rowjo Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 ...prove to be better than a healthy Bridgewater. Granted, the Jets could sit Teddy and never let him play in an offense that he will thrive in...and they will not find out. But if they give the kid a chance, they will. There are only a handfull of QBs in the league that are able to put stress and worry aside and play well when the pressure mounts. Teddy is one of them. None of these QBs will be. I will get smoked for this, but the Jets would be wise to put Teddy through tons of drills heading into draft day and if he checks all boxes with flying colors then they should get Barkley and laugh all the way home. Look, in the summer of 2016 it was reported that Zimmer was CONVINCED that Teddy was going to be the only QB he ever coached. Why? Because they saw what he could do during the 2015 off-season when they didn't bow down to AP and operated the offense around Teddy. Excite was high after the third pre-season game of 2016 and then August 30th happened. 14 months later...https://www.twincities.com/2017/10/18/vikings-players-rave-about-teddy-bridgewaters-first-practice-but-mike-zimmer-tempers-expectations/ Word around town was that Teddy was ready long before week 6 last year but Case had the hot hand or as Zimmer put "a hot horseshoe," and couldn't (perhaps told not to) insert Teddy since they were winning. Point is, Teddy is 100% healthy now - he wouldn't have signed that contract with the Jets if he wasn't absolutely sure that he can perform at a high level. My prediction: whenever Teddy is given the opportunity to start (with the correct offensive scheme), the Vikings are going to kick themselves...and if the Jets brass are not the ones that do so, they will be kicking themselves as well...because they will realize that they could have had a 25 year old franchise QB AND a generational back in Barkely. It's your move Jets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'm all for positivity and giving people shots. I liked the signing but are we really going to have a Bridgewater Brigade similar to when we picked up Tebow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I’ll never for the life of me understand the Bridgewater love. Before he blew out his knee, his ceiling was basically Alex Smith dipped in chocolate. A gamemanager in every sense of the word. The kind of QB who won’t lose games for you, but isn’t capable of putting an offense on his back and winning them for you either. The kind of QB you're always going to be looking to replace. Who wants that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'm happy right now with our QB situation. Josh is steady and TB has a lot of upside. He was a Pro bowler before he got hurt. Add in a rookie and we're lookin good IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said: I'm all for positivity and giving people shots. I liked the signing but are we really going to have a Bridgewater Brigade similar to when we picked up Tebow? No similarities between Tebow and Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Teddy Bridgewater's best season is inferior to Ryan Fitzpatrick's 2015 season and Josh McCown's 2017 campaign. So, for the sake of all four of these QBs, I hope you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Untouchable said: I’ll never for the life of me understand the Bridgewater love. Before he blew out his knee, his ceiling was basically Alex Smith dipped in chocolate. A gamemanager in every sense of the word. The kind of QB who won’t lose games for you, but isn’t capable of putting an offense on his back and winning them for you either. Right? I have been saying this all along. Bridgewater was all "projection" based on a season of play. I am more on the skeptical side with him, because I have not witnessed the projection come to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: Teddy Bridgewater's best season is inferior to Ryan Fitzpatrick's 2015 season and Josh McCown's 2017 campaign. So, for the sake of all four of these QBs, I hope you are wrong. He is only 25, but even when he was at his best, he just seemed very limited. Not very athletic, not a great arm. He seemed like he could one day become a really good game manager for a team with elite talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: No similarities between Tebow and Bridgewater. I'm not comparing the players, I am comparing the seeming Die Hard fan bases. When we signed Tebow we had new posters posting all the time about how he was the best QB on the team and will win through the grace of god. It seems we've had a few posters after the Bridgewater signing behaving similarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 In their rookie year? Maybe. In the long run? I strongly suspect that at least 2 of them will be better than Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: Teddy Bridgewater's best season is inferior to Ryan Fitzpatrick's 2015 season and Josh McCown's 2017 campaign. So, for the sake of all four of these QBs, I hope you are wrong. Yea but Teddy has had the offensive tools that the Jets can provide - lots of extra yardage in garbage time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, rowjo said: ...prove to be better than a healthy Bridgewater. Granted, the Jets could sit Teddy and never let him play in an offense that he will thrive in...and they will not find out. But if they give the kid a chance, they will. There are only a handfull of QBs in the league that are able to put stress and worry aside and play well when the pressure mounts. Teddy is one of them. None of these QBs will be. I will get smoked for this, but the Jets would be wise to put Teddy through tons of drills heading into draft day and if he checks all boxes with flying colors then they should get Barkley and laugh all the way home. Look, in the summer of 2016 it was reported that Zimmer was CONVINCED that Teddy was going to be the only QB he ever coached. Why? Because they saw what he could do during the 2015 off-season when they didn't bow down to AP and operated the offense around Teddy. Excite was high after the third pre-season game of 2016 and then August 30th happened. 14 months later...https://www.twincities.com/2017/10/18/vikings-players-rave-about-teddy-bridgewaters-first-practice-but-mike-zimmer-tempers-expectations/ Word around town was that Teddy was ready long before week 6 last year but Case had the hot hand or as Zimmer put "a hot horseshoe," and couldn't (perhaps told not to) insert Teddy since they were winning. Point is, Teddy is 100% healthy now - he wouldn't have signed that contract with the Jets if he wasn't absolutely sure that he can perform at a high level. My prediction: whenever Teddy is given the opportunity to start (with the correct offensive scheme), the Vikings are going to kick themselves...and if the Jets brass are not the ones that do so, they will be kicking themselves as well...because they will realize that they could have had a 25 year old franchise QB AND a generational back in Barkely. It's your move Jets... i don't think so. he needs to show me. sure he was on his way to being a really good qb but once these guys go through an injury anything can happen. he may come back strong but at the beginning he will be thinking about that knee and he will need to put that all aside. and when he did come in for a few plays last season he wasn't exactly very good. we'll see soon enough. i hope the jets do put him through the paces before the draft. i hope no matter how he does, they don't sway from taking a qb though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 34 minutes ago, rowjo said: ...prove to be better than a healthy Bridgewater. Granted, the Jets could sit Teddy and never let him play in an offense that he will thrive in...and they will not find out. But if they give the kid a chance, they will. There are only a handfull of QBs in the league that are able to put stress and worry aside and play well when the pressure mounts. Teddy is one of them. None of these QBs will be. I will get smoked for this, but the Jets would be wise to put Teddy through tons of drills heading into draft day and if he checks all boxes with flying colors then they should get Barkley and laugh all the way home. Look, in the summer of 2016 it was reported that Zimmer was CONVINCED that Teddy was going to be the only QB he ever coached. Why? Because they saw what he could do during the 2015 off-season when they didn't bow down to AP and operated the offense around Teddy. Excite was high after the third pre-season game of 2016 and then August 30th happened. 14 months later...https://www.twincities.com/2017/10/18/vikings-players-rave-about-teddy-bridgewaters-first-practice-but-mike-zimmer-tempers-expectations/ Word around town was that Teddy was ready long before week 6 last year but Case had the hot hand or as Zimmer put "a hot horseshoe," and couldn't (perhaps told not to) insert Teddy since they were winning. Point is, Teddy is 100% healthy now - he wouldn't have signed that contract with the Jets if he wasn't absolutely sure that he can perform at a high level. My prediction: whenever Teddy is given the opportunity to start (with the correct offensive scheme), the Vikings are going to kick themselves...and if the Jets brass are not the ones that do so, they will be kicking themselves as well...because they will realize that they could have had a 25 year old franchise QB AND a generational back in Barkely. It's your move Jets... /whew! And there i was worried about the QB position. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 When you think about it, Teddy is the perfect QB for the Jets. A double sized serving of the MEH. He's perfect for the mediocrity goals of this franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 minute ago, JiF said: When you think about it, Teddy is the perfect QB for the Jets. A double sized serving of the MEH. He's perfect for the mediocrity goals of this franchise. Thank you Mr. Positive. