Jet’s receiving core will be dangerous despite lacking a true No.1

[Patriot Killa]

Jets' receiving core will be dangerous despite lacking a true No. 1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jetswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/05/jets-receiving-core-will-be-dangerous-despite-lacking-a-true-no-1/amp/

Back in 2015, the New York Jets featured star wideouts Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall. Both players turned in standout seasons, but there wasn’t much production out of the other New York wide receivers.

Depth was an issue back in 2015 and heading into 2016, general manager Mike Maccagnan did little to add any wide receiver help past what was already on the roster. Apparently, all it took was blowing up the position group in order for Maccagnan to take a step in the right direction.

After parting with Decker and Marshall at the conclusion of the 2016 season, the Jets were left with Quincy Enunwa and Robby Anderson as their top-two targets in the passing game. From there, Maccagnan added depth in the 2017 draft, taking ArDarius Stewart and Chad Hansen in consecutive rounds. Still, his work was not done.

After Enunwa went down with a season-ending neck injury, Maccagnan acquired Jermaine Kearse from the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for Sheldon Richardson. At the time, the move was nothing more than the addition of a solid veteran wideout to help New York survive without its No. 1 wide receiver.

Little did Maccagnan know, the Kearse trade marked the formation of what could now be a dominant wide receiver core heading into 2018.

Kearse and Anderson, despite his fair share of legal issues, are both back and ready to go after near-1,000 yard campaigns. Enunwa returns after a year on the sideline, Stewart and Hansen are both primed to take the next step and Terrelle Pryor is eager to make an instant impact after an injury-riddled season with the Washington Redskins.

In other words, all of the ingredients needed for this unit to be dangerous are already in team facilities.

It goes without saying that the production of the wide receivers depends on how well the quarterback plays. Whether it’s Josh McCown, Teddy Bridgewater or a rookie signal-caller under center, whoever winds up as the starting quarterback will have plenty of help at his disposal.

People always talk about quarterbacks making wide receivers better, but what about wide receivers making quarterbacks look good? New York’s top four receivers (Anderson, Kearse, Enunwa and Pryor) can all get open with relative ease. When one of your two receivers can manage to get separation on almost every play, it’s near impossible for the quarterback not to succeed.

The Jets do lack a true No. 1 wide receiver, the only knock on this group. However, who’s to say Anderson, Kearse or Enunwa can’t put up the same numbers as some of the other “elite” wide receivers around the league? Even if the individual numbers aren’t anything special, it’s better to get production out of three or four receivers than one with nobody else on the depth chart contributing.

First-year offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates has to be giddy with the talent available at his disposal in the passing game. On any given Sunday, any Jets wide receiver has the ability to explode for a big game. Not many cores around the league can claim the same depth, making New York’s wideouts one of the more dangerous groups in all of football.

[JiFtheOracle]

32 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Stewart and Hansen are both primed to take the next step

I like Kearse, Anderson, Enunwa, Pryor but I dont know what he saw last year that make these 2 primed to take the next step.  If anything, the singing of Pryor actually makes them less likely to even make the roster. 

[Untouchable]

I don’t think they’ll be dominant, but it’s a solid core if a guy like Enunwa is healthy and back to form and Anderson can refrain from being such a dumb assh0le.

Anderson, Pryor, Kearse and Enunwa as your Top 4 wideouts isn’t a terrible situation at all.

[Patriot Killa]

Just now, Untouchable said:

I don’t think they’ll be dominant, but it’s a solid core if a guy like Enunwa is healthy and back to form and Anderson can refrain from being such a dumb a$$hole.

Anderson, Pryor, Kearse And Enunwa as your Top 4 wideouts isn’t a terrible situation at all.

Better than what we have had in the past...

Clyde Gates, Stephen Hill, Jeremy Kerley, Chaz Schilens, Saleem Hakim and Greg Salas.

[Untouchable]

2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Better than what we have had in the past...

