Tony MaC Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 This might be the first signing that makes me scratch my head. I get it from a talent point of view, and money is no object at the moment (100 million plus next year and nary anybody to spend that on) but from a culture perspective... won't Suh be a problem? I know he's got a rep on the field, does anybody have a more detailed knowledge of how he is among teammates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 im curious where he plays for us. end in 34 or would we play some 43? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, prime21 said: Yup. Gaines signed with Cleveland so for now he is safe. Buster is freaking Teflon. Just cant seem to find a why to peel him off this team it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Suh has business aspirations in terms of the financial world so living in NYC would be a big plus for that career. He's an impact player and if reasonable it would be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 57 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said: When has the Jets' big investment in DL ever gone wrong? 57 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Not in terms of DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I'm fine with signing Suh but the contract needs to be with the ability for us to get out after 1 season because no way Bowles is able to control this guy past 1 season How exactly do you control a grown man making way more money than you and who doesn't want to be told what to do . Answer, you make them someone else's problem like the Jets did with Wilkerson and Richardson . On their best day, those 2 jokers together doesn't offer what Suh does and the guy shows up on Sunday every week . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, TeddEY said: If that's DeWayne Robertson. That is a correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Suh obviously has a high PFF rating, but it seems like the only guy in the NFL who could block him was Winters, and the only guy Winters could block was Suh. It would appear that the Jets are trying to be decent in 2018. Hopefully they are also building for the future. I am not as much of a fan of the Mac 1 Year Contract Specials, because he does not find a way to extend them before the end of the year if they look like they are working out. Mac likes DL. He has found decent ones even in the junk pile. Can't really figure out the LBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaJet Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 The guy is total scumbag...we passed on Cook last year and would consider this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 55 minutes ago, morny said: Did Suh not say the other day that he "didn't care what team it was, or what the fit was, he was going where he would get the most money". So either if he is definitely signing or using us as a ploy to get more from elsewhere. I’m ok with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, TampaJet said: The guy is total scumbag...we passed on Cook last year and would consider this guy? A guy gets arrested for beating a paraplegic, and THIS guy's the scumbag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaJet Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 12 minutes ago, prime21 said: Yup. Gaines signed with Cleveland so for now he is safe. Damn...was hoping to sign Gaines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Suh plays football the way it was meant to be played . You don't help your opponent up and if you can get away with it, you kick them when they're down . You want sportsmanship, I will shake your hand when the game is over. During the game, you're the enemy, and will be treated as such . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaJet Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: A guy gets arrested for beating a paraplegic, and THIS guy's the scumbag? I'm sorry...i missed the memo that there can only be one scumbag in the NFL. My bad....not sure who you are referring to...if it's Bennett...yes, he is a scumbag too. Not sure what the point is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Jason La CanforaVerified account @JasonLaCanfora 3m3 minutes ago More While the Jets are certainly exploring the Ndamukong Suh market, its less than a sure thing he goes there. Rams will be hard to beat out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, Tinstar said: Suh plays football the way it was meant to be played . You don't help your opponent up and if you can get away with it, you kick them when they're down . You want sportsmanship, I will shake your hand when the game is over. During the game, you're the enemy, and will be treated as such . https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t5jZQZ1GY7Q This offseason is almost as hilarious as that bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, TampaJet said: I'm sorry...i missed the memo that there can only be one scumbag in the NFL. My bad....not sure who you are referring to...if it's Bennett...yes, he is a scumbag too. Not sure what the point is. I think Suh is a prick on the field. Not really a scumbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: I think Suh is a prick on the field. Not really a scumbag I DO agree with this barring some off field incident I am not thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Living in S Florida I get to see the Fish almost every week. Seems to me his impact has been going south since he got to the Fish. I wouldn't pay him for the level of play he had 4 years ago, he just doesn't seem to be the same guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Jets have interest in Ndamukong Suh, but it doesn't make sense Ndamukong Suh's sack totals have decreased the past three seasons (from 6.0 to 5.0 to 4.5). Rich Graessle/Icon Sportswire 4:24 PM ET Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment Yes, it's true, the New York Jets are genuinely interested in Ndamukong Suh, as reported by Yahoo Sports. They've made an offer -- his best offer, the web site reported. He's also drawing interest from the Los Angeles Rams, Tennessee Titans and New Orleans Saints, so don't buy your Suh jerseys just yet. The Jets have a hole on the defensive line -- they haven't replaced defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson in their 3-4 front -- but this Suh fascination is surprising on a number of levels. For one, he's 31, which doesn't fit their youth movement. Wisely, general manager Mike Maccagnan has made a concerted effort to sign free agents in their prime -- 25 to 28 years old. Suh, cut recently by the Miami Dolphins, is a win-now player. In that sense, he'd be a bad fit. Come to think it, he's never won anything. Secondly, Suh was known in Miami as a "me" guy, not a team player, which runs counter to coach Todd Bowles' effort to rebuild the chemistry in the locker room. It didn't show up in the standings last season, but the Jets actually had