JetNation 2018 Mock Draft DISCUSSION

[Dcat]

1 hour ago, HessStation said:

That was a real bummer I sat through this whole thing, only an hour went by what happend?? I actually like picking the later round picks more than the early but whatevs. 

 

You guys did a great job modding and I don't mind that pick 

changed to Senat.

[JustInFudge]

@Beerfish otc?

[HessStation]

1 hour ago, Dcat said:

OK.  Near the end of the draft.  No harm.  I'll change the pick and the post with all your picks.

 

1 hour ago, Dcat said:

changed to Senat.

Yaaay! Thanks. I'm like a nerdy rainman with this crap

[Patriot Killa]

Has any one picked Marcell Frazier before I select?

I don’t see where anyone did but I may be overlooking.

[T0mShane]

3 hours ago, JiF said:

You killed it.  Love your draft.  

+1 @New York Mick killed it and huge thanks to @Lith and @Dcat for running a clean draft

[HessStation]

35 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

+1 @New York Mick killed it and huge thanks to @Lith and @Dcat for running a clean draft

To think how far we've come with these mock drafts, the way this thing was tracked and kept together for 7 rounds, amazing job Lith and Dcat, no bs.

[Thai Jet]

6 hours ago, Dcat said:

I am drafting for Buffalo on a different mock without trades.  I knew the roster was bad, but had no clue HOW BAD.  THe oft injured Kelvin Benjamin is the only WR that's slightly reliable.  He has never lived up to his hype.  After him it's the bat-sh*t crazy Zay Jones (has he been institutionalized yet?), Andre Holmes and Streater.  That is just unfathomable.  Who is AJ McCarron going to throw to?  Their roster is terrible almost everywhere on both sides of the ball except for safety (Bowles would be content).  Glaringly deficient at QB, T, WR, LB, even CB cause I don't trust Vonte Davis much.  The Bills might have the worst roster in the NFL.  At least it feels that way drafting for them. 

You did a great job.  

In the other mock where I am Bills GM, there are no trades.  All 4 QBs went off the board before #12, with Miami sniping Allen at #11.  (That tells me that the Blls better trade up again in the real draft or they probably won't land Allen or Mayfield.)  I wouldn't pick Lamar Jackson at 12, especially for a team that just kicked Tyrod Taylor to the curb in search of a different style QB. So I gave them Roq there because the Bills might just have the worst LB corps in the NFL right now.  At 22, I would have reluctantly picked Jackson had he been there, but he was gone at 17.  No way do I take Rudolph in rd 1.  I gave them the best WR in this draft, IMO, Courtland Sutton there.  Hope to get a QB with one of the rd 2 picks later.  Very happy with Roq and Sutton in rd 1.  Looking at this team, it will take them way more than one year to rebuild.  Their roster is simply pathetic.

Out here they are screaming for the Bills to add another CB, a couple of WR's. and some LB help. OL could use some depth also.

Sounds like you did a great job in the 1st round getting Roq and Sutton. Keep up the good work filling those holes.

 

[New York Mick]

28 minutes ago, HessStation said:

To think how far we've come with these mock drafts, the way this thing was tracked and kept together for 7 rounds, amazing job Lith and Dcat, no bs.

We use to do 4 rounds and have trouble. 

[Thai Jet]

6 hours ago, New York Mick said:

Thank Dcat and Lith. I know running these can be a pain in the ass. 

My plan A was to get Darnold or Rosen without giving up too much or Mayflower with out giving up hardly anything. Plan B was to give McC the best chance of succeeding by fixing the Oline and getting him weapons then drafting a later round QB prospect as well as a solid tackler.

Nelson is probably the best lineman in the draft and Ragnow is best C in the draft especially open running lanes. As far weapons I went with one of the best receiving TE in Dallas and receiving RB/HB in Samuels and gave him a legitimate slot threat in Kirk. Leonard should help out with coverage as well as being the leading tackler and Falk will have years to develop into a NFL QB without the pressure of being in the headlines.