Clyde Gates, Stephen Hill, Jeremy Kerley, Chaz Schilens, Saleem Hakim and Greg Salas.

Of course

Anyone who thinks this is a terrible WR corps should just look back at the sh*tstains Rex and Idzik were stockpiling 4-5 years ago, Decker excluded. 

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

Of course

Anyone who thinks this is a terrible WR corps should just look back at the sh*tstains Rex and Idzik were stockpiling 4-5 years ago, Decker excluded. 

And even then Decker wasn’t even a #1 like he was being used as. A lot better over the middle or at #2.

[Untouchable]

12 minutes ago, JiF said:

I like Kearse, Anderson, Enunwa, Pryor but I dont know what he saw last year that make these 2 primed to take the next step.  If anything, the singing of Pryor actually makes them less likely to even make the roster. 

I think they definitely keep Hansen, but Stewart is as good as gone IMO.

Anderson, Pryor, Kearse, Enunwa, Hansen and Roberts.

I think those are the 6 wideouts they end up carrying.

[New York Mick]

it doesn’t matter until we have a legitimate QB. 

[joewilly12]

Hope like hell we get a decent QB in the draft because I see Josh McCown flopping like Ryan Fitzpatrick did in year two if he's the starter. 

[MDL_JET]

They’re no big names or flashy guys. But they all add something different with what they do, and if they can all be on the field, no injuries or suspensions, then it’s a good group. Shouldn’t hold an offense back. 

I’d hope we can find a dynamic back to compliment things more. 

[Tony MaC]

I'm wary but optimistic about this unit.

Even despite not having a top tier target I like what's there on paper, its just that there are too many variables with them. Q needs to fully rehab from injury, Pryor may or may not be a flash in the pan, Anderson's off field antics hurt his on field progress and last year's rookies may or may not develop into regular contributors.

The only WR I have little doubt about is Kearse. I have to believe at least a FEW players will be just fine but I'm not counting on any individual to turn out big numbers.

 

[RoadFan]

What is a "true #1?"  How many are there?

NE, MIA, Benji? Do these teams have one?

AntBrown, AJ Green, CLE (Gordon?)

KC, Keenan?, Cooper?, DmT?

Nuk, TY?, JAX, TEN?

OBJ, WAS, PHI, DAL?

DET, MIN (2 good WRs), GB, CHI?

Baldwin?, SF, Fitz?, Cooks?

Evans, Julio, Thomas?, CAR?

 

By my count there are maybe 8-12 of these "#1" WRs people yap about.  MAYBE.  I dont even have it that high.  I think the super elite is like about 6 of them. 

This #1 WR thing is not a necessity.  The premise of this thread is correct.  The Jets have holes, but the WR group is very low on the list. 

I still think many of you underestimate just how good Robby can be.  He is still an immature punk.  But Ocho sees his talent.  B-marsh sees it.  I see it... with less cred of course.   The Jets have chosen not to throw in the towel on Robby.  So pour in whatever necessary resources, get this kid under control, and he could be the #1.

 

[joewilly12]

The NY Jets haven't had a true #1 WR since Keyshawn Johnson. 

[varjet]

39 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I think they definitely keep Hansen, but Stewart is as good as gone IMO.

Anderson, Pryor, Kearse, Enunwa, Hansen and Roberts.

I think those are the 6 wideouts they end up carrying.

Macc better home run the draft this year, because Stewart could have been Elflein or Kareem Hunt. 

Stewart will make the team, because otherwise Mac digs himself a deeper hole.  he does operate like that.  

[shuler82]

And aren’t all of them (besides the 2017 draft picks) free agents next year?

[Thai Jet]

58 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I don’t think they’ll be dominant, but it’s a solid core if a guy like Enunwa is healthy and back to form and Anderson can refrain from being such a dumb assh0le.

Anderson, Pryor, Kearse and Enunwa as your Top 4 wideouts isn’t a terrible situation at all.

