dawg. put me on ignore and ave us both some band width. You keep putting it out there, put your big boy pants on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Miss Lonelyhearts said: Footwork, pocket awareness, progressions. It's funny because his personality makes people think he's aces at the schoolyard stuff but in actuality he's really dependent on structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If you look at it this way, one of Darnold, Rosen or Mayfield will be there at 3...I like our chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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