JetFaninMI Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Jets Rescind Offer To DT Ndamukong Suh March 25th, 2018 at 4:27pm CST by Dallas Robinson This is breaking news. Please refresh for updates. The Jets have rescinded their offer to free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, owner Christopher Johnson told reporters, including Ralph Vacchiano of SNY (Twitter link). Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images. I wonder what happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Rescind Offer To DT Ndamukong Suh March 25th, 2018 at 4:27pm CST by Dallas Robinson This is breaking news. Please refresh for updates. The Jets have rescinded their offer to free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, owner Christopher Johnson told reporters, including Ralph Vacchiano of SNY (Twitter link). Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images. I wonder what happened?
prime21 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Oh well. See ya Suh!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Todd Bowles not apart of decision -Manish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Jets Rescind Offer To DT Ndamukong Suh March 25th, 2018 at 4:27pm CST by Dallas Robinson The Jets have rescinded their offer to free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, owner Christopher Johnson told reporters, including Ralph Vacchiano of SNY (Twitter link). New York was believed to have had the largest offer out to Suh. Gang Green was a late entrant into the Suh sweepstakes, as the veteran defender was though to have narrowed his potential destinations to the Rams, Saints, and Titans. The Jets have the most cap space of any of the teams involved in the bidding, but Johnson said adding Suh “wasn’t in keeping with [the Jets’] long-term plans,” tweets Vacchiano. Suh is now 31 years old, but he’s still a dominant player: he managed 20.5 pressures and and 4.5 sacks from his defensive tackle position while grading as the NFL’s No. 5 interior defender in 2017, per Pro Football Focus. He’s also incredibly durable, as he hasn’t missed a single contest since 2012. Last season, Suh played a whopping 883 snaps, the second-most of any defensive tackle in the league. While the Jets were reportedly willing to offer Suh the most money, he was never certain to simply follow the dollars. The Rams, Saints, and Titans each made the postseason in 2017, while New York is still embarking on a rebuild, so Suh may forgo the largest contract offered in order to sign with a contender. If he had signed with the Jets, Suh would have likely lined up as a 3-4 defensive end opposite Leonard Williams. If New York is still searching for more affordable options along its line, the club could hypothetically look at other free agents such as Alan Branch, Karl Klug, or Quinton Dial. Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Rescind Offer To DT Ndamukong Suh March 25th, 2018 at 4:27pm CST by Dallas Robinson The Jets have rescinded their offer to free agent defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, owner Christopher Johnson told reporters, including Ralph Vacchiano of SNY (Twitter link). New York was believed to have had the largest offer out to Suh. Gang Green was a late entrant into the Suh sweepstakes, as the veteran defender was though to have narrowed his potential destinations to the Rams, Saints, and Titans. The Jets have the most cap space of any of the teams involved in the bidding, but Johnson said adding Suh “wasn’t in keeping with [the Jets’] long-term plans,” tweets Vacchiano. Suh is now 31 years old, but he’s still a dominant player: he managed 20.5 pressures and and 4.5 sacks from his defensive tackle position while grading as the NFL’s No. 5 interior defender in 2017, per Pro Football Focus. He’s also incredibly durable, as he hasn’t missed a single contest since 2012. Last season, Suh played a whopping 883 snaps, the second-most of any defensive tackle in the league. While the Jets were reportedly willing to offer Suh the most money, he was never certain to simply follow the dollars. The Rams, Saints, and Titans each made the postseason in 2017, while New York is still embarking on a rebuild, so Suh may forgo the largest contract offered in order to sign with a contender. If he had signed with the Jets, Suh would have likely lined up as a 3-4 defensive end opposite Leonard Williams. If New York is still searching for more affordable options along its line, the club could hypothetically look at other free agents such as Alan Branch, Karl Klug, or Quinton Dial. Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
32EBoozer Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Meh- ok if we got him ok if we don’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Good. Don’t want Suh. Would of been subtraction thru addition. Seriously he goes against the grain of what this team is doing. Is he a beast - yes. He’s also me first and could be a locker room cancer. No thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Johnson staged an intervention here. Signing Suh was a desperate move to win some games in 2018 and still not make the playoffs. Not confidence inspiring from Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 The guy didn't even visit, I'm glad that Johnson flipped him the bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 It's not because of this Suh thing, been trying to shoehorn this in someplace for awhile, but I like Chris a lot more than his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said: It's not because of this Suh thing, been trying to shoehorn this in someplace for awhile, but I like Chris a lot more than his brother. Was just about to post the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, HawkeyeJet said: It's not because of this Suh thing, been trying to shoehorn this in someplace for awhile, but I like Chris a lot more than his brother. You also have to wonder how much he pushed mccags to trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 A well oiled machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebabyny Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I’m guessing the Jets were tired of being shopped by players