Barring injuries I'm excited about our WR's. Solid core with Stewart and Hansen, who's a burner, waiting in the wings.

[rangerous]

21 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

What is a "true #1?"  How many are there?

NE, MIA, Benji? Do these teams have one?

AntBrown, AJ Green, CLE (Gordon?)

KC, Keenan?, Cooper?, DmT?

Nuk, TY?, JAX, TEN?

OBJ, WAS, PHI, DAL?

DET, MIN (2 good WRs), GB, CHI?

Baldwin?, SF, Fitz?, Cooks?

Evans, Julio, Thomas?, CAR?

 

By my count there are maybe 8-12 of these "#1" WRs people yap about.  MAYBE.  I dont even have it that high.  I think the super elite is like about 6 of them. 

This #1 WR thing is not a necessity.  The premise of this thread is correct.  The Jets have holes, but the WR group is very low on the list. 

I still think many of you underestimate just how good Robby can be.  He is still an immature punk.  But Ocho sees his talent.  B-marsh sees it.  I see it... with less cred of course.   The Jets have chosen not to throw in the towel on Robby.  So pour in whatever necessary resources, get this kid under control, and he could be the #1.

 

good points.  the no. 1 receiver will typically be a ball hog.  as long as the jet receivers buy into the team thing and not throw hissy fits if they don't get their fair share of passes they should work out well.

[Patriot Killa]

26 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

What is a "true #1?"  How many are there?

NE, MIA, Benji? Do these teams have one?

AntBrown, AJ Green, CLE (Gordon?)

KC, Keenan?, Cooper?, DmT?

Nuk, TY?, JAX, TEN?

OBJ, WAS, PHI, DAL?

DET, MIN (2 good WRs), GB, CHI?

Baldwin?, SF, Fitz?, Cooks?

Evans, Julio, Thomas?, CAR?

 

By my count there are maybe 8-12 of these "#1" WRs people yap about.  MAYBE.  I dont even have it that high.  I think the super elite is like about 6 of them. 

This #1 WR thing is not a necessity.  The premise of this thread is correct.  The Jets have holes, but the WR group is very low on the list. 

I still think many of you underestimate just how good Robby can be.  He is still an immature punk.  But Ocho sees his talent.  B-marsh sees it.  I see it... with less cred of course.   The Jets have chosen not to throw in the towel on Robby.  So pour in whatever necessary resources, get this kid under control, and he could be the #1.

 

Good post. I agree. The kid is very thin framed but he is tall, lengthy and can still win 50/50 balls more times than not despite his weight. If he can calm his ass down in the offseason, he can actually be our #1.

[PepPep]

1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

it doesn’t matter until we have a legitimate QB. 

This 100%. 

Although sometimes you have to look at the WR position on its own. We really don't know how well or how poorly Teddy, McCown and rookie will play this season...but we can assume that they won't be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers, so they WILL need some decent talent at WR.  

The Jets don't have any one dominant WR but they have a great mix of guys that can do different things and that is how you take advantage of opposing defenses. The one thing they are lacking is a legit pass catching TE. Hopefully one of the guys Macc has picked up off the FA scrap heap or Leggett can churn out some production. 

Anderson, Enunwa (assuming he is healthy), Pryor, and Kearse are pretty much locks. 

Then you have some great competition between Hansen, Stewart, Peake, Marshall and Roberts (the latter 2 can also vie as returners).

And then you have a group of guys that are long shots but could still make the team if there are injuries or if they play their butts off, including, dare I say Devin Smith. 

And this is not including any WRs we may pick up in the draft or UDFAs.    

[JetFaninMI]

Hopefully The Jets will add one or two more guys in the draft or FA before TC. I am satisfied with Pryor, Anderson, and Kearse. Everything the Jets have after that is a question mark. Hopefully Enunwa can come back but until he is on the field you just don't know. Anderson may get suspended and can blow up at anytime between now and the start of the season. If Anderson can make it through the summer without anymore incidents I will feel a lot better about him. As you can see I'm not as optimistic as some are when it comes to the WR position. I still think they need to draft a RB to throw into the mix for TC as well. The skill positions on offense worry me at this point and I hope they can add some guys to compete in TC.