good chemistry, a locker room filled with young, hungry players. Suh would stick out like a sore superstar. Make no mistake, money wasn't the only reason he got a pink slip from the Dolphins. Some players are so good that you're willing to put up with the baggage, but Suh doesn't fall into that category. Oh, he's still the kind of player who can draw double-teams, but his sack totals have decreased the past three seasons (from six to five to 4.5) and Miami finished 14th in run defense last season. Bowles is intrigued by the idea of adding Suh to his defensive front, I'm told. Whenever the Jets face the Dolphins, he always gushes about him. "You can't really stop him," Bowles said last October. "You try to slow him down here or there and make a play and not really let him affect the ballgame, but he affects the ballgame every time he goes out there to play. We just have to fight." This comment is surprising because Suh was invisible in some games against the Jets. In six meetings, he managed only 1.5 sacks and never more than four tackles in a game. The Jets kicked his butt in 2015 in London, where Chris Ivoryran for 166 yards. Except for sandwiching Bryce Petty in 2016, with help from Cameron Wake, Suh never made any notable plays against the Jets. Chances are, he won't sign with the Jets unless their offer is significantly better than the others. They should save their money and spend it elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: 1. Wilkerson is not a DT. He's a DE 2. I'd say we got great value out of Richardson You think Richardson is more DT than Wilkerson? They are probably both 4-3 DTs and 3-4 DEs. 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: Well if we don't have another OLB, we may have to go 3-4 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: 1. I mentioned that before. If we dont get another OLB we may have to employ a 4-3 2. And we got good value for him. You said 3-4. I was wondering what you meant. People have been saying this for years. They had no OLBs in 2015 or 2016 and they still mostly played a base 3-4 51 minutes ago, Jethead said: LOL "arm talent" is maybe the stupidest phrase ever. Leader of men? 34 minutes ago, Butterfield said: On a 2 or 3 year deal, I would like it. I think he would be a good addition and would fit well with the personalities we have on defense. Hasn't the guy been making $18M per? It had better not be that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Most likely his last dip in the money pool / last contract. I see him taking the money and playing about as well as Wilkerson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaJet Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I think Suh is a prick on the field. Not really a scumbag Idk...i think he qualifies as both. IMO anyway. Just think we have a decent amount of good character guys in the locker room. Hate to see a me first guy like that mess it up....i would find it hard to root for the guy. Unless he stomps on Brady...maybe then I can come around... a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Keep in mind that Suh played against Westly Johnson twice last season, and had no impact. Hard pass. Wish they would stop letting Bowles give input on prospective players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 In a story that has been developing over the past few hours, it appears the Jets have made a significant contract offer to free agent defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh. Ndamukong Suh update: #Suh tells me that the #Jets have emerged as a serious contender, alongside the #Titans, #Rams and #Saints (in no particular order). While a visit to NY has yet to be facilitated, Todd Bowles/the Jets have informed Suh precisely how they envision using him. — Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) March 23, 2018 Jordan Schultz of Yahoo! Sports has quoted Suh as saying that along with the Titans, Rams and Saints, the Jets have “emerged as a serious contender”. While Suh’s reputation as one of the league’s dirtiest players is likely to give some fans pause, the thought of adding him to the defensive line to pair with Leonard Williams is enticing at the very least. According to pro football focus (PFF.com), Suh was the fifth-ranked interior defensive lineman in the NFL with an overall grade of 91.0 in 2017. Despite a modest stat line of 29 solo tackles and 4 1/2 sacks, Suh still commanded double-teams and was a disruptive player in the middle of Miami’s defense. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 So we want to pay another Vet top dollar so he can take plays off and eventually retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, FTL Jet Fan said: So we want to pay another Vet top dollar so he can take plays off and eventually retire. He didn’t take plays off in Miami . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, flgreen said: Keep in mind that Suh played against Westly Johnson twice last season, and had no impact. Hard pass. Wish they would stop letting Bowles give input on prospective players Holy crap I forgot about that. Yeah... this has some high flop potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, MaxAF said: Heard he’s got a cannon? But he's a bit heavy footed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter FollowFollow @AdamSchefter More During appeal, Ndamukong Suh said his feet were numb from cold and he couldn't tell difference between Aaron Rodgers' feet and the ground. 5:27 AM - 31 Dec 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: He didn’t take plays off in Miami . No, he took whole games off. Like both of the Jets games, against an awful C. Plus he's a locker room pain in the ass. That's why we are even having this discussion. I can't imagine why the Jets are even considering him. But, Todd loves him I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Let's do it. 1 year deal for $1 more than the next highest bidder. Would be fun just to watch him and Leo wreck Tom Brady a couple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcronin Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 He's a piece of human garbage. A dirty player and ahole. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Jethead said: LOL "arm talent" is maybe the stupidest phrase ever. Agreed. What really counts is his "eye discipline". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, CanadienJetsFan said: The one thing that this defence is dearly lacking is the ability to get to the quarterback and provide constant pressure. Suh would solve that problem. although I’d prefer an edge rusher, the guy still has plenty in the tank. In the end, he’d be replacing Wilk, and that’s ok by me. question, where’d this rumour come from? None of the big sites have ever mentioned that the Jets were courting him. https://nypost.com/2018/03/23/jets-emerge-as-serious-contenders-for-ndamukong-suh/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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