House Jet Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 It was 5:21am in NY when i wrote this. I couldnt sleep so i go to my usual routine of reading about the Jets until i pass out. Except this time was different. Ive had an epiphany. Jets fans quickly realized the trade to 3 happened after the Jets visited Rosens pro day. The Jets visited Mayfields pro day right before that. With the way things are looking, it seems the Browns will take Darnold. So if Darnold is taken, it only makes sense for the Jets to make this move if they're ok with taking at the very least the 3rd qb available (id assume thats Mayfield). I know the draft has a way of being completely unpredictable. However, my take is that Baker Mayfield is a lot higher on the Jets board than people think and i wouldnt be surprised if they choose him over Rosen. If we stay at 3 which is the most likely scenario, i believe Mac has Rosen and Mayfield rated equally. If the Giants decide to go qb the consensus is that they pick Rosen. It is for this reason i believe the Jets are targeting Mayfield and it seems pretty likely that theyll have a shot at their guy. Id hope Mac didnt give up 3 2nds for a CHANCE at Rosen. I think he knows without a doubt he can get Mayfield at 3. It seems like Mac has a plan and im excited. Sorry in advance that there is no article, but i dont think this is completely baseless. Let me know what you think. Also sorry for the wall of text if your on mobile. It was too early/late to format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 minute ago, SMC said: Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. Now that you said that Mayfield will be a Jet. So when it happens it's your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I agree. Mayfield is the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 There are some genuine concerns with Rosen. The concussions are the probably the biggest one. You can only have so many before you start looking at serious long-term consequences. The highly intelligent son of a surgeon probably has a strong grasp of the issue. The alleged unconventional personality. There seems to be some question out there about how Rosen's personality will translate to the NFL, especially as a leader. That he's more Philip Rivers in that respect than Peyton Manning. Picking this high, the player has to have his head right. Does he love the game? Kinda a combination of the top two here. If he has another concussion or two, how long does his career last? Is this his passion? Or is he just looking to cash in? Everyone has the right to just cash in if that's what they want to do, but is that a characteristic you want in your franchise QB? Mayfield, on the other hand, doesn't have the injury concerns and appears to be a charismatic leader who absolutely loves the game. But he is under 6'2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 While I dont care about Rosen wearing the anti-trump hat and dont feel its a big deal, its a bit different for the Jets organization as Woody essentially works for Trump. Just something to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, SMC said: Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. Macc also seems to like QBs that suck. Maybe he might want to use the “ phone a friend” option here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 My thought process was if the Jets weren't okay with mayfield then moving up to the third makes no sense. Unless they want allen but i dont think they do. He would have probably been there at 6 tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 But he is under 6'2"... so are Brees, Wilson & Flutie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Jet Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 18 minutes ago, SMC said: Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. Just cant get behind that notion. Mayfield worked for a starting spot walking on to two different teams and winning it. Hes a senior so hes played the most fball out of the top 4 qbs. If you look at his stats from freshmen year to senior he has similar attempts but his number got better in every category. The kid is a winner and whoever picks him is gonna have a fqb for 10 plus years | | Passing Year School Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate *2013 Texas Tech Big 12 QB 8 218 340 64.1 2315 6.8 6.3 12 9 127.7 *2015 Oklahoma Big 12 JR QB 13 269 395 68.1 3700 9.4 10.4 36 7 173.3 *2016 Oklahoma Big 12 JR QB 13 254 358 70.9 3965 11.1 12.3 40 8 196.4 *2017 Oklahoma Big 12 SR QB 14 285 404 70.5 4627 11.5 12.9 43 6 198.9 Career Overall 1026 1497 68.5 14607 9.8 10.6 131 30 175.4 Texas Tech 218 340 64.1 2315 6.8 6.3 12 9 127.7 Oklahoma 808 1157 69.8 12292 10.6 11.9 119 21 189.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, jetsons said: But he is under 6'2"... so are Brees, Wilson & Flutie. I'm saying that might be a strike for Mac, not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, House Jet said: My thought process was if the Jets weren't okay with mayfield then moving up to the third makes no sense. Unless they want allen but i dont think they do. He would have probably been there at 6 tbh Allen seems the toughest one to peg where he’d go. No one would be truly surprised if he went #1 and no one would be surprised if he fell to Denver at #5 (or if another team trades up to grab him there). The only one of the 4 I think that’d be a shock to go #1 (knowing only what we know today) is Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Question is will conservative Mac frown upon colorful figure like Mayfield can be. It would definitely bring a jolt to the Jets something to get talked about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 And just think, got to take baker because of his middle name... it exudes power!!....honestly id be happy with any of the top 4 except allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I'd be fine with Mayfield, but I think Mac really has his heart set on Rosen and is gonna make another move to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 53 minutes ago, SMC said: Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. I thought Baker had the second strongest arm behind Allen of the big 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: I'd be fine with Mayfield, but I think Mac really has his heart set on Rosen and is gonna make another