Warfish Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 28 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I apologize but I prefer a play first talk later players. I do too. But some days we have to face facts, it's not 1958 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: I do too. But some days we have to face facts, it's not 1958 anymore. Considering we were both born after that prolly a pretty good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, KRL said: To beat NE and win the division we'll need "alpha dogs" who aren't scared. and here I was thinking what we needed were good players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, KRL said: To beat NE and win the division we'll need "alpha dogs" who aren't scared. If Mayfield has shown those traits more than any other QB, bring him in Alpha dog who can also accurately complete passes at all points of the field and has an “us vs them / winning = breathing” mentality. Sign me up. The true hidden test for all these QB’s is private workouts. How is the prospect at retaining and understanding the concepts of your system? Is he completing the passes during the workout that you need for him to make in your system, while being able to tailor your offense to a prospect’s skill set? Reports are saying Mayfield is blowing away teams at the whiteboard. Is he completing those out routes to the sideline from the pocket without rolling way out to that side? Or are you willing to adjust accordingly? Bates system is big on bootlegs and rollouts, so Mayfield fits our system. Basically who do we love more? Rosen or Mayfield? Id say Bowles and Bates love Mayfields alpha mentality and want him. I say Mac and Heirmdinger love Rosen’s prototype near perfection more. Lets see who Johnson & Johnson pick with the tie breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I really want Mayfield to be the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 41 minutes ago, KRL said: To beat NE and win the division we'll need "alpha dogs" who aren't scared. If Mayfield has shown those traits more than any other QB, bring him in To beat the cheaters you need to have your owner be in charge of the television contracts to get the favorable schedule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Wait, didnt Adams basically tweet yesterday that he wants nothing to do with Baker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, JiF said: Wait, didnt Adams basically tweet yesterday that he wants nothing to do with Baker? No he basically said he liked the QBs they currently have "Josh and Teddy" specifically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: If pretty well is the target for the overall sixth pick we must be just drafting for a heartbeat by the third round. Kid had an ok first season if we ignore draft spot. Him putting himself constantly in front of us with statements of grandeur makes it harder to ignore that draft spot. I apologize but I prefer a play first talk later players. Yeah but the dance parties while sitting 4-10 are going to be awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, dbatesman said: and here I was thinking what we needed were good players That's part of it. Steelers have good players and yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: No he basically said he liked the QBs they currently have "Josh and Teddy" specifically No Jamal AdamsVerified account @TheAdamsEra FollowFollow @TheAdamsEra More NICE FOR WHAT 11:54 AM - 10 Apr 2018 235 Retweets 670 Likes 6 replies235 retweets670 likes Reply 6 Retweet 235 Like 670 Draftbaker @DianeMRicci 12h12 hours ago More Replying to @TheAdamsEra It’s nice that Baker will be your QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: That's part of it. Steelers have good players and yet... Eagles players werent as good, but they were all "alpha dogs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, JiF said: No Jamal AdamsVerified account @TheAdamsEra FollowFollow @TheAdamsEra More NICE FOR WHAT 11:54 AM - 10 Apr 2018 235 Retweets 670 Likes 6 replies235 retweets670 likes Reply 6 Retweet 235 Like 670 Draftbaker @DianeMRicci 12h12 hours ago More Replying to @TheAdamsEra It’s nice that Baker will be your QB He followed it up. Keep looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: He followed it up. Keep looking Back tracking is cool once you've actually stated your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Wait a minute. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT EVEN MEAN, @JiF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, JiF said: Back tracking is cool once you've actually stated your opinion. Maybe if I understood what the hell that statement means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Warfish said: The Hateboner some folks have for Adams is funny. Wait, no, not funny, sad. That's it, sad. I didn't want a Safety in the first round last year either, but it is what it is. Kid played pretty well for a rookie, and he's proud and outspokenly Pro-Jets on social media. So.....given reality of today, whats the problem? Agreed. What I don't understand is how some will actually hope for a player, like Adams, to fail so they can "I told you so " us to death. Spare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Eagles players werent as good, but they were all "alpha dogs" They had a coach who acted like one. I'm surprised nobody got the Bowles dig in after this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 NFL Nation Choose Blog... NFL Nation AFC North Baltimore Ravens Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals Pittsburgh