How Jets' Todd Bowles thinks he is a better coach entering Year 4

[Gas2No99]

How Jets' Todd Bowles thinks he is a better coach entering Year 4

Jets head coach Todd Bowles believes he has grown since 2015. (AP Photo | Paul Sancya)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The win-loss results haven't shown it, largely because of drastically altered roster composition, but Todd Bowles believes he is a better coach now than he was in 2015, when he debuted with the Jets as a rookie head coach. 

Bowles won 10 games in 2015 and barely missed the playoffs. The next two seasons, he won five games each year. Bowles and general manager Mike Maccagnan are under contract through 2020, after both received a two-year extension at the end of last season. 

Acting owner Christopher Johnson has already said neither the coach nor GM faces a playoff mandate in 2018. The Jets last reached the playoffs in 2010. They could miss out again in 2018, and Bowles and Maccagnan could still be back in 2019. 

"I think I've grown every year," Bowles said Tuesday at the NFL Annual Meeting. 

For most of his first two seasons, Bowles had a heavy hand in the defense, calling plays during games. Near the end of the 2016 season, he mostly turned those duties over to defensive coordinator Kacy Rodgers. Bowles expects the 2018 season to look much like 2017, in this area. Rodgers will continue to command and call the defense. 

Bowles wanted to do this so he could become more of an all-around head coach, though he retains veto power over everything, of course. 

"Letting the defense, for the most part, to Kacy has been big for me, becoming more of a game-day manager," he said. "I think I'm calmer from the standpoint of understand what my players are, and who they are, and when to teach and when to yell, as opposed to just going off the handle all the time. I think I've grown that way." 

Handing the defense over to Rodgers wasn't easy for Bowles. 

"It was difficult because I had never done it," Bowles said. "But the more I let it go, and Kacy took over, I think he became a lot better organizer and game-type preparation guy than I had been, because I had my hand in a lot of other places. I make suggestions [to Rodgers during games]. Some of them are stronger suggestions. We're on the same page." 

Bowles is still involved in defensive play calls during games, but "not as much as I was." 

Ideally, Bowles wants to be equally involved in the offense and defense. 

"I'm trying to get to the point where I'm 50/50," he said. "A good balance would be healthy for me." 

It would be good for the Jets, too, since they desperately need to get their offense and quarterback situation sorted out in 2018, when they likely will have a high draft pick rookie quarterback. 

[Integrity28]

48 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said:

I'm trying to get to the point where I'm 50/50," he said. "A good balance would be healthy for me." 

Eating salad would be healthy for you.

Being equally involved in all phases of the team would just be... doing your job. 

[Jetscreen]

Bowles has got to be the very worst HC in the league today. I can't think of a single thing he does well. Is there anything? The defense has consistently underachieved since Bowles got here. The ST has been terrible every year since Bowles has been in charge. The offense is actually worse than when Rex was around.

Really I'll just be happy the day it dawns on Chris that he must fire Bowles.

[Grandy]

Great, we have a defensive minded HC who's only half involved on defense.

[TuscanyTile2]

19 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Eating salad would be healthy for you.

Being equally involved in all phases of the team would just be... doing your job. 

He's only been HC for 3 years.  If you want him to do his job, you've gotta give him more time than that!

[TuscanyTile2]

17 minutes ago, Jetscreen said:

Bowles has got to be the very worst HC in the league today. I can't think of a single thing he does well. Is there anything? The defense has consistently underachieved since Bowles got here. The ST has been terrible every year since Bowles has been in charge. The offense is actually worse than when Rex was around.

Really I'll just be happy the day it dawns on Chris that he must fire Bowles.

He's the best in the business when it comes to surrendering.

[JetFaninMI]

Bowles....... you would think he would learn one thing......stfu.

[varjet]

At this point in time, Bowles would have to be the NFL coach most likely to be fired.  

If his GM and Owner take Rosen or Allen, he will definitely get fired.   For different reasons, there is no way Bowles survives Rosen or Allen.  

Mayfield would actually save his job for a few years. 

[T0mShane]

Letting extremely unqualified people do my job is also how I’ve grown in my career.

