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Seriously.  Not used to this, but Christopher Johnson is making me a fan of his.  Between refocusing Mac away from Suh (I like the player, but he's on the wrong side of 30, so not someone we want to be putting big money into before our window opens) and the stand he took on the anthem protests ("I can't speak to how other people run their teams," Johnson said Sunday, "but I just think that trying to forcibly get the players to shut up is a fantastically bad idea"), I'm impressed.  Hopefully he continues to run the team for a while

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I was just thinking the same thing.  There are also comments about his thought process on Anderson and Donahue....he's wants to give them a chance to rehabilitate themselves and thinks that the Jets can help facilitate that rehabilitation, rather then just giving up on them and cutting them.

But his comments also seem to indicate that the leash is going to be very short.  I'm impressed with what he's done so far.

He is becoming known as a "players owner".

 

 

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There were rumors that the johnsons also were behind the trade up for a qb, and at this point given mccags' lackidasical approach to finding one, you have to wonder how much of the push to #3 came from Chris.  We may never know.

another interesting thing, is that Chris Johnson went out of his way to say that the decision to rescind the offer to Suh did not involve Bowles.  Similarly, the decision to trade up to #3 likely didn't involve him either.  It seems like the owner and gm are aligned here, and that Bates is also being given considerable power in his input for a qb and the installation of his offense.  Is it a stretch to infer that Bowles is no longer being given the input in key decisions that he had when he arrived?

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I am not impressed at all by him-I think Mac is a terrible gm so far be it for me to defend him but ownership deciding roster moves cuts the gms hands off. Then crying about how we did not get cousins is not a good look either

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15 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

Seriously.  Not used to this, but Christopher Johnson is making me a fan of his.  Between refocusing Mac away from Suh (I like the player, but he's on the wrong side of 30, so not someone we want to be putting big money into before our window opens) and the stand he took on the anthem protests ("I can't speak to how other people run their teams," Johnson said Sunday, "but I just think that trying to forcibly get the players to shut up is a fantastically bad idea"), I'm impressed.  Hopefully he continues to run the team for a while

Same. I’m really not sure how to handle this feeling.

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13 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

Seriously.  Not used to this, but Christopher Johnson is making me a fan of his.  Between refocusing Mac away from Suh (I like the player, but he's on the wrong side of 30, so not someone we want to be putting big money into before our window opens) and the stand he took on the anthem protests ("I can't speak to how other people run their teams," Johnson said Sunday, "but I just think that trying to forcibly get the players to shut up is a fantastically bad idea"), I'm impressed.  Hopefully he continues to run the team for a while

Would you be as impressed if Chris Johnson had very politely said to the players, "When you're on the NYJ time? You have to abide by my rules. I believe in patriotism. I believe in the American way. I happen to believe very strongly in adherence to placing your hand over your heart. You will have to abide by those rules during NYJ time."?

Because in no way, shape, or form does that make Woody or the Cowboys owner any less "amiable" than any other owner.

And lets be honest here... I am certain that in your workplace even YOU have certain rules that you must abide by? If you were a pr*ck to the customers, do you think you'd have a job for very long? Placing your hand over your heart keeps the emphasis on FOOTBALL and keeps the customers happy and not some stupid social cause that Colin Kaepernick championed.

Colin Kaepernick for that matter, could go head to head on Jeopardy with Robbie Anderson and Geno Smith..

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Yeah its great that your owner shots down a contract offer AFTER it has been made and been out here for a week.  Who made the suh offer?  It sounded like another Bowles special because he had talked to suh about how he was going to be used.

I don;t want to hear from Chris Johnson.  I want to hear from our president of football operations who is between the owner and the GM.

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2 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Yeah its great that your owner shots down a contract offer AFTER it has been made and been out here for a week.  Who made the suh offer?  It sounded like another Bowles special because he had talked to suh about how he was going to be used.

I don;t want to hear from Chris Johnson.  I want to hear from our president of football operations who is between the owner and the GM.

This. This is exactly what an NFL owner should do.

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At 1st I got excited about theSuh prospect next to Leo. But you guys are right, the Jets need to STOP striving for 1 more win each year. The guy is on the wrong side of 30, and who knows how much PASSION he's got left for football now that he's banked crazy money in the bank. Once a turd always a turd. Great move to rescind, CJ just said, nope, not using us twice in the same offseason. That's exactly how I felt about Cousins. Put the offer out there, EVERYONE knew it was the largest offer, put a very short deadline on it & move on. 

Lets find a good young QB, and then many offensive players will want to wear the NYJ logo!

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23 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Yeah its great that your owner shots down a contract offer AFTER it has been made and been out here for a week.  Who made the suh offer?  It sounded like another Bowles special because he had talked to suh about how he was going to be used.

I don;t want to hear from Chris Johnson.  I want to hear from our president of football operations who is between the owner and the GM.

My feeling is you're always going to get a soundbite or something from an owner. It's just the nature, I think, of football operations.

So as long as that's always going to happen, we might as well feel good about what we hear.

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Just now, DMan77 said:

My feeling is you're always going to get a soundbite or something from an owner. It's just the nature, I think, of football operations.

So as long as that's always going to happen, we might as well feel good about what we hear.

True.  I wish we knew the real story behind the whole Suh thing.  It smacks of direct owner interference. 

