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David Harris

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Figured we could take a break from Rosen/Mayfield/Allen.

so who ya want for pick #72?

Any chance Orlando Brown OT falls there after his historically awful combine?  He could get in a pro weight training program for a year and could be a LT after Beachum moves on.

i have a bad feeling it’ll be another DL to fill holes left by Sheldon and Mo.

RB room seems full

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1 minute ago, Il Mostro said:

There has to be a good safety or two still there when we pick.

It COULD happen I suppose but I'd be shocked if Orlando dropped to the 3rd round. Thinking along thos lines I would hope they target the best available player at a position of need. OL I would hope heads that list.

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9 minutes ago, David Harris said:

Figured we could take a break from Rosen/Mayfield/Allen.

so who ya want for pick #72?

Any chance Orlando Brown OT falls there after his historically awful combine?  He could get in a pro weight training program for a year and could be a LT after Beachum moves on.

i have a bad feeling it’ll be another DL to fill holes left by Sheldon and Mo.

RB room seems full

I’m thinking edge, perhaps someone like Ejiofor or Jeff Holland.  I would like them to add a young OL like Braden Smith or Mason Cole, or even Jamarco Jones.

We could get a big nose in the 4th, like B.J. Hill, Norton, Nandi, or even Justin Jones.

We could also just go BAP and grab someone who may unexpectedly fall like Anthony Miller, Nyheim Hines, Ian Thomas, or even Tolliver (adding yet another LSU DB.)

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OL, Brian O’Neil: has plus athleticism and experience playing TE, LT, and could start at LG until he fills out.

OG, Braden Smith: would be the other OL exception I’d bypass a pass-rusher for...not because I don’t value protecting our new QB, but because the smaller/athleticer lineman tend to drop in drafts which is one of the benefits of going Zone.  Smith, is an exceptional player though. If he’s there in the third, I’d have to think hard about leaving him on the board. 

Edge, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo: he’s a high motor player lacking height but he has freakishly long arms and an array of pass rush moves. He’s like the Baker Mayfield of pass rushers. 

Other Edge guys I don’t like as much as “OO” ...Josh Sweat looks the part and had crazy testing scores, Lorenzo Carter and Jeff Holland are to pass rushing what Jordan Jenkins’ is to setting the edge. 

DL, Taven Bryan: DE doesn’t figure to be a position we address in the 3rd round, given the depth of the position in this class, but I could see the exception being made for a couple prospects (Taven, Da’Shawn Hand, Rasheem Green, )...though I’d rather wait for an Andrew Brown or Kylie Fitts in a later round, it would be hard to pass up on a guy getting JJ Watt comps. 

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3 minutes ago, Pcola said:

I’m thinking edge, perhaps someone like Ejiofor or Jeff Holland.  I would like them to add a young OL like Braden Smith or Mason Cole, or even Jamarco Jones.

We could get a big nose in the 4th, like B.J. Hill, Norton, Nandi, or even Justin Jones.

We could also just go BAP and grab someone who may unexpectedly fall like Anthony Miller, Nyheim Hines, Ian Thomas, or even Tolliver (adding yet another LSU DB.)

Jamarco Jones would be a great pick since he's an OT. I love Cole but we're fairly well covered at C and it would be hard for him to work outside.

If he falls I'd pick up Tyrell Crosby from Oregon. Again a OT who you could move inside if you had to.

 

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2 hours ago, Pcola said:

I’m thinking edge, perhaps someone like Ejiofor or Jeff Holland. 

 

Jeff Holland 

the Mud Sensei 

 

Excerpts from NFL.com profile

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jeff-holland?id=32462018-0002-5601-723b-a43b12dbffb8

  • Play is fierce and physical
  • Banger who looks to be as violent a tackler as possible
  • Was in the quarterback's business all year long

Jets scouts/coaches are all over this video

 

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2 hours ago, Greenseed4 said:

OL, Brian O’Neil: has plus athleticism and experience playing TE, LT, and could start at LG until he fills out.