I was just surprised you added TE's. They start Charles Clay who's caught 100+ passes the last 2 years plus they have 6 TE's on the roster behind him. They are screaming for WR's having lost 4 , including Jordon Matthews and Deonte Thompson in FA. Great job of being done early with no picks in the last 3 rounds.

[Thai Jet]

11 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

We use to do 4 rounds and have trouble. 

I remember those. Took forever too. Great job this year !

[Dcat]

Dallas Cowboys completed draft:

19	1	19	875	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	WILL HERNANDEZ	Texas-El Paso	G
50	2	18	400	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	HAYDEN HURST	South Carolina	TE
81	3	17	185	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	HOLTON HILL	Texas	CB
116	4	16	62	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	CEDRICK WILSON	Boise St.	WR
137	4	37	37	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	NATHAN SHEPHERD	Fort Hays St.	DT	Compensatory
165	5	28	25	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	DARIUS PHILLIPS	Western Michigan	CB
193	6	19	13.8	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	CHARVARIUS WARD	Middle Tennessee St.	CB
236	7	18	1	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	DAYLON MACK	Texas A&M	DT

@RobR

[Dcat]

Denver Broncos completed draft:

3	1	3	2200	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	SAQUON BARKLEY	Penn State	RB	From Colts
44	2	12	460	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	D.J. MOORE	Maryland	WR
92	3	28	132	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	KYLE LAULETTA	Richmond	QB
99	3	35	104	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	DA'SHAWN HAND	Alabama	DE	Compensatory
106	4	6	82	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	MASON COLE	Michigan	C
231	7	13	1	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	PARRY NICKERSON	Tulane	CB

@Beerfish

I think this is another excellent draft.  You traded up from what seemed like hordes of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7ths and got real quality in those first 5 picks.   DJ is one of my favorites of this draft.  

[Thai Jet]

20 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Denver Broncos completed draft:

3	1	3	2200	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	SAQUON BARKLEY	Penn State	RB	From Colts
44	2	12	460	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	D.J. MOORE	Maryland	WR
92	3	28	132	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	KYLE LAULETTA	Richmond	QB
99	3	35	104	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	DA'SHAWN HAND	Alabama	DE	Compensatory
106	4	6	82	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	MASON COLE	Michigan	C
231	7	13	1	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	PARRY NICKERSON	Tulane	CB

@Beerfish

I think this is another excellent draft.  You traded up from what seemed like hordes of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7ths and got real quality in those first 5 picks.   DJ is one of my favorites of this draft.  

I think Lauletta in the 3rd might be the steal of the draft.

[HessStation]

21 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Denver Broncos completed draft:

3	1	3	2200	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	SAQUON BARKLEY	Penn State	RB	From Colts
44	2	12	460	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	D.J. MOORE	Maryland	WR
92	3	28	132	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	KYLE LAULETTA	Richmond	QB
99	3	35	104	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	DA'SHAWN HAND	Alabama	DE	Compensatory
106	4	6	82	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	MASON COLE	Michigan	C
231	7	13	1	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	PARRY NICKERSON	Tulane	CB

@Beerfish

I think this is another excellent draft.  You traded up from what seemed like hordes of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7ths and got real quality in those first 5 picks.   DJ is one of my favorites of this draft.  

I like this draft for Denver too. 

[Dcat]

Green Bay Packers completed draft:

14	1	14	1100	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	DERWIN JAMES	Florida State	S
58	2	26	320	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	ARDEN KEY	LSU	EDGE
76	3	12	210	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	MICHAEL GALLUP	Colorado State	WR
90	3	26	140	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	QUENTON MEEKS	Stanford	DB
101	4	1	96	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	WYATT TELLER	Virginia Tech	G	From Browns
133	4	33	39	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	ALEX CAPPA	Humboldt St.	OT	Compensatory
138	5	1	36.5	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	NICK NELSON	Wisconsin	CB	From Browns
172	5	35	22.2	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	TYLER CONKLIN	Central Michigan	TE	Compensatory
174	5	37	21.4	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	KEVIN TOLIVER II	LSU	CB	Compensatory
175	6	1	21	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	JUSTIN WATSON	Pennsylvania	WR
232	7	14	1	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	KENTAVIUS STREET	N.C. State	DE