[joewilly12]

Hopefully the Jets don't add anymore JAG's to WR corps we need some legitimate help hopefully someone decent is let go or Macc can pull off a trade.Im concerned about our #1 WR being Anderson or Pryor. 

[Gas2No99]

3 hours ago, Untouchable said:

I think they definitely keep Hansen, but Stewart is as good as gone IMO.

Anderson, Pryor, Kearse, Enunwa, Hansen and Roberts.

I think those are the 6 wideouts they end up carrying.

I think he'll eventually find his place and be the bar-nosed WR he's touted to be. Think Laverneus Coles - esque Slant/Hitch/Dig Routes over the middle with YAC ability. I have faith he's stick. If Mauldin is still around as a 3rd rounder, Stewart will definitely stick; he's an ideal WCO Possession #2 WR.  

[Gas2No99]

3 hours ago, MDL_JET said:

They’re no big names or flashy guys. But they all add something different with what they do, and if they can all be on the field, no injuries or suspensions, then it’s a good group. Shouldn’t hold an offense back. 

I’d hope we can find a dynamic back to compliment things more. 

Aside from Stewart (5'11") the WR unit is is 6'1" (Kearse) and up (Q 6'2", RA 6'3" Hanson 6'2", Pryor 6'4" )

 I like the size we have in this young unit. 

[Paradis]

4 hours ago, Patriot Killa said:

Jets' receiving core will be dangerous despite lacking a true No. 1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/jetswire.usatoday.com/2018/04/05/jets-receiving-core-will-be-dangerous-despite-lacking-a-true-no-1/amp/

Back in 2015, the New York Jets featured star wideouts Eric Decker and Brandon Marshall. Both players turned in standout seasons, but there wasn’t much production out of the other New York wide receivers.

Depth was an issue back in 2015 and heading into 2016, general manager Mike Maccagnan did little to add any wide receiver help past what was already on the roster. Apparently, all it took was blowing up the position group in order for Maccagnan to take a step in the right direction.

After parting with Decker and Marshall at the conclusion of the 2016 season, the Jets were left with Quincy Enunwa and Robby Anderson as their top-two targets in the passing game. From there, Maccagnan added depth in the 2017 draft, taking ArDarius Stewart and Chad Hansen in consecutive rounds. Still, his work was not done.

After Enunwa went down with a season-ending neck injury, Maccagnan acquired Jermaine Kearse from the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for Sheldon Richardson. At the time, the move was nothing more than the addition of a solid veteran wideout to help New York survive without its No. 1 wide receiver.

Little did Maccagnan know, the Kearse trade marked the formation of what could now be a dominant wide receiver core heading into 2018.

Kearse and Anderson, despite his fair share of legal issues, are both back and ready to go after near-1,000 yard campaigns. Enunwa returns after a year on the sideline, Stewart and Hansen are both primed to take the next step and Terrelle Pryor is eager to make an instant impact after an injury-riddled season with the Washington Redskins.

In other words, all of the ingredients needed for this unit to be dangerous are already in team facilities.

It goes without saying that the production of the wide receivers depends on how well the quarterback plays. Whether it’s Josh McCown, Teddy Bridgewater or a rookie signal-caller under center, whoever winds up as the starting quarterback will have plenty of help at his disposal.

People always talk about quarterbacks making wide receivers better, but what about wide receivers making quarterbacks look good? New York’s top four receivers (Anderson, Kearse, Enunwa and Pryor) can all get open with relative ease. When one of your two receivers can manage to get separation on almost every play, it’s near impossible for the quarterback not to succeed.