OG, Braden Smith: would be the other OL exception I’d bypass a pass-rusher for...not because I don’t value protecting our new QB, but because the smaller/athleticer lineman tend to drop in drafts which is one of the benefits of going Zone.  Smith, is an exceptional player though. If he’s there in the third, I’d have to think hard about leaving him on the board. 

Edge, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo: he’s a high motor player lacking height but he has freakishly long arms and an array of pass rush moves. He’s like the Baker Mayfield of pass rushers. 

Other Edge guys I don’t like as much as “OO” ...Josh Sweat looks the part and had crazy testing scores, Lorenzo Carter and Jeff Holland are to pass rushing what Jordan Jenkins’ is to setting the edge. 

DL, Taven Bryan: DE doesn’t figure to be a position we address in the 3rd round, given the depth of the position in this class, but I could see the exception being made for a couple prospects (Taven, Da’Shawn Hand, Rasheem Green, )...though I’d rather wait for an Andrew Brown or Kylie Fitts in a later round, it would be hard to pass up on a guy getting JJ Watt comps. 

Now I know why you were 'confused' by the Detroit draft.  You think Bryan is available in the 3rd round.  He doesn't last past early 2nd round in any mock I've seen ever, and usually is mid-late first.  Getting him in the 3rd would be incredible but also simply not feasible.

 

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1 hour ago, nycdan said:

Now I know why you were 'confused' by the Detroit draft.  You think Bryan is available in the 3rd round.  He doesn't last past early 2nd round in any mock I've seen ever, and usually is mid-late first.  Getting him in the 3rd would be incredible but also simply not feasible.

 

I was confused because you drafted the same RB in two different rounds. 

I’ve seen a single (recent) Fanspeak that had Taven available at our pick in the 3rd, but the point remains, the position in this class is deep, and while I wouldn’t target a DT (to play 3-4 DE) in the third round, there are some outlier prospects that would warrant the decision. 

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I'm very happy with Isiah Crowell, but this is a great RB draft class and there is a good chance a top end RB prospect will fall to us. You don't need Saquon Barkley talent to be an elite RB in the NFL. 

More likely to be there in the 3rd:

Rashaad Penny

Kalen Ballage

Could fall to the 3rd:

Ronald Jones- I know many people here love him but he is small and doesn't have elite speed. Kamara fell for the same reasons so I think NFL scouts won't make that mistake again, but you never know. 

Kerryon Johnson

 

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1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

I'm very happy with Isiah Crowell, but this is a great RB draft class and there is a good chance a top end RB prospect will fall to us. You don't need Saquon Barkley talent to be an elite RB in the NFL. 

More likely to be there in the 3rd:

Rashaad Penny

Kalen Ballage

Could fall to the 3rd:

Ronald Jones- I know many people here love him but he is small and doesn't have elite speed. Kamara fell for the same reasons so I think NFL scouts won't make that mistake again, but you never know. 

Kerryon Johnson

 

Macc seems hell-bent on collecting running backs from other NFL teams (Crowell and Rawls already this year). With Powell and McGuire already on the roster, I wonder whether the Jets will use a third round pick on a running back. Rawls may not make it through training camp, but I suspect Maccagnan sees Crowell and Powell as the top two backs on the roster and the Jets don't need to add a running back early in the draft.

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1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

I'm very happy with Isiah Crowell, but this is a great RB draft class and there is a good chance a top end RB prospect will fall to us. You don't need Saquon Barkley talent to be an elite RB in the NFL. 

More likely to be there in the 3rd:

Rashaad Penny

Kalen Ballage

Could fall to the 3rd:

Ronald Jones- I know many people here love him but he is small and doesn't have elite speed. Kamara fell for the same reasons so I think NFL scouts won't make that mistake again, but you never know. 

Kerryon Johnson

 

Ronald Jones doesn’t have elite speed? Have you seen him play?

Or, are you basing that off his combine 40 time? Cause go watch the tape... of both. 

