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Top Graded draft prospects; Sam Darnold graded out at #5 overall; Josh Rosen graded #17 overall.

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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade

Currently, there is only 1 QB rated in NFL.com's top 10 NFL Draft prospects by grade:

Sam Darnold graded out at #5 with a 7.0; Josh Rosen is the next highest graded QB at #17 overall with a 6.1;

Not that it really means anything, just found it interesting.

I figure this list will be pretty meaningless when draft day actually rolls around as individual team's draft boards could look much different then this.

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Just now, Patriot Killa said:

NFL.com has been a disgrace for as long as I can remember tbh. 

I don't necessarily agree with the numerical position where the QB's are sitting on their list - I do agree with the order the QB's are ranked in:

Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield & Allen.

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1 minute ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I don't necessarily agree with the numerical position where the QB's are sitting on their list - I do agree with the order the QB's are ranked in:

Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield & Allen.

This isn’t the reason I hate NFL.com lol but I hear you.

my graded order goes 

Rosen

Darnold

Mayfield

Allen

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7 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

This isn’t the reason I hate NFL.com lol but I hear you.

my graded order goes 

Rosen

Darnold

Mayfield

Allen

I'm just scared to death of Josh Allen - it's hard to imagine a kid with a 56% career completion percentage coming into the NFL - where the defenses are faster & more complex and all of a sudden, becoming more accurate.

I know there might be a QB who has done it at some point in the history of the NFL - but I'll go out on a limb and say it's very rare.

Is Josh Allen that guy?

I haven't seen anything from him that would make me believe that - or that would make me feel comfortable if we took him at #3 overall.

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4 minutes ago, Larz said:

The evaluation process isn't over. The Jets have private workouts scheduled with each player, and the Darnold and Allen pro days are coming up.

Yep, I'm sure these grades will change several times between now and the draft - but I don't think you'll see them change all that much - barring somebody getting arrested before the draft.

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NFL.com's scouting reports are a travesty. On Rosen's weaknesses: 

WEAKNESSES

"Carries ball low in pocket with slight upward pre-throw hitch" - What in the actual f*ck does this even mean? He's got the smoothest delivery and mechanics of any QB I've seen.

"Too casual in pocket set-up" - again, what does this mean? Should he be more frantic?

"Arm talent and strength are below average." Whoever wrote this should be whipped in the nuts with a car antenna. His arm talent is excellent and his arm strength is better than good.

"Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top" - See above 

"Needs better anticipation." - This is actually one of Rosen's core strengths and is what separates him from other QBs.

"Poor mobility." Yeah, he's a pocket passer, not a f*cking running back.

Just a super lazy write up. Pure trash.

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Funny how the mock draft attached to the link (Bucky Brooks, 3/15) still has the Jets at 6 and picking Rosen there, Allen at 12 to the Bills, Mayfield at 27 to NO and Jackson at 28 to the Steelers. Then again, he has Nelson going to the Giants at 2 and Cleveland taking Denzel Ward at 4 ahead of Fitzpatrick

Gotta assume that this guy knows way more than me but, really Bucky?

4/26 can't come fast enough

 

 

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1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

These don’t align with my grades, so I’m sorry. I gave Leighton Van Meister a 111.763.578 and some tackle I kinda saw play for Marshall (can’t remember the name but he was big and ripped) I gave him a 90 because of his triceps alone.

To be fair, I recall you being graded at 5.8 as a prospective poster back in the day.  And, we all saw how inaccurate that was! :D 

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2 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

NFL.com's scouting reports are a travesty. On Rosen's weaknesses: 

WEAKNESSES

 

"Arm talent and strength are below average." Whoever wrote this should be whipped in the nuts with a car antenna. His arm talent is excellent and his arm strength is better than good.

"Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top" - See above 

 

Ironic coming from the site that drooled over his 70 yard bomb right into the receivers hands.

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3 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

NFL.com's scouting reports are a travesty. On Rosen's weaknesses: 

WEAKNESSES

"Carries ball low in pocket with slight upward pre-throw hitch" - What in the actual f*ck does this even mean? He's got the smoothest delivery and mechanics of any QB I've seen.

"Too casual in pocket set-up" - again, what does this mean? Should he be more frantic?

"Arm talent and strength are below average." Whoever wrote this should be whipped in the nuts with a car antenna. His arm talent is excellent and his arm strength is better than good.

"Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top" - See above 

"Needs better anticipation." - This is actually one of Rosen's core strengths and is what separates him from other QBs.

"Poor mobility." Yeah, he's a pocket passer, not a f*cking running back.

Just a super lazy write up. Pure trash.

The NFL.com scouting report are written by Lance Zierlein.  A former sports radio talk show host / blogger and self-proclaimed NFL Draft expert.  Why the NFL hires a guy like this with all the contacts they should have with former scouts, GMs and personnel guys.  I am pretty sure Gil Brandt used to do their write-ups.  That made sense, but Lance Zierlein, give me a break.

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4 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

NFL.com's scouting reports are a travesty. On Rosen's weaknesses: 

WEAKNESSES

"Carries ball low in pocket with slight upward pre-throw hitch" - What in the actual f*ck does this even mean? He's got the smoothest delivery and mechanics of any QB I've seen.

"Too casual in pocket set-up" - again, what does this mean? Should he be more frantic?

"Arm talent and strength are below average." Whoever wrote this should be whipped in the nuts with a car antenna. His arm talent is excellent and his arm strength is better than good.

"Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top" - See above 

"Needs better anticipation." - This is actually one of Rosen's core strengths and is what separates him from other QBs.

"Poor mobility." Yeah, he's a pocket passer, not a f*cking running back.

Just a super lazy write up. Pure trash.

Or, conversely, you’re sugar coating some of his comparative weaknesses because you’ve fallen deeply in love and have lost all form of objectivity?

Like all these kids, Rosen has serious, legit and obvious weaknesses. He’s far from a perfect prospect.

When one can brook no criticism.... well.

Won’ matter either way after the Giants draft him.

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Or, conversely, you’re sugar coating some of his comparative weaknesses because you’ve fallen deeply in love and have lost all form of objectivity?
Like all these kids, Rosen has serious, legit and obvious weaknesses. He’s far from a perfect prospect.
When one can brook no criticism.... well.


I’ve been upfront about Josh Rosen’s weaknesses, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to. In fact, if you go look at NFL.com’s scouting report of Rosen, you’ll see that I excluded the accurate weaknesses they refer to - weaknesses that I agree with and don’t object to.


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Just now, Jack Straw said:

 


I’ve been upfront about Josh Rosen’s weaknesses, so I’m not sure what you’re referring to. In fact, if you go look at NFL.com’s scouting report of Rosen, you’ll see that I excluded the accurate weaknesses they refer to - weaknesses that I agree with and don’t object to.


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I’m referring to your total rejection of the NFL.com review of the kid ffs, lol.

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I’m referring to your total rejection of the NFL.com review of the kid ffs, lol.


Well when 35% of the scouting report is complete trash and inaccurate, it makes sense to dismiss the entire report, right?

If I said something like “Brett Favre has a weak arm,” you’d probably assume that I’m a shmuk who doesn’t know what I’m talking about, right? That’s how I feel about NFL.com.



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2 hours ago, Jack Straw said:

 


Well when 35% of the scouting report is complete trash and inaccurate, it makes sense to dismiss the entire report, right?

If I said something like “Brett Favre has a weak arm,” you’d probably assume that I’m a shmuk who doesn’t know what I’m talking about, right? That’s how I feel about NFL.com.



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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the fine folks at NFL.com know a bit more about QB and QB mechanics than you do.

But if you think they're full of zee poo, so be it my friend.

I do like the "what does that mean?  Must be bullsh*t" rationalization tho, will have to use that myself one day.

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the fine folks at NFL.com know a bit more about QB and QB mechanics than you do.
But if you think they're full of zee poo, so be it my friend.
I do like the "what does that mean?  Must be bullsh*t" rationalization tho, will have to use that myself one day.


This post is as lazy as the NFL.com scouting report on Josh Rosen. I expect more from you, Warfish.


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15 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I'm just scared to death of Josh Allen - it's hard to imagine a kid with a 56% career completion percentage coming into the NFL - where the defenses are faster & more complex and all of a sudden, becoming more accurate.

I know there might be a QB who has done it at some point in the history of the NFL - but I'll go out on a limb and say it's very rare.

Is Josh Allen that guy?

I haven't seen anything from him that would make me believe that - or that would make me feel comfortable if we took him at #3 overall.

What if 56% of his completions were touchdowns?

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