[Sonny Werblin]

Haters gonna hate. 

[Larz]

I was hoping for an executive head coach when they were looking the last time 

With that said, saying you became better by letting someone else do it is the jetsiest thing ever lol

 

[Charlie Brown]

In truth let's be honest, there in nothing Todd Bowles can say for many other than "I Quit" that would satisfy you...

 

[King P]

Like any coach we get, I'm rooting for him to improve. But it's becoming increasingly obvious more and more every day that he's in over his head and not a good fit for this job.

[afjetsfan]

We are so ****ed.

[Gen X Jet]

[Jetster]

How can you say handing over the defense was difficult but the right decision when you can't get off the damn field on 3rd down, and WRs & TEs are running free without a defender in the damn TV screen? 

I just don't get this guy, he's like a damn snake oil salesman. If I don't see improvement this year, he's gotta go and Kacy Rogers stinks so far, so I have no idea what he's been observing on the field? 3 years and all these high picks & we still wallow in the top 10 worst defenses in the league with a defensive coach. 

Look what Zimmer has done up in Minnesota. 

[peebag]

15 minutes ago, Jetster said:

How can you say handing over the defense was difficult but the right decision when you can't get off the damn field on 3rd down, and WRs & TEs are running free without a defender in the damn TV screen? 

I just don't get this guy, he's like a damn snake oil salesman. If I don't see improvement this year, he's gotta go and Kacy Rogers stinks so far, so I have no idea what he's been observing on the field? 3 years and all these high picks & we still wallow in the top 10 worst defenses in the league with a defensive coach. 

Look what Zimmer has done up in Minnesota. 

Unfortunately, picking a qb @ 3 in the upcoming draft will give both Mac and Cheese another year.

[Jetster]

1 hour ago, peebag said:

Unfortunately, picking a qb @ 3 in the upcoming draft will give both Mac and Cheese another year.

I'm starting to see that Chris Johnson is no Woody so far and that is great. He's obviously let Macc & Bowles with this 2 year extension hang themselves with the slack he's given them but this is OBVIOUSLY a make or break draft & season. Even though playoffs or bust was not put on the table, the over all team has got to show improvement from week to week & this defense should at least 10-15 ranked after 4 years at the helm for a defensive coach.

[Embrace the Suck]

So, he hasn't gotten better as a coach... I didn't hear anything that he got better at. Kind of sort of delegating control to the defense coordinator isn't a sign of getting better. Nor is going into year 4 and hoping to start getting involved with the offense. Those are things that should have been done year one. Puff article with no substance when substance should be easy to point to. It's like Rex all over again, but quieter.

[faba]

Best thing he can do is stay out of the offense where he has no expertise let bates run it and hopefully we draft the right QB

[BCJet]

16 hours ago, Jetscreen said:

Bowles has got to be the very worst HC in the league today. I can't think of a single thing he does well. Is there anything? The defense has consistently underachieved since Bowles got here. The ST has been terrible every year since Bowles has been in charge. The offense is actually worse than when Rex was around.

Really I'll just be happy the day it dawns on Chris that he must fire Bowles.

Sadly I agree.  Schematically, play calling and especially in-game management are all areas where Bowles in my opinion has no idea what he is doing.  Some of his in game decisions last year were so terrible that you couldn't even make a coherent argument for what Bowles chose to do, specifically the end of half in Denver.  

Lets hope Baltimore underachieves this year and we can grab John Harbough and keep Bates and the offensive staff

[Bugg]

2 hours ago, Jetster said:

How can you say handing over the defense was difficult but the right decision when you can't get off the damn field on 3rd down, and WRs & TEs are running free without a defender in the damn TV screen? 

I just don't get this guy, he's like a damn snake oil salesman. If I don't see improvement this year, he's gotta go and Kacy Rogers stinks so far, so I have no idea what he's been observing on the field? 3 years and all these high picks & we still wallow in the top 10 worst defenses in the league with a defensive coach. 

Look what Zimmer has done up in Minnesota. 

A snake oil salesman would at least have a plan(see Ryan, Rex or Edwards, Herman), and I see no evidence of that. 