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slats Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, rangerous said: i don't think so. he needs to show me. sure he was on his way to being a really good qb but once these guys go through an injury anything can happen. he may come back strong but at the beginning he will be thinking about that knee and he will need to put that all aside. and when he did come in for a few plays last season he wasn't exactly very good. we'll see soon enough. i hope the jets do put him through the paces before the draft. i hope no matter how he does, they don't sway from taking a qb though. I'm lumped in with everyone who's meh on Bridgewater. I didn't love him before the injury, and I'm skeptical about him now. I'm sure the Jets will put him thru the paces before and after the draft. He's got an incentive-laden deal, but the only guaranteed money is $500K that's already been paid. He'll probably earn another $500K in workout bonuses, at a minimum. I think in the end he could wind up anywhere from unseating McCown as the opening day starter to traded away or cut with Hackenberg taking his potential roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Just now, New York Mick said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Bridgewater can be an excellent #2 down the road, once we launch our franchise puppy. Assuming fully healthy, who would you rather have as your back-up-- Bridgewater, Petty, of Hackenberg? Yeah, that one was easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, slats said: I'm lumped in with everyone who's meh on Bridgewater. I didn't love him before the injury, and I'm skeptical about him now. I'm sure the Jets will put him thru the paces before and after the draft. He's got an incentive-laden deal, but the only guaranteed money is $500K that's already been paid. He'll probably earn another $500K in workout bonuses, at a minimum. I think in the end he could wind up anywhere from unseating McCown as the opening day starter to traded away or cut with Hackenberg taking his potential roster spot. that might be the scenario. i don't know if there are any rights of first refusal or other contract caveats that would keep him a jet beyond this season if he does well. the fact that it's a one year show me contract means the jets aren't that optimistic about teddy's return to form. and, as far as qb's are concerned, i don't really care who the qb is as long as he isn't a stop gap fossil or will only be around for one season. hack? probably not but who knows. darnold/rosen/mayfield? hopefully one of them and he will start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, JiF said: When you think about it, Teddy is the perfect QB for the Jets. A double sized serving of the MEH. He's perfect for the mediocrity goals of this franchise. A true statement before we traded away 17 2nd round picks to move up to 3 to land a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Bridgewater is only 25 but hasn't played a meaningful football game in 2 years. There is no way the Jets can roll the dice on him and NOT pick a QB because he has a few good practices and workouts before the draft. Bridgewater is insurance against a McCown meltdown and a very green rookie QB who's not quite ready for prime time. It was a smart, low risk, high reward move for the Jets and how many times do we ever get to say that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I’ll never for the life of me understand the Bridgewater love. Before he blew out his knee, his ceiling was basically Alex Smith dipped in chocolate. A gamemanager in every sense of the word. The kind of QB who won’t lose games for you, but isn’t capable of putting an offense on his back and winning them for you either. The kind of QB you're always going to be looking to replace. Who wants that? The god damn NEW YORK JETS! That's who. Sounds like another Pennington type, days were pretty good back then. Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 He was very good two years ago. He's still young and talented. The injury is probably the only question mark. So on that front, I agree with the OP that there's a chance he could be better than all or most of the rookies who come out this year....but only a chance. I don't know if that's a 20% chance or a 50% chance. But, I will say that I'm glad we took that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 "Granted, the Jets could sit Teddy and never let him play in an offense that he will thrive in...and they will not find out. " This is exactly what is going to happen so be prepared for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 wonder if this is the same guy who posted a few days ago named I Love Teddy. I hope it's somebody new, and there are at least two people who think Teddy is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturalscience Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 You will be amazed by this one thing that is changing the way people..... Click on links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturalscience Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, rowjo said: ...prove to be better than a healthy Bridgewater. Granted, the Jets could sit Teddy and never let him play in an offense that he will thrive in...and they will not find out. But if they give the kid a chance, they will. There are only a handfull of QBs in the league that are able to put stress and worry aside and play well when the pressure mounts. Teddy is one of them. None of these QBs will be. I will get smoked for this, but the Jets would be wise to put Teddy through tons of drills heading into draft day and if he checks all boxes with flying colors then they should get Barkley and laugh all the way home. Look, in the summer of 2016 it was reported that Zimmer was CONVINCED that Teddy was going to be the only QB he ever coached. Why? Because they saw what he could do during the 2015 off-season when they didn't bow down to AP and operated the offense around Teddy. Excite was high after the third pre-season game of 2016 and then August 30th happened. 