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2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

That most people here agree with.

Owner interference is grand if you agree with it, next time people won't agree and go ballistic. 

What I considered a funny scenario, not taking josh Rosen due to his politics, suddenly potential becomes a real issue.

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Just now, Beerfish said:

Owner interference is grand if you agree with it, next time people won't agree and go ballistic. 

What I considered a funny scenario, not taking josh Rosen due to his politics, suddenly potential becomes a real issue.

TBH, the concussions with Rosen scare the daylights out of me. Because we have seen young players retire for fear of that issue recently. 

It seems that every owner interferes. Even Bob Kraft interfered.

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1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Yeah its great that your owner shots down a contract offer AFTER it has been made and been out here for a week.  Who made the suh offer?  It sounded like another Bowles special because he had talked to suh about how he was going to be used.

I don;t want to hear from Chris Johnson.  I want to hear from our president of football operations who is between the owner and the GM.

cmon now... know when to put away the salt for a few beats. 

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1 minute ago, Paradis said:

cmon now... know when to put away the salt for a few beats. 

Why is the owner making this announcement after the gm offered the contract and the coach talked to the player?  People are back patting this guy just becasue they don't like Suh?  Get ready for the next time he steps int and nixes something or someone.

If the Jets made a time limited take it or leave if offer to suh then great, i approve and say that.  Chris johnson's comments did not come across as that however.

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1 minute ago, Beerfish said:

Why is the owner making this announcement after the gm offered the contract and the coach talked to the player?  People are back patting this guy just becasue they don't like Suh?  Get ready for the next time he steps int and nixes something or someone.

If the Jets made a time limited take it or leave if offer to suh then great, i approve and say that.  Chris johnson's comments did not come across as that however.

My understanding is the Jetsoffer to Ndamukong Suh came with a deadline. Deadline was late last week, leading to the offer basically expiring.

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3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Why is the owner making this announcement after the gm offered the contract and the coach talked to the player?  People are back patting this guy just becasue they don't like Suh?  Get ready for the next time he steps int and nixes something or someone.

If the Jets made a time limited take it or leave if offer to suh then great, i approve and say that.  Chris johnson's comments did not come across as that however.

 

 

I don't really see what the problem with this is? 

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3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Why is the owner making this announcement after the gm offered the contract and the coach talked to the player? 

What do you mean - do you think Macc has to check with CJ for every player he's trying to sign? What GM on earth would agree to be micro managed like that.

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2 hours ago, Doggin94it said:

Seriously.  Not used to this, but Christopher Johnson is making me a fan of his.  Between refocusing Mac away from Suh (I like the player, but he's on the wrong side of 30, so not someone we want to be putting big money into before our window opens) and the stand he took on the anthem protests ("I can't speak to how other people run their teams," Johnson said Sunday, "but I just think that trying to forcibly get the players to shut up is a fantastically bad idea"), I'm impressed.  Hopefully he continues to run the team for a while

1 out of 2 is awesome.  Glad he nixed the offer. 

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2 hours ago, IndianaJet said:

I was just thinking the same thing.  There are also comments about his thought process on Anderson and Donahue....he's wants to give them a chance to rehabilitate themselves and thinks that the Jets can help facilitate that rehabilitation, rather then just giving up on them and cutting them.

But his comments also seem to indicate that the leash is going to be very short.  I'm impressed with what he's done so far.

He is becoming known as a "players owner".

 

 

Exactly.  People shouldn't undersell how important that is.

2 hours ago, jgb said:

Sounds like a jilted lover to me, retroactively explaining to your buddies that that girl you asked to the prom and rejected you wasn’t really someone you wanted to bring anyway

Sure, except they pulled the offer

2 hours ago, kmnj said:

dan snyder says hi

Does not seem to be a "player's owner" and he calls the shots on player decisions, rather than just having input.  Different strata

2 hours ago, Jetscreen said:

Would you be as impressed if Chris Johnson had very politely said to the players, "When you're on the NYJ time? You have to abide by my rules. I believe in patriotism. I believe in the American way. I happen to believe very strongly in adherence to placing your hand over your heart. You will have to abide by those rules during NYJ time."?

Because in no way, shape, or form does that make Woody or the Cowboys owner any less "amiable" than any other owner.

And lets be honest here... I am certain that in your workplace even YOU have certain rules that you must abide by? If you were a pr*ck to the customers, do you think you'd have a job for very long? Placing your hand over your heart keeps the emphasis on FOOTBALL and keeps the customers happy and not some stupid social cause that Colin Kaepernick championed.

Colin Kaepernick for that matter, could go head to head on Jeopardy with Robbie Anderson and Geno Smith..

No.  Because as much as I think America's worth honoring and that protesting during the anthem is wrong, the freedom to protest is one of the key reasons why America is worth honoring.  And "no politics on the field, now salute the flag" is an astonishingly obtuse position to take.  

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Owner interference is grand if you agree with it, next time people won't agree and go ballistic. 

What I considered a funny scenario, not taking josh Rosen due to his politics, suddenly potential becomes a real issue.

Owner interference is typically a bad thing.  Intelligent owner input, while leaving the decision to the professionals, is not.

As for Rosen, given Johnson's stance on the anthem protests, I doubt he takes Rosen off the board over his politics.

 

 

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