@Lith

[Dcat]

NT Jets completed draft:

5	1	5	1700	New York Jets	Jets	Dcat	BAKER MAYFIELD	Oklahoma	QB
40	2	8	500	New York Jets	Jets	Dcat	SONY MICHEL	Georgia	RB
107	4	7	80	New York Jets	Jets	Dcat	JEFF HOLLAND	Auburn	EDGE
157	5	20	28.2	New York Jets	Jets	Dcat	WILL CLAPP	LSU	C	From Cowboys
179	6	5	19.4	New York Jets	Jets	Dcat	BREELAND SPEAKS	Mississippi	DT
235	7	17	1	New York Jets	Jets	Dcat	CHRISTIAN CAMPBELL	Penn State	CB	From Seahawks

[Dcat]

Baltimore Ravens completed Draft:

16	1	16	1000	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	HAROLD LANDRY	Boston College	EDGE
52	2	20	380	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	RONNIE HARRISON	Alabama	S
83	3	19	175	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	JAMARCO JONES	Ohio St.	OT
118	4	18	58	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	TEGRAY SCALES	Indiana	ILB
154	5	17	29.4	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	SCOTT QUESSENBERRY	UCLA	C
190	6	16	15	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	DYLAN CANTRELL	Texas Tech	WR
215	6	41	5	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	MARQUEZ VALDES-SCANTLING	South Florida	WR	Compensatory
238	7	20	1	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	TANNER LEE	Nebraska	QB

@#27TheDominator

[Beerfish]

41 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Denver Broncos completed draft:

3	1	3	2200	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	SAQUON BARKLEY	Penn State	RB	From Colts
44	2	12	460	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	D.J. MOORE	Maryland	WR
92	3	28	132	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	KYLE LAULETTA	Richmond	QB
99	3	35	104	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	DA'SHAWN HAND	Alabama	DE	Compensatory
106	4	6	82	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	MASON COLE	Michigan	C
231	7	13	1	Denver	Broncos	Beerfish	PARRY NICKERSON	Tulane	CB

@Beerfish

I think this is another excellent draft.  You traded up from what seemed like hordes of 4th, 5th, 6th and 7ths and got real quality in those first 5 picks.   DJ is one of my favorites of this draft.  

I accomplished most of what I wanted.  Though  have been blasting Barkley on  the main boards I think the small trade up for him was a good one for Denver.  I would have taken Rosen or Darnold if they were there at 3.  CJ Anderson is pretty unreliable and a good bell cow back will really help that team.

I traded up in the 2nd and got a pretty good Wr in my mind.  D Thomas is still pretty good but did not crack 1,000 Sanders underwhelmed last year and the rest of their wr are jags.

I was pretty happy to get Lauletta in the late 3rd but I did think about Rudolph as well who went one pick later.

I wanted a dlineman in this draft as I think their ends are not that great.

I wanted to trade down in the 4th and had a tentative deal to move down and get a 5th and 6th rounder back but it fell through.  I was still happy to get Cole who can probably play C or OG and though he is no pro bowl level talent I think he can be a reliable starter in this league.

It was a long long wait to get to the 7th rounder but this guy was the top of my list of players I handed in.  He is not big but ran a 4.32 and could make it as a slot corner.

 

 

[Dcat]

Miami Dullphins completed draft:

11	1	11	1250	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	TREMAINE EDMUNDS	Virginia Tech	LB
51	2	19	390	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	MARK ANDREWS	Oklahoma	TE
73	3	9	225	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	EQUANIMEOUS ST. BROWN	Notre Dame	WR
82	3	18	180	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	MIKE WHITE	Western Kentucky	QB
209	6	35	7.4	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	DAURICE FOUNTAIN	Northern Iowa	WR	Compensatory - From Rams through Chiefs
227	7	9	1	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	ROC THOMAS	Jacksonville St.	RB	From 49ers
229	7	11	1	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	SIRAN NEAL	Jacksonville St.	S
237	7	19	1	Miami	Dolphins	j4jets	TAYLOR HEARN	Clemson	G

