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KRL

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flgreen

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3 minutes ago, KRL said:

He was the starting center for DET over the past three years.  Is he going to be a backup

or are we looking to deal Carpenter for a pick?  

I won't be stunned if they outright cut Carpenter.  His first year here, under Gailey, he had a real nice season, last year he sucked.

I remember reading an article when Gailey was here about him that he said ,  he played much better under Gailey because Gailey ran a man blocking scheme.  His former team ran a zone block, and he wasn't good in a zone block.

Sure enough, the next year Jets switched to a zone and he sucked.  Still running a zone.

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24 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said:

I think if Winters or Carpenter get hurt, you slide Long to G and play Swanson at C

 

21 minutes ago, flgreen said:

I won't be stunned if they outright cut Carpenter.  His first year here, under Gailey, he had a real nice season, last year he sucked.

I remember reading an article when Gailey was here about him that he said ,  he played much better under Gailey because Gailey ran a man blocking scheme.  His former team ran a zone block, and he wasn't good in a zone block.

Sure enough, the next year Jets switched to a zone and he sucked.  Still running a zone.

 

AS much as I like Carpenter, the reason we signed him to an excellent value FA contract in '15 was because he had poor stats as a Zone blocking OLineman in Seattle. Carpenter excels in a Man Blocking scheme like he showed us in '15 & '16 under Gailey. 

Carpenter is NOT a fit for the new OLine Zone blocking scheme that Bates/Dennison will run and will become MORE of a liability; I think the Jets either trade him or cut him outright as @flgreen stated. 

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Adding jags to a jaggy oline.  I thought harrison was our good depth or dozier.

Mark my words one injury and this oline is going to implode next year.

We are going the mac/houston special of david carr strat of getting a franchise qb and ignoring the oline for years before hand.

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Just now, Beerfish said:

Adding jags to a jaggy oline.  I thought harrison was our good depth or dozier.

Mark my words one injury and this oline is going to implode next year.

We are going the mac/houston special of david carr strat of getting a franchise qb and ignoring the oline for years before hand.

Was he there when they began?

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17 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Adding jags to a jaggy oline.  I thought harrison was our good depth or dozier.

Mark my words one injury and this oline is going to implode next year.

We are going the mac/houston special of david carr strat of getting a franchise qb and ignoring the oline for years before hand.

In a FA and Draft class with little to no exceptional OLine talent, I think the Jets are doing an EXCELLENT job of stocking OLine depth considering the dearth of talent currently available. Harrison and Dozier are in-house, and if you want the Jets to improve you constantly have to bring in outside people to put pressure on the incumbents and let the cream rise to the top. We have to keep signing OLine because the Jets are VERY vulnerable and weak in that unit. 

Swanson has 42 game starts in 53 games played. That alone makes him superior "JAG" depth over Dozier and Harrison. The only caveats with Swnason are his shoulder and his one concussion:

Swanson was drafted by the Detroit Lions in the third round (76th overall) of the 2014 NFL Draft.

On December 28, 2014, Swanson made his first career start at center against the Green Bay Packers.[8] On January 2, 2016, Swanson was placed on injured reserve due to a shoulder injury.[9]

In 2017, Swanson started 11 games before being placed on injured reserve on December 29, 2017 with a concussion.[10]

I was hoping to draft RB & 2 OL with the three 2nd round picks, but it'll be worth it for a QB and we still have Pot June 1st and Training Camp cuts that will provide better equipped NFL ready OLine than the college draft that is pea shooting Spread Offense Fatty speed bumps instead of OLine maulers and refined pass protectors. 

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3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Adding jags to a jaggy oline.  I thought harrison was our good depth or dozier.

Mark my words one injury and this oline is going to implode next year.

We are going the mac/houston special of david carr strat of getting a franchise qb and ignoring the oline for years before hand.

I get thinking that Swanson is a JAG.  I don't understand the idea that he is a worse choice than Harrison or Dozier.  Those two stiffs sat behind Wesley Johnson who was atrocious all year.  I thnk the offensive line was better than expected last season and I would imagine Dennison has some hand in the choices - for that reason I would give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being.  The interior line does not have to be filled with high dollar/pick players.

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2 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I get thinking that Swanson is a JAG.  I don't understand the idea that he is a worse choice than Harrison or Dozier.  Those two stiffs sat behind Wesley Johnson who was atrocious all year.  I thnk the offensive line was better than expected last season and I would imagine Dennison has some hand in the choices - for that reason I would give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being.  The interior line does not have to be filled with high dollar/pick players.

I'm not saying he is worse than harrison or dozier he is probably better what i am saying is we just singed harrison and if you look in that thread people are saying he is good depth.  A guy who could not beat out wes johnson.