move to get him. Think we have the ammo for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 57 minutes ago, SMC said: Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. You're just talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I would be fine with Mayfield and I definitely don't want him in the AFCE. Rosen scares me with his injury history and the reports regarding the problems with coaches his teammates, and his rumored lack of passion for football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 If BigMac traded up this much for Baker Mayfield, I think it would be similar to the feeling of when you're doing one of those scratch offs, where you have to match numbers and you scratch of like a $2,000 and a $20 and then you're scratching of the next and it's like, there's a 2!!!! Oh sh*t, there's a zero!!!! Oh sh*t, there is another zero!!!!!!!!! ****!!!!!!!!!!! It's only $200!!!!!!!!!! but you hit one of those, another free scratch off, so it didnt seem like a total waste of $5 bucks even though you missed on the 20 and the 2,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 They better not of given up three 2nd round picks for a ******* QB that would of been there at 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Macc also seems to like QBs that suck. Maybe he might want to use the “ phone a friend” option here. I want him to call @HessStation, and I want a recording of the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, jetsons said: But he is under 6'2"... so are Brees, Wilson & Flutie. Brees - played in SD, and then in a Dome Wilson - about 5 times the athlete that Baker is, came from a pro style O Flutie - god forbit this 3rd pic's upside is Doug Flutie who else you got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I don't think sitting and 6 and waiting to see who dropped while being prepared to move up depending on how it was going was such a bad position to be in. Those 2 second rounders were going to go a long way in reshaping our team. None the less, one of the top 3 ain't half bad for this franchise. I just think it's a lot to pay for the 3rd choice when a premier player (not necessarily a QB) would have been there at 6. So bottom line I'm not crazy about the price we paid for the 3rd choice but I'm very excited to see how it all turns out. I would have said fk it if we got a non QB at 6. Just sit McCown and let Teddy and Hack battle it out for the start. Our top 3 picks would have been building a team anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 If they traded up this early for mayfield or allen its a horrible decision. It's pretty logical to say that the jets have a 3rd Qb they love enough at 3 but in my mind the gap between the top 2 and #3 is MASSIVE and not worth 3 2nd round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I simply cannot see this GM picking Mayfield over Allen. I'd have to see it happen to believe it. I think the entire point of this move was to get high enough to get Allen, or possibly Rosen or Darnold if something crazy happened, and to AVOID being left holding the Mayfield bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Allen seems the toughest one to peg where he’d go. No one would be truly surprised if he went #1 and no one would be surprised if he fell to Denver at #5 (or if another team trades up to grab him there). The only one of the 4 I think that’d be a shock to go #1 (knowing only what we know today) is Mayfield. I agree.I could see the Browns taking him, the Giants taking him, the Jets taking him, the Broncos taking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: If they traded up this early for mayfield or allen its a horrible decision. It's pretty logical to say that the jets have a 3rd Qb they love enough at 3 but in my mind the gap between the top 2 and #3 is MASSIVE and not worth 3 2nd round picks. This is why somebody is going to be pissed at who they draft, no matter who it is. Nobody has any clue on who is going to be better than who. Nobody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, SMC said: Macc, who likes tall QBs with strong arms did not move up to 3 to take a weak-armed midget QB. This is all about getting a shot at either Darnold, Rosen or Allen. Mayfield's arm is very strong - stronger than Rosen's.. http://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-2018-NFL-Combine/10241/dh/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: I simply cannot see this GM picking Mayfield over Allen. I'd have to see it happen to believe it. I think the entire point of this move was to get high enough to get Allen, or possibly Rosen or Darnold if something crazy happened, and to AVOID being left holding the Mayfield bag. I wouldn't think so, but they keep seeing the guy. they went to his pro day they had an extensive interview than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, slats said: I'm saying that might be a strike for Mac, not for me. Get the kid some orthotics or some booster shoes like Tom Cruise wears in movies and BAM 6'2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: This is why somebody is going to be pissed at who they draft, no matter who it is. Nobody has any clue on who is going to be better than who. Nobody knows. About 50% of us knew for sure that Hackenburg was a big fat awful dud. Don't sell us short here dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: About 50% of us knew for sure that Hackenburg was a big fat awful dud. Don't sell us short here dude. My bigger problem with Hackenberg was where he was taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: I simply cannot see this GM picking Mayfield over Allen. I'd have to see it happen to believe it. I think the entire point of this move was to get high enough to get Allen, or possibly Rosen or Darnold if something crazy happened, and to AVOID being left holding the Mayfield bag. That's just the question I keep asking - is why? They seem to very much like Mayfield. He's the better QB. They made the trade becaus there's a good possibility all 4 will be gone by 6. In fact, it's likely that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 hour ago, jetsons said: But he is under 6'2"... so are Brees, Wilson & Flutie. He's also under 6'1" and not even 6' 1/2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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