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Just very confused on this guy.  Was excited that he was back on the field practicing at the end of last year(6 weeks?) and actually got a little bit of live game action.  I took that as he was no longer injured and barring re-injury he would be good to go without limitations this year. 

https://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/jets-teddy-bridgewater-knee-1.17701695

Jets have concerns about Teddy Bridgewater’s knee

 

ORLANDO, Fla. — It seems the health of newly signed Jets’ quarterback Teddy Bridgewater has some questions.

Bridgewater, who signed a one-year, incentive-laden contract worth $15 million is only guaranteed a $500,000 signing bonus and a $500,000 workout bonus. His 2018 base salary is $5 million, but that’s not guaranteed.

The contract was structured this way because Bridgewater is coming off a severe knee injury that cost him nearly two seasons with the Vikings and if he doesn’t make the 53-man roster, the worst the Jets have done is pay him $1 million.

Bridgewater passed a physical with the Jets before signing his contract, yet Todd Bowles didn’t give a good indication if the 25-year old will be moving around for organized team activities which start next month.

 

“I’ll see where he is closer to that point,” Bowles said Tuesday of whether Bridgewater will be ready to go for OTAs. “But we expect him to be throwing in the spring and that’s about all we can expect right now.”

Bridgewater’s former coach with the Vikings, Mike Zimmer, told reporters on Tuesday he liked what he saw from his quarterback in practices last year. But the Vikings’ doctors had concerns.

“The reports I’d get back from the medical people weren’t as positive as I was about it,” Zimmer said, according to ESPN. “That’s kind of how it came down is that his knee wasn’t as … he still has some recovery to do. When I watched him in practice, he moved well, I didn’t see limitations but from what I was told there was some.”

Bridgewater suffered a torn ACL and a dislocated left kneecap in a non-contact training camp practice drill in August 2016.

He returned to play in a limited role last season, throwing just two passes. Bridgewater is wearing a heavy brace over his left knee and when he spoke with reporters a few weeks ago said it was up to the Jets’ trainers and doctors to determine when he would fully step onto the field.

The Jets knew they were gambling when they signed the former Pro Bowl quarterback. Given the limited amount of money invested, it seems worth it, especially if he wins a starting job.

“He passed his physical and he got a [clean] bill of health, right there,” Bowles said. “So in the spring, we’ll just be excited to see him and whatever happens there happens.”

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57 minutes ago, peebag said:

He fit a need and was low risk - if he doesn't pan out in training camp, cut him.  

and if Teddy does pan out the Jets can't cut McCown with the $10,000,000 guaranteed - plan B was very expensive - that agent cashed a nice commission check Thanks to Mac

Would love to see Teddy earn comeback player of the year

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He is never playing another snap in the nfl.  Any educated fan knows this already.  His knee is shot.  The vikes making him inactive in the playoffs let you know that this guy cant play anymore.

The Jets basically handed him 500,000 and will cut him b4 the season.  Lucky him.

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3 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

He is never playing another snap in the nfl.  Any educated fan knows this already.  His knee is shot.  The vikes making him inactive in the playoffs let you know that this guy cant play anymore.

The Jets basically handed him 500,000 and will cut him b4 the season.  Lucky him.

Would be great to save the $5mm...Use that elsewhere.

My guess is if they draft anyone but Allen he's gone even if healthy.

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11 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

and if Teddy does pan out the Jets can't cut McCown with the $10,000,000 guaranteed - plan B was very expensive - that agent cashed a nice commission check Thanks to Mac

Would love to see Teddy earn comeback player of the year

I think they brought McCown back in for insurance and as a cheerleader.

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3 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Would be great to save the $5mm...Use that elsewhere.

My guess is if they draft anyone but Allen he's gone even if healthy.

We are dropping Hack and Petty, right? Then if we drop Teddy too that means going into the season with McCown who is always injured, and a drafted QB. Wouldn't we need the insurance of a 3rd QB?

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2 minutes ago, pointman said:

We are dropping Hack and Petty, right? Then if we drop Teddy too that means going into the season with McCown who is always injured, and a drafted QB. Wouldn't we need the insurance of a 3rd QB?

Keep Petty as your 3rd.  You don't need to pay $5mm to a 3rd string QB.