The Jets do lack a true No. 1 wide receiver, the only knock on this group. However, who’s to say Anderson, Kearse or Enunwa can’t put up the same numbers as some of the other “elite” wide receivers around the league? Even if the individual numbers aren’t anything special, it’s better to get production out of three or four receivers than one with nobody else on the depth chart contributing.

First-year offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates has to be giddy with the talent available at his disposal in the passing game. On any given Sunday, any Jets wide receiver has the ability to explode for a big game. Not many cores around the league can claim the same depth, making New York’s wideouts one of the more dangerous groups in all of football.

this is one area i'm more pessimistic than others.... 

"Hansen and Stewart are primed to take the step".... ? really. Define primed. 

I don't see a true stable. I see a handful of stand-ins, and depth players. Pryor the closest thing to a legit piece to plan around. Anderson as well - but i think he's a moron. 

 

[Saul Goodman]

I try not to label players as busts too early...but Stewart’s a bust. His slow, clumsy feet and lack of coordination on the field make him stand out, and not in a good way.

Hoping that Hansen can develop though. 

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said:

Aside from Stewart (5'11") the WR unit is is 6'1" (Kearse) and up (Q 6'2", RA 6'3" Hanson 6'2", Pryor 6'4" )

 I like the size we have in this young unit. 

Charone Peake is 6' 3" 

[Integrity28]

This thread takes me back to the ‘we need a real #1 WR’ years, which were golden in comparison to the ‘we need a real ultimate rebuild’ years we’re in the midst of.

[joewilly12]

2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

This thread takes me back to the ‘we need a real #1 WR’ years, which were golden in comparison to the ‘we need a real ultimate rebuild’ years we’re in the midst of.

So you been here before?   

[Integrity28]

5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said:

So you been here before?   

That’s a pretty stale pickup line, sweet t!ts.

[joewilly12]

2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

That’s a pretty stale pickup line, sweet t!ts.

Get your mind out of the gutter sheesh a Jets fan and you aren't getting laid at home. COME ON MAN 

[Gas2No99]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

Charone Peake is 6' 3" 

I liked him and thought it was excellent value at the time. Good tall possession WR, but he's injury prone and has shown WHY he fell to the 7th round. Easily injured and can't get much separation when he IS on the field. This is year 3 for him, so it's make or break. I, sadly, don't think he'll make it past the initial TC cuts; hope I'm wrong. 

[RobR]

2 hours ago, Gas2No99 said:

I think he'll eventually find his place and be the bar-nosed WR he's touted to be. Think Laverneus Coles - esque Slant/Hitch/Dig Routes over the middle with YAC ability. I have faith he's stick. If Mauldin is still around as a 3rd rounder, Stewart will definitely stick; he's an ideal WCO Possession #2 WR.  

He is nothing like Coles, so I'm not sure how you came up with that comparison. He catches passes out of the backfield and has no wiggle or functional speed.....Coles was great at deep seam passes.

[Gas2No99]

2 minutes ago, RobR said:

He is nothing like Coles, so I'm not sure how you came up with that comparison. He catches passes out of the backfield and has no wiggle or functional speed.....Coles was great at deep seam passes.

Read his scouting reports and the way he's described. To me, Stewart's playing style sounds VERY much like the type of player Coles was during his 2nd stint w/the Jets; and Coles was NO seam breaker/deep threat like he was (2000-'04) before his toe surgery in 2005. 

Matter of opinion and I believe Stewart will be much the type of player Coles was for the Jet 2006-2008. Just my opinion. 

[TnT]

2016 Enunwa & Pryor

2017 Kearse & Anderson

This group would cause some damage.

[RobR]

I could care less what their scouting reports said, just watch them play and I'm basing the comparisons on Coles before he was drafted. They're nothing alike except for maybe H/W. Now you want too compare them to Coles second stint with the Jets which was basically a cup of coffee. Maybe I need more bolded and italicized words to understand your point.

Your opinion about Stewart being like Coles is wrong....but just an opinion.