 

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2 hours ago, Greenseed4 said:

Ronald Jones doesn’t have elite speed? Have you seen him play?

Or, are you basing that off his combine 40 time? Cause go watch the tape... of both. 

 

Definitely has to be basing it off his 40 time. None of these top running backs tested under 4.5 and the very top ones including Jones rested at 4.6

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9 hours ago, Il Mostro said:

You, sir, are quite mistaken.

Only gender neutral pronouns, please. I will call for an advertisement ban and stage protests outside Phil’s home ? until I have had my apology. “You, gender unspecified person, are quite mistaken”

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How about teammates of the Jets 1st round pick #3, complementary OL or WR from Oklahoma or UCLA that could help the new QB?

OT Orlando Brown tops the list if available. TE Mark Andrews could be very interesting and should be there, C/G Erick Wren later the draft 

C/G Scott Quessenberry (3rd or later, at 283), WR Jordan Lasley (could be good value if dropies fixed) 

UCLA Kolton Miller will be long gone

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6 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

How about teammates of the Jets 1st round pick #3, complementary OL or WR from Oklahoma or UCLA that could help the new QB?

OT Orlando Brown tops the list if available. TE Mark Andrews could be very interesting and should be there, C/G Erick Wren later the draft 

C/G Scott Quessenberry (3rd or later, at 283), WR Jordan Lasley (could be good value if dropies fixed) 

UCLA WR Kolton Miller will be long gone

Keep Quessenberry as far away from Rosen as physically possible. That man gave up the MOST sacks this season and Kolton Miller wasn’t far behind. I just got done rewatching the UCLA/USC tape and the UCLA/Colorado tape..the line looked atrocious and Quessenberry was a big reason for that.

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7 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Keep Quessenberry as far away from Rosen as physically possible. That man gave up the MOST sacks this season and Kolton Miller wasn’t far behind. I just got done rewatching the UCLA/USC tape and the UCLA/Colorado tape..the line looked atrocious and Quessenberry was a big reason for that.

Thanks, Quessenberry did seem light for a C but had a decent ranking, does not seem like Rosen had much help at UCLA, Lasley had a high drop rate 

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4 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Thanks, Quessenberry did seem light for a C but had a decent ranking, does not seem like Rosen had much help at UCLA 

Yeah, he is a pretty light for a C. Got tossed around a lot by inferior competition. That’s a big part in why USC won that game. They already have a good pass rusher in Nwosu and a few others. The pressure UCLA’s line was allowing on Rosen was tremendous. Rosen only could climb the pocket a handful of times in that game..the rest he was laying on his back. 

Didnt get much help at all. His WR’s were pretty lackluster to boot.

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7 hours ago, Greenseed4 said:

Ronald Jones doesn’t have elite speed? Have you seen him play?

Or, are you basing that off his combine 40 time? Cause go watch the tape... of both. 

 

LMAO, did you even read the rest of my post? I compared his situation to Kamara, another player that looked incredibly fast in college but ran a poor 40. It helps to finish sentences before responding.

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Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said:

LMAO, did you even read the rest of my post? I compared his situation to Kamara, another player that looked incredibly fast in college but ran a poor 40. It helps to finish sentences before responding.

They both had decent 3 cone drills and such. Showed nice agility. Definitely see some comparisons between the two as well as their situations.

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Blog reader 1: We should draft the guy!

Blog reader 2: The guy might not be there at 72.

Blog reader 1: Lol stfu newb you clearly didn’t even watch his games if you think he won’t be there

Blog reader 2: I’ve seen everything he’s done since high school 

Blog reader 1: (begins to talk about guy’s combine metrics like he even knows what the **** they mean)

Blog reader 3: Jason La Canfora says we like the other guy better than the guy

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41 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

LMAO, did you even read the rest of my post? I compared his situation to Kamara, another player that looked incredibly fast in college but ran a poor 40. It helps to finish sentences before responding.

Didn’t he run a 4.48 at his pro day last Thursday? 

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