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1 minute ago, FidelioJet said:

Keep Petty as your 3rd.  You don't need to pay $5mm to a 3rd string QB.

I didn't read it thoroughly, but I believe Teddy's contract is all incentives? So I don't think he will cost us 5 big ones. Plus, with the cap space we have, does it matter? I'd rather Teddy who may have something big left in the tank, instead of Petty who should try a new line of work.

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34 minutes ago, pointman said:

Probably the same guys the Mets use. JK supposedly our docs are good. Supposedly.

We don't have the best history when it comes to team doctors. 

Dr. Elliott Pellman - Rheumatologist who also headed the leagues committee on concussions during the Tagliabue era. Lied about his medical background and degree from Mexico. Yeaaahhhh.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/sports/football/nfl-doctor-elliot-pellman-concussions-retires.html

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3 minutes ago, pointman said:

I didn't read it thoroughly, but I believe Teddy's contract is all incentives? So I don't think he will cost us 5 big ones. Plus, with the cap space we have, does it matter? I'd rather Teddy who may have something big left in the tank, instead of Petty who should try a new line of work.

The $5mm is his base salary - so if he makes the team it's $5mm - there's more to be made with incenntives..

The season should start with McCown, Rookie, Hack or Petty --- Unless it's Allen as he should ride the bench all year.

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11 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

The $5mm is his base salary - so if he makes the team it's $5mm - there's more to be made with incenntives..

The season should start with McCown, Rookie, Hack or Petty --- Unless it's Allen as he should ride the bench all year.

only in the NFL would teams/businesses talk about "only $1 million" like it was couch change.   The Jets basically bet $1 million on him that he could make the roster, and then owe him another $4 million if he is on opening day.  Plus he makes incentives if he plays.

I would find a way to pay him a little and put him on IR this year, and hopefully he can train/help out this off season.  he can be the veteran back up next year and we can save ourselves the McCown $10mm premium.  With a high draft pick, McCown, the pick and better of Petty/Hack should be sufficient for this year. 

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27 minutes ago, pointman said:

We are dropping Hack and Petty, right? Then if we drop Teddy too that means going into the season with McCown who is always injured, and a drafted QB. Wouldn't we need the insurance of a 3rd QB?

 

24 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

Keep Petty as your 3rd.  You don't need to pay $5mm to a 3rd string QB.

I expect Hack to be the fourth arm in camp, with him and Bridgewater potentially in a battle for a roster spot. 

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I also expect Hack to be the 4th QB... I think Petty's time is done.

I also think Brdigewater will be okay. But if not, oh well. He was worth the risk. If he's okay then he's a dynamic and exciting option... If not, ah well. 

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58 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said:

We don't have the best history when it comes to team doctors. 

Dr. Elliott Pellman - Rheumatologist who also headed the leagues committee on concussions during the Tagliabue era. Lied about his medical background and degree from Mexico. Yeaaahhhh.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/sports/football/nfl-doctor-elliot-pellman-concussions-retires.html

wtf!!! 

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47 minutes ago, varjet said:

only in the NFL would teams/businesses talk about "only $1 million" like it was couch change.   The Jets basically bet $1 million on him that he could make the roster, and then owe him another $4 million if he is on opening day.  Plus he makes incentives if he plays.

I would find a way to pay him a little and put him on IR this year, and hopefully he can train/help out this off season.  he can be the veteran back up next year and we can save ourselves the McCown $10mm premium.  With a high draft pick, McCown, the pick and better of Petty/Hack should be sufficient for this year. 

Why do any of that? If he's too hurt to play cut him before the season, if he's healthy and better than Hack/Petty keep him on roster. Simple as that.

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/27/vikings-felt-teddy-bridgewater-still-has-recovery-left-to-do/

Jets quarterback Teddy Bridgewater wouldn’t say recently whether he believes he’ll be ready to participate in offseason work with his new team and comments from the coach of his former team suggest that the quarterback may not be ready to go.

Bridgewater returned to practice with the Vikings during the 2017 season and Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said Tuesday that he felt Bridgewater was progressing well during his time on the field. He put Bridgewater in one game to mop up a win as evidence of that, but the team’s medical staff had a different take.