using the offers to get more from other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Kinda loving the idea that Bowles personally called Suh to recruit him, Maccagnan offered him a sh*tload of cash, and ultimately the weenie owner-boy scuttled it for reasons nobody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, joebabyny said: I’m guessing the Jets were tired of being shopped by players using the offers to get more from other teams. After the cousins thing, this sounds like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Kinda loving the idea that Bowles personally called Suh to recruit him, Maccagnan offered him a sh*tload of cash, and ultimately the weenie owner-boy scuttled it for reasons nobody knows. Rex will be Woody's Billy Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 28 minutes ago, rammagen said: actually the practical solution s to adjust the cap so the pay is the same. Call it an adjustment for taxation, say in Florida you do not pay income tax for those 8 games so you would adjust the salary to make the difference in the tax. the play makes the same the pay level is the same and the home state makes a little more It's not quite that easy since the games played in other cities changes each year so there's no fixed number that would adjust it properly. But the current gap is pretty severe and it has to have a significant impact on player/agent decision-making so anything that could help would be worth pursuing. After all, look at how many championships Florida teams have won because of their advantage.... oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Rex will be Woody's Billy Martin. Chriiiiiiiist. That could actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 My assumption is Johnson felt they were being used. They offered him the most money and he still hadn't accepted. The offer is now rescinded. Maybe Johnson is saying they rescinded because he didnt fit the long term plan, rather than admit the Jets were being used and he wanted to stop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) 3/25/18, 5:41 PM My understanding is the Jets’ offer to Ndamukong Suh came with a deadline. Deadline was late last week, leading to the offer basically expiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Say what you want, but this is a pretty ballsy statement for an owner to make: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Chriiiiiiiist. That could actually happen. ha probably not. But this situation is absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, C Mart said: Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) 3/25/18, 5:41 PM My understanding is the Jets’ offer to Ndamukong Suh came with a deadline. Deadline was late last week, leading to the offer basically expiring. So what you have going on here is the team’s version of events (rescinded!) and the agent’s version (we passed!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Say what you want, but this is a pretty ballsy statement for an owner to make: SELL the team Johnson Family you obviously HAVE NO CLUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: ha probably not. But this situation is absurd. I’d bet if Rex pushed for it, he could get Woody to wobble a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I'm ok with everything that has happened between the Jets and Suh. Mostly relieved this has happened though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: SELL the team Johnson Family you obviously HAVE NO CLUE. I’m imagining a little plastic cup full of apricot slices being thrown across a rec room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: I’m imagining a little plastic cup full of apricot slices being thrown across a rec room. Being you are probably institutionalized I understand or you could smear the brown stuff in your diaper on the walls in protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Kleckineau said: Of course you are right. My only point was (which may have been mangled) was it is complicated and it is not a straight up pay state income tax where you team resides method. I was trying to add to your point. You were on point..... I thought it was something the guys might enjoy learn8ng about. You were not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, nycdan said: I knew (or thought I did) that players paid income tax based on where each game was played, but I didn't know that some states went after taxes on games played in no-income-tax states. That's cold! It does create an imbalance in terms of team attractiveness but I'm sure there's no practical solution (other than getting about 20+ states to all agree to some form of pool sharing. Yep...that sounds doable!). Think it through... if you live in NY, you earn 100,000 in on a special contract. NY and every state says you are OUR resident, you pay tax here if they have a state tax. If you won in say, NC but lived in NY, you’d pay NC as they have an income tax so it’s not straight forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Rex will be Woody's Billy Martin. Jesus H Christ I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Kinda loving the idea that Bowles personally called Suh to recruit him, Maccagnan offered him a sh*tload of cash, and ultimately the weenie owner-boy scuttled it for reasons nobody knows. Reason: Common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets8 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Rich Cimini ✔@RichCimini Ultimately, the Jets make the wise move by rescinding their offer to Suh. How they got to that point is curious. Johnson says he wasn’t involved in original offer. Rescinded after he talked to Maccagnan. #Jets 5:33 PM - Mar 25, 2018 Always good / meddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: I was trying to add to your point. You were on point..... I thought it was something the guys might enjoy learn8ng about. You were not wrong. Thanks for the expert interpretation. Bless you numbers guys. I would such a lousy CPA. My accounting experience is limited to keeping my checking acct solvent and my annual purchase of Turbotax software. ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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