I agree that the oline was better than thought last year.  It is also a clear house of cards and the fear is that mac has decided we have a good oline.  He has almost ignored it draft capital wise.

Think of the last success this franchise had in rexs 1st years, great oline.

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6 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said:

In a FA and Draft class with little to no exceptional OLine talent, I think the Jets are doing an EXCELLENT job of stocking OLine depth considering the dearth of talent currently available. Harrison and Dozier are in-house, and if you want the Jets to improve you constantly have to bring in outside people to put pressure on the incumbents and let the cream rise to the top. We have to keep signing OLine because the Jets are VERY vulnerable and weak in that unit.

I was hoping to draft RB & 2 OL with the three 2nd round picks, but it'll be worth it for a QB and we still have Pot June 1st and Training Camp cuts that will provide better equipped NFL ready OLine than the college draft that is pea shooting Spread Offense Fatty speed bumps instead of OLine maulers and refined pass protectors. 

No argument about this being a thin line crop.  But they have ignored the oline for years, traded away those 2nd rounders and are now going to draft their franchise guy.

This time next year all we will be talking about is the need for oline.

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No argument about this being a thin line crop.  But they have ignored the oline for years, traded away those 2nd rounders and are now going to draft their franchise guy.

This time next year all we will be talking about is the need for oline.

Which is FINE. One thing at a time. You'd rather reach of Oline in this draft and go for the QB NEXT year?

This is the year to get a QB, and with our OLine a MOBILE one, but the CENTRAL piece of the offense would be in place and we can build around it. 

I hear ya, but Rome wasn't built in a day and we're in the middle of a rebuild. The lack of NFL ready OLine players in college is dwindling by the year and why I think Mac prefers to draft raw talent late and see if it develops. 

I'm sure next spring w/$109M in cap space, the Jets will attack the OLine FA class with vigor and fury. 

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12 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said:

Which is FINE. One thing at a time. You'd rather reach of Oline in this draft and go for the QB NEXT year?

This is the year to get a QB, and with our OLine a MOBILE one, but the CENTRAL piece of the offense would be in place and we can build around it. 

I hear ya, but Rome wasn't built in a day and we're in the middle of a rebuild. The lack of NFL ready OLine players in college is dwindling by the year and why I think Mac prefers to draft raw talent late and see if it develops. 

I'm sure next spring w/$109M in cap space, the Jets will attack the OLine FA class with vigor and fury. 

Knowing that we needed a young franchise qb this team should have been building the oline the past two years.  Then you bring in your young qb and have some good young olineman.  Drafting the qb and then trying to get oline is the david carr method.

We had the most cap room this year and did not come away with any great olineman, the best guy signed elsewhere.  Also it is very rare that really good olineman shake free in fa.

We will see what happens but this front office in my mind has done a terrible hob of having a sound long range plan.

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32 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Adding jags to a jaggy oline.  I thought harrison was our good depth or dozier.

Mark my words one injury and this oline is going to implode next year.

We are going the mac/houston special of david carr strat of getting a franchise qb and ignoring the oline for years before hand.

If it's a jaggy oline, then why would one injury cause it to implode if they have jaggy backups? Wouldn't one jag just  replace another Jag? 

Swanson is just depth signing. He is a slightly below average player which is still way better than Wesley Johnson. Even with a horrible center last year Mccown managed to put up good numbers. So the reality is that Oline is much improved, but still not great. 

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13 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

If it's a jaggy oline, then why would one injury cause it to implode if they have jaggy backups? Wouldn't one jag just  replace another Jag? 

Swanson is just depth signing. He is a slightly below average player which is still way better than Wesley Johnson. Even with a horrible center last year Mccown managed to put up good numbers. So the reality is that Oline is much improved, but still not great. 

much improved?  we got a better center.  I would prefer that we had at least a decent oline before getting a young franchise qb.

Also re mccown, where was he the last 3 or 4 games of the year?

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1 hour ago, KRL said:

He was the starting center for DET over the past three years.  Is he going to be a backup

or are we looking to deal Carpenter for a pick?  

He BETTER be a backup. Not much better , if at all, than ole Wesley was.

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1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

Idk what some of you guys are crying over tbh. 

Long/Swanson/Harrison is a fine line up for this year at Center and extremely better than Wesley/Harrison.

Long is a definite upgrade over Johnson. Hell you would be too if you added a little weight . lol 

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1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said:

LOL. Flip my height from 5’6 to 6’5 and i’ll eat all the chicken fingers I can just to give it a shot.?

Needs to be eatin mo cat fish son , Dats hoows youse adds da weight onto ya . lol

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Needs to be eatin mo cat fish son , Dats hoows youse adds da weight onto ya . lol

That’s the next state over man.?? that’s them damn swamp people!

but I won’t lie..give me a bottle of hot sauce and I probably could go crazy on some cat fish.

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