[JohnnyLV]

16 hours ago, Jetscreen said:

Bowles has got to be the very worst HC in the league today. I can't think of a single thing he does well. Is there anything? The defense has consistently underachieved since Bowles got here. The ST has been terrible every year since Bowles has been in charge. The offense is actually worse than when Rex was around.

Really I'll just be happy the day it dawns on Chris that he must fire Bowles.

There truly isnt. Our previous head coaches were seriously flawed but you could point to good things. I honestly cannot find one aspect of coaching that he is good at, and several things he is incredibly bad at.

[56mehl56]

15 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

In truth let's be honest, there in nothing Todd Bowles can say for many other than "I Quit" that would satisfy you...

 

Yeah but he needs to do that after a game not during the 1st half. 

[BigO]

Of course he’s a better coach now. The season hasn’t started yet. By season’s end he and McClown will buy a boat and go into the shrimp ? business. 

[NoBowles]

If Bowles goes on to be a HC for 40 years, he is on pace to have 30 different OC’s.

#learningonthejob

[jetstream23]

Two things I've learned here.  Todd Bowles is the black Rex Ryan (minus the foot fetish....possibly).  Todd Bowles also believes he can become a vegetarian but still eat meat 3 or 4 or maybe 6 days a week.  In other words, he's saying that he's relinquishing control of the defense....but he's still going to be very involved.  #OldHabitsDieHard

Seriously, wasn't it around this same point (after year 2 or 3) that we had a first-time HC who came from the defensive side of the ball and finally started to pay attention to other parts of the team?  It feels like Groundhog Day all over again.  I vividly remember Rex saying things like, "I went to the RB meeting room today for the first time....hadn't even seen the room before."  And that was in like his 3rd year as HC.

[ASH1962]

When will the green cool aid drinkers stop trying to convince us Todd Bowles is, or will be a good HC? Hot flash for the Cool aid boys -  The rest of us have watched NFL football as long as (or longer than) you have, and can recognize a TERRIBLE HC when we see one. Bowles will NEVER EVER EVER EVER be a good NFL HC. EVER.

This crusade for Todd Bowles being a better coach is laughable at best and is akin to my saying my Ford Taurus will be a Ferrari after 4 years. Bowles sucks as a HC, he sucks as a DC.

As a football coach - he does nothing well. 

Good grief what are these people watching?

[ASH1962]

45 minutes ago, BigO said:

Of course he’s a better coach now. The season hasn’t started yet. By season’s end he and McClown will buy a boat and go into the shrimp ? business. 

yes and the boat will be called the "Gladys" because he loves Gladys Knight.

[JiFtheOracle]

16 hours ago, Larz said:

I was hoping for an executive head coach when they were looking the last time 

With that said, saying you became better by letting someone else do it is the jetsiest thing ever lol

 

Especially when this said someone isnt really good at their job. 

[southparkcpa]

17 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He's only been HC for 3 years.  If you want him to do his job, you've gotta give him more time than that!

Yes...   lets give him 10 years. we can absolutely suck for 10 more years.

[BigO]

14 minutes ago, ASH1962 said:

yes and the boat will be called the "Gladys" because he loves Gladys Knight.

And the Pips will be Mac, Hack & Petty. 

[jack48]

22 hours ago, Gas2No99 said:

How Jets' Todd Bowles thinks he is a better coach entering Year 4

Jets head coach Todd Bowles believes he has grown since 2015. (AP Photo | Paul Sancya)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The win-loss results haven't shown it, largely because of drastically altered roster composition, but Todd Bowles believes he is a better coach now than he was in 2015, when he debuted with the Jets as a rookie head coach. 

Bowles won 10 games in 2015 and barely missed the playoffs. The next two seasons, he won five games each year. Bowles and general manager Mike Maccagnan are under contract through 2020, after both received a two-year extension at the end of last season. 

Acting owner Christopher Johnson has already said neither the coach nor GM faces a playoff mandate in 2018. The Jets last reached the playoffs in 2010. They could miss out again in 2018, and Bowles and Maccagnan could still be back in 2019. 

