jets rooter Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Looking back on q.b.s. drafted from southern cal.Makes me leery if the jets draft darnold. My pick would be josh allen who can be the jets savior. allen has played in winter conditions and would be the pick for either the jets or the giants. Agreed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 This is a bad post in many different ways. Allen will be awful and don’t draft based on geography. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Yeah because I would much rather enjoy seeing the farmer from the Mountain division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazy8ball Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: This is a bad post in many different ways. Allen will be awful and don’t draft based on geography. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Allen will be awful? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjbuddy Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 By this logic, Wyoming has never produced a draftable NFL QB so Allen won't be a good pick. UCLA and Oklahoma share in producing Aikman. Oklahoma produced Bradford and Jones. So Mayfields got no chance. UCLA has Hundley, Losman and Maddox in the past 15 years. Not looking good for Rosen, either. USC have Palmer, Sanchez, Kessler, Lienart, Cassel, Barkley. Mixed but a lot of back-up quality QBs. So perhaps Darnold will end up just a back-up. So, none of these QBs should be drafted because of players that went to the same school? Using the past success/failures for QBs that have come before is not a good way to measure current prospects. The top QBs in this draft all have the abilities to be quality QBs in the league. It's a matter of coaching, hard work, and being surrounded by right people (on and off the field). Their successes and failures won't be because of players that attended the same school years before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, jets rooter said: Looking back on q.b.s. drafted from southern cal.Makes me leery if the jets draft darnold. My pick would be josh allen who can be the jets savior. allen has played in winter conditions and would be the pick for either the jets or the giants. Agreed? At least Southern Cal produced Carson Palmer. Wyoming has only produced 3 pro bowlers, and 3 first round picks EVER. I fail to see how that's safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Allen will be awful? Huh?Awful may be a bit strong. Everyone seems to be excited about him because he is a stud but his actual performance in football games has been mediocre to date. He has not been good so far. Should I be excited because he’s 6’4” with a big arm? I will be disappointed if we draft him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Yes because Mark Sanchez was the QB in back to back AFC Championship games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Hot takes, every where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 53 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: This is a bad post in many different ways. Allen will be awful and don’t draft based on geography. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Yes because Mark Sanchez was the QB in back to back AFC Championship games. Weren't you in that crowd ripping Sanchez the other day? Just askin ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 55 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: This is a bad post in many different ways. Allen will be awful and don’t draft based on geography. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app No YOUR post is bad in many different ways . He echos thoughts by lots of posters here . QB from So Cal. ........not a good history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Lol josh Allen is technically from California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: Weren't you in that crowd ripping Sanchez the other day? Just askin ......... Nope wasn't me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 What if they enjoy skiing from time to time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naturalscience Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, jets rooter said: Looking back on q.b.s. drafted from southern cal.Makes me leery if the jets draft darnold. My pick would be josh allen who can be the jets savior. allen has played in winter conditions and would be the pick for either the jets or the giants. Agreed? Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Bruce Harper said: Awful may be a bit strong. Everyone seems to be excited about him because he is a stud but his actual performance in football games has been mediocre to date. He has not been good so far. Should I be excited because he’s 6’4” with a big arm? I will be disappointed if we draft him. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I'm betting you'll change your tune in about 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usanyj Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I guess Carson wentz sucks because he came out of north Mount Rushmore National Park state.....ok it was North Dakota state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 It's the laziest argument ever to connect trends of players from a certain school over a timeframe of decades with several different coaches and schemes over that timeframe. USC feels bad to Jets because of Sanchez but Carson Palmer anyone? Lazy "analysis." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Yes because Mark Sanchez was the QB in back to back AFC Championship games. I'm surprised. You realize you sound like a certain someone from Jersey who drives a 3 series? Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fed Hill Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Don't even talk to me about RBs from Penn State! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 8 hours ago, jets rooter said: Looking back on q.b.s. drafted from southern cal.Makes me leery if the jets draft darnold. My pick would be josh allen who can be the jets savior. allen has played in winter conditions and would be the pick for either the jets or the giants. Agreed? I was thinking anyone but Allen and praying that Barkley would be picked in front of us but I don't know how I can argue with this logic. You won me over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 If a school or coach or system constantly puts out top rated first round prospects at QB, and those prospects constantly disappoint and under perform at the pro level, that is in fact a legitimate point to make. It’s not the only factor to consider but it is a factor. After all, we have a number of folks here who see a pro day, a few minutes of throws made in shorts in perfect, no defenders, conditions as more important than that players whole college career. The “USC QBs suck in the pros” issue isn’t any more crazy than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I'm betting you'll change your tune in about 2 years.We shall see. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 e QB we had from USC holds franchise records in playoff wins, conf title game apps and road playoff wins. If the next QB we draft breaks those records or even equals them we'll be very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Grandy said: At least Southern Cal produced Carson Palmer. Wyoming has only produced 3 pro bowlers, and 3 first round picks EVER. I fail to see how that's safer. okay, that's fair to an extent. roethlisberger came from miami, ohio. how many qb's has that college produced? i know don shula was one of their most esteemed grads but as a coach not a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 hours ago, jets rooter said: Looking back on q.b.s. drafted from southern cal.Makes me leery if the jets draft darnold. My pick would be josh allen who can be the jets savior. allen has played in winter conditions and would be the pick for either the jets or the giants. Agreed? the thing i see about the usc qb's is that they typically have a loaded team so it's hard to parse out how good the qb is from how well the other players are playing. not to mention the overall party atmosphere these guys live in. maybe darnold is on the straight and narrow but guys like leinart certainly took a drop in life style when they turned pro. another knock on darnold is that he's an underclassman. maybe this isn't such a big deal because he was red shirted and i believe transferred but still, imo the four year guys are certainly easier to evaluate. as for the cold weather aspect, aaron rodgers is doing pretty well in green bay and he was a california product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Bruce Harper said: We shall see. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Good point. In any draft you're never sure what you're getting. Kinda like a box of chocolates. ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 i'd love to have the minute and a half of my life back that it took me to glance through what has to be one of the most nonsensical draft threads I have ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 11 hours ago, nyjbuddy said: The top QBs in this draft all have the abilities to be quality QBs in the league. It's a matter of coaching, hard work, and being surrounded by right people (on and off the field). Their successes and failures won't be because of players that attended the same school years before. Some years none of these guys pan out last year they said the QB class was garbage no one really knows about any of these QBs therefore draft the best player available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 41 minutes ago, bitonti said: Some years none of these guys pan out last year they said the QB class was garbage no one really knows about any of these QBs therefore draft the best player available serious question here, what has last years qb class done to really prove there not Wentz looked great, but his team also won the super bowl with a back qb Goff looked good, he was the 1st pick in the draft he’s supposed to look good Watson looked good but his team produced the 4th pick in the draft, staying healthy is def part of your talent Mahomes is still just as much as question mark as he was this time last year They could all turn out to be great, still is a good chance of that, but as of right now it’s undetermined in my mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I dont know why this is looked at as being such a bad idea. I've heard all offseason why the jets should stay away from Air Raid QB's. Why not stay away from schools that produce QB's that have a history of going high but never living up to their draft spot. Im not saying that this has to be the status quo, but this should be as sensible or ridiculous as staying away from Air Raid QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 And Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round. Every QB is an individual and different. Exceptions to every rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 16 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: This is a bad post in many different ways. Allen will be awful and don’t draft based on geography. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Still trying to figure out what q.b.s. is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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