“The reports I’d get back from the medical people weren’t as positive as I was about it,” Zimmer said, via Courtney Cronin of ESPN.com. “That’s kind of how it came down is that his knee wasn’t as … he still has some recovery to do. When I watched him in practice he moved well, I didn’t see limitations but from what I told there was some.”

Bridgewater said that he’s “confident in the [Jets] athletic training staff and the coaching staff here that they can eventually get me back to the player that I once was.” His deal with the Jets includes little guaranteed money, which gives the team a chance to see if things play out the way Bridgewater hopes with little downside in the event they go the other way instead.

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15 hours ago, DMan77 said:

I also expect Hack to be the 4th QB... I think Petty's time is done.

I also think Brdigewater will be okay. But if not, oh well. He was worth the risk. If he's okay then he's a dynamic and exciting option... If not, ah well. 

Well managed teams don’t carry 4 qbs

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14 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

agree and it makes sense, just not for $10m - who were they bidding against?

McCown was resigned as a player/coach. Think 7 million as a QB (going rate), 3 million as a mentor/coach. It's not easy to find players who will coach up & encourage youngsters who will take your job but McCown understands his role. He obviously works great with Bates, that takes some of the pressure off of Bates & lets him dive more into gameday planning, as Josh is a great communicator in his own right & has spoken about going into coaching. I think it would be awesome if he stays here with Bates & the young Rookie QB we're about to draft. 

Nothing helps a young QB more than having a stable environment with good people around him. I'm sure CJ had to sign off on the McCown contract, and it seems this guy gets it regarding continuity and not just shuffling players in & out. Everything the Jets do should be about finding a QB & giving him the best chance to succeed with the right people around him. Mark Sanchez was wiping boogies on Mark Brunells  jacket for god sake. 

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3 hours ago, Jetster said:

McCown was resigned as a player/coach. Think 7 million as a QB (going rate), 3 million as a mentor/coach. It's not easy to find players who will coach up & encourage youngsters who will take your job but McCown understands his role. He obviously works great with Bates, that takes some of the pressure off of Bates & lets him dive more into gameday planning, as Josh is a great communicator in his own right & has spoken about going into coaching. I think it would be awesome if he stays here with Bates & the young Rookie QB we're about to draft. 

Nothing helps a young QB more than having a stable environment with good people around him. I'm sure CJ had to sign off on the McCown contract, and it seems this guy gets it regarding continuity and not just shuffling players in & out. Everything the Jets do should be about finding a QB & giving him the best chance to succeed with the right people around him. Mark Sanchez was wiping boogies on Mark Brunells  jacket for god sake. 

I can appreciate the QB development aspect (although he did not seem to help Petty or Hack), but agree Sanchez needed a driver/mentor and competition, not a cheerleader...

The Morton firing / Bates promotion was interesting and a good point, I agree the relationship can help Bates and if McCown can help the draft pick and stays for more than the 1 year contract it would help the team

It just feels like that agent played Mac like a fiddle, representing both Cousins and McCown, the fully guaranteed 1 year deal feels more like desperation than plan B (like the Sanchez extension) - AJ signed for half that on a two year deal

Anyway it is done now and at least Mac did not wait for Camp to get it done so that's good, just hope Teddy and the draft pick get a chance to play while McCown is healthy.

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Maybe the feeling is that 500k isn't a lot of $ to spend on a lottery ticket.  Drafting a QB at 3 is what?, like 2-1 or 3-1 against finding our guy.  So, the lottery ticket give us another 10-1 against shot at it.  The more the merrier.    

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He is never playing another snap in the nfl.  Any educated fan knows this already.  His knee is shot.  The vikes making him inactive in the playoffs let you know that this guy cant play anymore.

The Jets basically handed him 500,000 and will cut him b4 the season.  Lucky him.

Based on the contract language this is possible. The mini camp could provide early insight.

 

Thing is, if his TC participation is limited I don't see it as a good sign...

 

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There was only one Teddy Ballgame and his head is frozen and stored upside down somewhere 

As far as Bridgewater goes, one has to wonder if he can even make it past the preseason. If he does and wins the starting job, how long can he stay on the field? What happened to him last year is a dark cloud that will hang over his head for quite a while if not forever.

I would not be surprised to see him hurt again and McCown, Darnoldrosenallenmayfield, and Hackenberg carry throughout the season 

 

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