Grandy Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/374745/Giants-expected-to-pass-on-non-Darnold-QBs Comes from a pretty reputable source. If it's indeed true; it would be huge for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 one can only hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I'm not thrilled to read that because he's the guy I most want the Jets to draft. So if this is true then I guess there's no way he's falling to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 So the Giants are waiting to see what Cleveland does with pick 1. If Browns pass on Darnold, Giants take him. If Browns select Darnold, then Giants trade down and whichever team moves into his spot drafts Rosen. Same difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1. CLE: Rosen 2. NYG: Darnold 3. NYJ: Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetrider Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Gonna die laughing when Jets pick a non-QB at 3. The legwork at Pro Days and workouts was for Bowles to confirm what he believed all along: Jets are set at QB with McCown and Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I still think we were assuming the top 2 picks will be QBs, this either confirms it or allows another to fall to us. I still think we like at least 3 guys so this can really only be good news. If the Giants trade out it would be the same as if they took a QB anyway unless they are looking to flip picks with us. There is nothing negative about this report, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 It would most likely mean Rosen would be there for us to take at 3 if true. That's good because i'm worried we are going to be stuck with Allen or Mayfield and my fear is we'll pass on Mayfield and take Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, jetrider said: Gonna die laughing when Jets pick a non-QB at 3. The legwork at Pro Days and workouts was for Bowles to confirm what he believed all along: Jets are set at QB with McCown and Bridgewater. and Hackenberg. Don't forget about Hackenberg. He's the perfect QB3 no one holds a better clip board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 If both Cleveland and the Giants pass on Allen it’ll be very telling if the Jets take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 It sounds like the Giants' scouting grades on Josh Rosen, Baker Mayfield, and Josh Allen simply aren't high enough for GM Dave Gettleman to consider picking one of the non-Darnold quarterbacks at No. 2. Gettleman has a history of drafting running backs high -- he took Christian McCaffrey eighth overall in Carolina last year -- and he never traded down in any round of the draft during four seasons as Panthers GM. Barring Gettleman disregarding his scouts or reversing course on his historical anti-trade-down stance, Penn State RB Saquon Barkley and NC State DE/OLB Bradley Chubb appear to be co-favorites to go at No. 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Excellent if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: It would most likely mean Rosen would be there for us to take at 3 if true. That's good because i'm worried we are going to be stuck with Allen or Mayfield and my fear is we'll pass on Mayfield and take Allen. no. If Darnold not there, Giants trade down and someone else takes Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: Excellent if true how so? Giants will probably trade out of #2 and whoever trades in will grab Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dcat said: no. If Darnold not there, Giants trade down and someone else takes Rosen Not if the Giants fall in love with a player like Barkley or even Nelson. A lot depends on what the Giants view themselves as. If they believe they can win now they might want to take a player at 2 who can come in and play at a high level right away. Or they could trade the pick for more picks and move down but they could also trade that pick to a team who covets Allen. There's a lot of variables out there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Not if the Giants fall in love with a player like Barkley or even Nelson. A lot depends on what the Giants view themselves as. If they believe they can win now they might want to take a player at 2 who can come in and play at a high level right away. Or they could trade the pick for more picks and move down but they could also trade that pick to a team who covets Allen. There's a lot of variables out there right now. Maybe Barkley, but they will trade down before taking Nelson at 2. THey can trade down with Denver and still get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: Maybe Barkley, but they will trade down before taking Nelson at 2. THey can trade down with Denver and still get him. Agreed but that's only if Denver is interested in moving up. If it's a team like Buffalo then the Giants would have to make a tough decision because neither Barkley or Nelson will be there at 12. Barkley wouldn't even be there at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Could you imagine the press when NYG pass on a QB because they believe in a .500 QB while NYJ draft the next big thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Grandy said: http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/374745/Giants-expected-to-pass-on-non-Darnold-QBs Comes from a pretty reputable source. If it's indeed true; it would be huge for us. I've felt all along that Cleveland will select Darnold #1. NOW the question becomes "will the Giants trade down? " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Could you imagine the press when NYG pass on a QB because they believe in a .500 QB while NYJ draft the next big thing? Hoping this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Awesome news. So they are definitely taking Barkley then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: Hoping this happens. Me too brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Smokescreen season never gets old, proceed with freak out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: If both Cleveland and the Giants pass on Allen it’ll be very telling if the Jets take him. Not really. It just says they had surfer dudes rated higher, as they and we should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScarletKnight89 said: Agreed but that's only if Denver is interested in moving up. If it's a team like Buffalo then the Giants would have to make a tough decision because neither Barkley or Nelson will be there at 12. Barkley wouldn't even be there at 5. Denver is not moving up for a qb. They are in cap hell and fully committed to Keenum for 2 yrs. they will do their best to support him. They either take Barkley at 5 or trade down for a team desperate for Allen or mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dcat said: how so? Giants will probably trade out of #2 and whoever trades in will grab Rosen. The greatest probability was the Giants take Rosen, if this is, true thats gone. Gettlemen would also have to trade down for the first time as GM, in his first year as GM for a new team. Idk about you but usually people stick to doing what got them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: The greatest probability was the Giants take Rosen, if this is, true thats gone. Gettlemen would also have to trade down for the first time as GM, in his first year as GM for a new team. Idk about you but usually people stick to doing what got them there. Ugh, your optimism/positive spin... Wooooooooooooooooooe be the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: The greatest probability was the Giants take Rosen, if this is, true thats gone. Gettlemen would also have to trade down for the first time as GM, in his first year as GM for a new team. Idk about you but usually people stick to doing what got them there. Gettleman is too smart to pick a reserve player at 2 Who “ May be good “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, Dcat said: no. If Darnold not there, Giants trade down and someone else takes Rosen What makes you think the Giants want to trade that pick? They already have quite a few picks as is. Nothing in Gettleman's history indicate he's the type of GM. Moves they've made this offseason indicate they are still trying to compete this year. I understand the worry because things just never work out well for the Jets, but there is nothing to suggest the Giants would want to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Gentleman is old school and knows to build from the big bodies out. Chubb seems like a no-brainer for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: If both Cleveland and the Giants pass on Allen it’ll be very telling if the Jets take him. And it's not telling if they both pass on Rosen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, NYJCAP2 said: The greatest probability was the Giants take Rosen, if this is, true thats gone. Gettlemen would also have to trade down for the first time as GM, in his first year as GM for a new team. Idk about you but usually people stick to doing what got them there. Yes, but... how many times has Gettleman been in a position to trade down from the top-5 to another spot in the top-5, while adding premium draft picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Gentleman is old school and knows to build from the big bodies out. Chubb seems like a no-brainer for them. I agree. He's also seen it first hand in the Giants organization that you can win with a QB that isn't elite if you have the horses on the front 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Yes, but... how many times has Gettleman been in a position to trade down from the top-5 to another spot in the top-5, while adding premium draft picks? The thing I don't understand is the logic that the Giants should trade out to stockpile all these picks because they have all these holes, but the Broncos should sell all their picks to move up 3 spots and ignore all their holes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 The giants are telling the browns that they're not getting both darnold and barkley. I think the giants could force a trade back to 4 and can still get either Rosen, allen or chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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