"I think I've grown every year," Bowles said Tuesday at the NFL Annual Meeting. 

For most of his first two seasons, Bowles had a heavy hand in the defense, calling plays during games. Near the end of the 2016 season, he mostly turned those duties over to defensive coordinator Kacy Rodgers. Bowles expects the 2018 season to look much like 2017, in this area. Rodgers will continue to command and call the defense. 

Bowles wanted to do this so he could become more of an all-around head coach, though he retains veto power over everything, of course. 

"Letting the defense, for the most part, to Kacy has been big for me, becoming more of a game-day manager," he said. "I think I'm calmer from the standpoint of understand what my players are, and who they are, and when to teach and when to yell, as opposed to just going off the handle all the time. I think I've grown that way." 

Handing the defense over to Rodgers wasn't easy for Bowles. 

"It was difficult because I had never done it," Bowles said. "But the more I let it go, and Kacy took over, I think he became a lot better organizer and game-type preparation guy than I had been, because I had my hand in a lot of other places. I make suggestions [to Rodgers during games]. Some of them are stronger suggestions. We're on the same page." 

Bowles is still involved in defensive play calls during games, but "not as much as I was." 

Ideally, Bowles wants to be equally involved in the offense and defense. 

"I'm trying to get to the point where I'm 50/50," he said. "A good balance would be healthy for me." 

It would be good for the Jets, too, since they desperately need to get their offense and quarterback situation sorted out in 2018, when they likely will have a high draft pick rookie quarterback. 

he is eating more fiber. tht is why he thinks he will be better

[jack48]

22 hours ago, Gas2No99 said:

How Jets' Todd Bowles thinks he is a better coach entering Year 4

Jets head coach Todd Bowles believes he has grown since 2015. (AP Photo | Paul Sancya)

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The win-loss results haven't shown it, largely because of drastically altered roster composition, but Todd Bowles believes he is a better coach now than he was in 2015, when he debuted with the Jets as a rookie head coach. 

Bowles won 10 games in 2015 and barely missed the playoffs. The next two seasons, he won five games each year. Bowles and general manager Mike Maccagnan are under contract through 2020, after both received a two-year extension at the end of last season. 

Acting owner Christopher Johnson has already said neither the coach nor GM faces a playoff mandate in 2018. The Jets last reached the playoffs in 2010. They could miss out again in 2018, and Bowles and Maccagnan could still be back in 2019. 

"I think I've grown every year," Bowles said Tuesday at the NFL Annual Meeting. 

For most of his first two seasons, Bowles had a heavy hand in the defense, calling plays during games. Near the end of the 2016 season, he mostly turned those duties over to defensive coordinator Kacy Rodgers. Bowles expects the 2018 season to look much like 2017, in this area. Rodgers will continue to command and call the defense. 

Bowles wanted to do this so he could become more of an all-around head coach, though he retains veto power over everything, of course. 

"Letting the defense, for the most part, to Kacy has been big for me, becoming more of a game-day manager," he said. "I think I'm calmer from the standpoint of understand what my players are, and who they are, and when to teach and when to yell, as opposed to just going off the handle all the time. I think I've grown that way." 

Handing the defense over to Rodgers wasn't easy for Bowles. 

"It was difficult because I had never done it," Bowles said. "But the more I let it go, and Kacy took over, I think he became a lot better organizer and game-type preparation guy than I had been, because I had my hand in a lot of other places. I make suggestions [to Rodgers during games]. Some of them are stronger suggestions. We're on the same page." 

Bowles is still involved in defensive play calls during games, but "not as much as I was." 

Ideally, Bowles wants to be equally involved in the offense and defense. 

"I'm trying to get to the point where I'm 50/50," he said. "A good balance would be healthy for me." 

It would be good for the Jets, too, since they desperately need to get their offense and quarterback situation sorted out in 2018, when they likely will have a high draft pick rookie quarterback. 

We definitely need Todd's input on offense.  Yeah.

[jack48]

4 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

Yes...   lets give him 10 years. we can absolutely suck for 10 more years.

Right.   He won 5, then he won 5.  Growth