14 months later...https://www.twincities.com/2017/10/18/vikings-players-rave-about-teddy-bridgewaters-first-practice-but-mike-zimmer-tempers-expectations/ Word around town was that Teddy was ready long before week 6 last year but Case had the hot hand or as Zimmer put "a hot horseshoe," and couldn't (perhaps told not to) insert Teddy since they were winning. Point is, Teddy is 100% healthy now - he wouldn't have signed that contract with the Jets if he wasn't absolutely sure that he can perform at a high level. My prediction: whenever Teddy is given the opportunity to start (with the correct offensive scheme), the Vikings are going to kick themselves...and if the Jets brass are not the ones that do so, they will be kicking themselves as well...because they will realize that they could have had a 25 year old franchise QB AND a generational back in Barkely. It's your move Jets... Can you say employees by parent media company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I like Bridgewater. I think he’s only guaranteed $500k, which effectively makes him the equivalent of a draft pick. Not sure what you’re getting (because of injuries). So, in my mind it’ll be like we’ve drafted 2 QBs this off-season. Makes up for giving up one of the 2nd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 blah blah blah...this all means jack sh*t until Bridgewater shows that he is healthy...and the fact that the jets paid him 500k guaranteed tells me they are not as positive as OP. i love message board posts about how a guy is 100% healthy. how could you possible know??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 What I don't understand is paying $10mm for Josh McCown. Bridgewater was a good flyer, and he gets us a comp pick if he signs somewhere else next year. Meeting Todd Bowles is the best thing every to happen to Josh McCown. We will see how the QBs work out. The Jets missing out on a top pick this year, not picking a QB last year, and picking Hack are all giant holes to dig out of. But the Eagles also dug out of holes, so it is doable. Theoretically, Hack, Bridgewater and the rookie should have been sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowjo Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 Keep your pantyhose on fellers. I don't blame your sheepish (follow the popular crowd) replies...I would probably do the same if I were you. Just know Teddy hasn't been able to play the QB position the way he is designed to best do so since college. The fact is that in his only two seasons of play Norv Turner FORCED Teddy to be a "game manager"...refusing to do NOTHING other than a) run an over the hill AP who couldn't operate out of the gun (so defenses knew a run play was coming when he was in, and a pass play was on when he was out), and b)make Teddy playn under center with a stupid seven drop passing scheme where plays took FOREVER to develop. It went against ALL ASPECTS of Teddy's strengths. Zimmer had enough after the 2015 season and was ready to let Teddy do what he can do and then tragedy struck. Someone will allow Teddy to lead their team either this year or next. The one that does will be glad they did, the ones that didn't will kick themselves. Anyhow, no more time wasted on this issue. The Jets will either give him a chance or they won't. We'll know in about 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Has there ever been another QB named Teddy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, varjet said: What I don't understand is paying $10mm for Josh McCown. Bridgewater was a good flyer, and he gets us a comp pick if he signs somewhere else next year. Meeting Todd Bowles is the best thing every to happen to Josh McCown. We will see how the QBs work out. The Jets missing out on a top pick this year, not picking a QB last year, and picking Hack are all giant holes to dig out of. But the Eagles also dug out of holes, so it is doable. Theoretically, Hack, Bridgewater and the rookie should have been sufficient. Todd Blowes is ruining our lives----football-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I love the Bridgewater addition. If the rookie is better than Bridgewater - he should be pretty much ready to go. And if not, you've still got a young QB in Bridgewater who - if he shows essentially anything - will have value and provide the Jets an opportunity to acquire picks for him after this season. Plus Bridgewater is supposed to be a pretty good dude. And if the rookie isn't ready at all and Bridgewater isn't healthy then you've got McCown. I'm sure they'll find a way to mess it up, but the quarterback room is going to be worlds better this year than the last few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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