@j4jets

[Beerfish]

22 minutes ago, Dcat said:

Green Bay Packers completed draft:

14	1	14	1100	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	DERWIN JAMES	Florida State	S
58	2	26	320	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	ARDEN KEY	LSU	EDGE
76	3	12	210	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	MICHAEL GALLUP	Colorado State	WR
90	3	26	140	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	QUENTON MEEKS	Stanford	DB
101	4	1	96	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	WYATT TELLER	Virginia Tech	G	From Browns
133	4	33	39	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	ALEX CAPPA	Humboldt St.	OT	Compensatory
138	5	1	36.5	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	NICK NELSON	Wisconsin	CB	From Browns
172	5	35	22.2	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	TYLER CONKLIN	Central Michigan	TE	Compensatory
174	5	37	21.4	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	KEVIN TOLIVER II	LSU	CB	Compensatory
175	6	1	21	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	JUSTIN WATSON	Pennsylvania	WR
232	7	14	1	Green Bay	Packers	Lith	KENTAVIUS STREET	N.C. State	DE

@Lith

Getting james at 14 is a bit of a steal if you ask me. 

[New York Mick]

1 hour ago, Thai Jet said:

I was just surprised you added TE's. They start Charles Clay who's caught 100+ passes the last 2 years plus they have 6 TE's on the roster behind him. They are screaming for WR's having lost 4 , including Jordon Matthews and Deonte Thompson in FA. Great job of being done early with no picks in the last 3 rounds.

Dallas might be the best receiving TE in the draft and could be a beast in the new NFL, Samuels plays RB/HB/WR and is the best receiving back in the draft as well as a change of pace guy add Kirk to the slot along with McCoy and a healthy Benny and they should be ok. 

As far as Clay he’s a jag and his contract is crap so they need to move on from him. 

[Thai Jet]

1 minute ago, New York Mick said:

Dallas might be the best receiving TE in the draft and could be a beast in the new NFL, Samuels plays RB/HB/WR and is the best receiving back in the draft as well as a change of pace guy add Kirk to the slot along with McCoy and a healthy Benny and they should be ok. 

As far as Clay he’s a jag and his contract is crap so they need to move on from him. 

They need PURE wide outs especially with Jay being possibly headed to a nut house. They are looking for big things from Clay  this year with the new OC. Personally I never cared for him. Overpaid slug if you ask me.

[Lith]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Getting james at 14 is a bit of a steal if you ask me. 

Thanks, but it kind of screwed up the first half of the draft for me. 

I really wanted a #1 corner -- had my eye on Denzel Ward and Joshua Jackson.  Ward was gone, but Jackson was still on the board when I was picking, but I took James -- bpa and all.  I guess me and Macc are like two peas in a pod. 

Tried to trade back up late 1/early 2 to get Jaire Alexander or Isaiah Oliver - had a deal in place if Oliver was still on the board, but he went a pick or two before the slot I was trading to.  Thought about Holton Hill in the 3rd, but I already had a character risk in Key in the 2nd, didn't want two in a row.  Came away with 3CBs in middle rounds: Meeks, Nelson (tore meniscus a couple of days later), and Toliver (character risk, but I could justify it in the 5th).

Overall, I am happy with my draft.  Probably should have taken Wadley in the 6th, but I made the vanity pick of Justin Watson instead.

[HessStation]

2 hours ago, Dcat said:

Baltimore Ravens completed Draft:

16	1	16	1000	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	HAROLD LANDRY	Boston College	EDGE
52	2	20	380	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	RONNIE HARRISON	Alabama	S
83	3	19	175	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	JAMARCO JONES	Ohio St.	OT
118	4	18	58	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	TEGRAY SCALES	Indiana	ILB
154	5	17	29.4	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	SCOTT QUESSENBERRY	UCLA	C
190	6	16	15	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	DYLAN CANTRELL	Texas Tech	WR
215	6	41	5	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	MARQUEZ VALDES-SCANTLING	South Florida	WR	Compensatory
238	7	20	1	Baltimore	Ravens	#27TheDominator	TANNER LEE	Nebraska	QB

@#27TheDominator

This is an extremely Ravens-like draft. Really well done imo.  

[RobR]

3 hours ago, Dcat said:

Dallas Cowboys completed draft:

19	1	19	875	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	WILL HERNANDEZ	Texas-El Paso	G
50	2	18	400	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	HAYDEN HURST	South Carolina	TE
81	3	17	185	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	HOLTON HILL	Texas	CB
116	4	16	62	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	CEDRICK WILSON	Boise St.	WR
137	4	37	37	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	NATHAN SHEPHERD	Fort Hays St.	DT	Compensatory
165	5	28	25	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	DARIUS PHILLIPS	Western Michigan	CB
193	6	19	13.8	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	CHARVARIUS WARD	Middle Tennessee St.	CB
236	7	18	1	Dallas	Cowboys	RobR	DAYLON MACK	Texas A&M	DT

@RobR

I think I did a decent job filling all the holes on their roster although I don't like the first round pick which I didn't make. I probably would have went Sutton or Kirk in the first and that would have changed my fourth round pick.

I was always looking for a later QB and the ones I targeted were always selected a few picks before I got my pick in. Loved getting Hill in the third which I believe will be a steal.

[Dcat]

40 minutes ago, RobR said:

I think I did a decent job filling all the holes on their roster although I don't like the first round pick which I didn't make. I probably would have went Sutton or Kirk in the first and that would have changed my third round pick.

I was always looking for a later QB and the ones I targeted were always selected a few picks before I got my pick in. Loved getting Hill in the third which I believe will be a steal.

It might have been a few picks before where he was projected, but gebeezus....  I can't imagine what its like lining up opposite this

This is nasty.  I think whatever team gets him will be very, very happy.

 

[Paradis]

Nice picks with Siran Neal and the SDSU WR... 

 

[Integrity28]

3 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Nice picks with Siran Neal and the SDSU WR... 

 

Siran was one of the guys I listed for the mods. I’m throwing darts now though

[Lith]

6 minutes ago, Dcat said:

It might have been a few picks before where he was projected, but gebeezus....  I can't imagine what its like lining up opposite this

This is nasty.  Whatever team that gets him will be very very happy.

 

And, he can do double duty as a placekicker if needed.

 

[RobR]

8 minutes ago, Dcat said:

It might have been a few picks before where he was projected, but gebeezus....  I can't imagine what its like lining up opposite this

This is nasty.  I think whatever team gets him will be very, very happy.

 

He's a good prospect, no doubt. I just think he's being overrated by the draft community. Dak needs more weapons, not another guard. 

[Dcat]

7 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Nice picks with Siran Neal and the SDSU WR... 

 

sniped right in front of me in round 7 

[Dcat]

Just now, RobR said:

He's a good prospect, no doubt. I just think he's being overrated by the draft community. Dak needs more weapons, not another guard. 

I wasnt thinking about Cowboys needs really.  It will be intersting to see if he goes in rd 1 or 2.  I think 1. 

[RobR]

I'd guess round 2 but either way somewhere between 25 and 40. I like him, I just wouldn't have drafted him for the Cowboys if I was making the selection. No worries because I was late to the game.

Right now I would have went Sutton but Kirk is really growing on me. Despite his height I think he's a guaranteed stud at the next level.

[Paradis]

45 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Siran was one of the guys I listed for the mods. I’m throwing darts now though

he's gangster. I was going to take him if he was on the board. He and Jeremy Reaves are to two small school stud safeties IMO. 

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, Lith said:

And, he can do double duty as a placekicker if needed.

 

On my Italian team, I may have been the only guy that couldn't regularly kick a 35 yard FG.  They used to line them up and knock them down in practice.  Everybody, safeties, CBs, 315 lb offensive tackles, the special teams coach...