Steelers AFC South Houston Texans Indianapolis Colts Jacksonville Jaguars Tennessee Titans AFC East Buffalo Bills Miami Dolphins New England Patriots New York Jets AFC West Denver Broncos Kansas City Chiefs Oakland Raiders Los Angeles Chargers NFC North Chicago Bears Detroit Lions Green Bay Packers Minnesota Vikings NFC South Atlanta Falcons New Orleans Saints Carolina Panthers Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFC East Dallas Cowboys New York Giants Philadelphia Eagles Washington Redskins NFC West Arizona Cardinals Los Angeles Rams San Francisco 49ers Seattle Seahawks Baker Mayfield to Jets? It's possible, and it makes a lot of sense pl 7:00 AM ET Rich CiminiESPN Staff Writer comment With the third pick in the NFL draft, the New York Jets are expected to select a quarterback. We'll preview the top four prospects -- Josh Allen, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen. On Monday, we profiled Allen. On Tuesday, Darnold. Next up: Mayfield. Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma 6-foot-1, 215 pounds In a nutshell: Mayfield is a modern-day version of Rudy, except he did more than just get into the game. He dominated it at the highest level -- for three years. The two-time walk-on (Texas Tech, Oklahoma) is one of the most decorated players in college football history, a brash playmaker who infuriated opponents with his on-field antics and trash talking but endeared himself to teammates and the state of Oklahoma. He's the most compelling prospect in the draft. He's a winner with ridiculous accuracy, but his height and spread-offense background are concerns. There's also the character issue: In February 2017, Mayfield was arrested, and he later pleaded guilty to public intoxication, fleeing police and disorderly conduct. A dash-cam video of the incident went viral, showing him shouting and cursing police officers. Mayfield has top-10 talent, but the baggage could cause some teams to shy away. Baker Mayfield has the skill set, but some wonder about his size and how he'd handle New York. Mark D. Smith/USA TODAY Sports How he fits the Jets: They've warmed to him over the past year, so much so that some people around the league believe the Jets will draft him. It would be an outside-the-box choice for general manager Mike Maccagnan, but it could turn out to be a genius move. Mayfield's confidence and fiery competitiveness would infuse the franchise with hope and -- dare we say it? -- swagger. When was the last time the Jets got that from a young quarterback? Schematically, he'd be an ideal fit in their West Coast offense. He reads quickly, puts the ball in small windows and can throw on the move -- a 67 percent completion rate on such passes. The two best indicators of NFL success are starting experience and completion rate, and Mayfield (38-8 and 69.8) is heads and shoulders above the other top quarterback prospects. His metrics are among the best in history, according to Football Outsiders. Other than his size, the biggest questions surrounding him pertain to non-football matters: Would he self-destruct in New York? Could his sizable ego handle backup duty? The Jets have done a lot of homework on Mayfield, who dined with CEO Christopher Johnson on Monday night. Former Jets quarterback Chad Pennington, who has tutored him throughout the pre-draft process, told ESPN recently that Mayfield can succeed in the Big Apple if he's surrounded by the right support group. Pennington said, "When you approach this business as an entertainer, you will get eaten up. You have to keep it about the game of football." My sense is that Mayfield could be the pick at No. 3. Oh, baby, that would be seismic. After years of playing it safe, it's time to make a bold move. By the numbers: Mayfield's Oklahoma career was legendary: three Big 12 titles, two College Football Playoff berths and one Heisman Trophy. ... He went 38-8 as a starter, including 5-2 as a true freshman at Texas Tech. He left Tech when the coach opened up the quarterback job. He walked on at Oklahoma without an invitation. ... In three years at Oklahoma, he led the FBS with 119 touchdown passes. ... Critics say his completion percentage is inflated because of so many hitches and quick screens, but he actually completed 53 percent of his attempts on throws of at least 21 yards -- best among Power 5 quarterbacks in 2017. ... He set an FBS record with multiple TD passes in 27 straight games. ... He became the first walk-on to win the Heisman. ... He scored a 25 on the Wonderlic intelligence test -- above average, but lower than Allen, Darnold and Rosen. ... His 40 time was 4.84 seconds. What evaluators are saying: Mike Mayock of NFL Network: "Components of the West Coast system fit him well, but there has to be components of the RPO [run-pass opton] and play-action. Get him out on the run. He’s an exciting talent. I think an intelligent coach will know how to use him to the best of his ability." ... ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr.: "Baker brings a lot of that drama with him. ... That’s one of the concerns with Baker Mayfield, in addition to being 6-foot-and a half." ... Dolphins coach Adam Gase: "I think Baker's personality is something that's infectious to other guys. I think there's a competitiveness you love to see. You can tell he doesn't want to lose at anything he's doing." ... Former Giants VP of player evaluation Marc Ross, on ESPN: "Baker's my favorite guy of these guys. To me, Baker just has it." In his own words: "Teams ask me about my character, but until you sit down and talk to me directly, you might have image that’s portrayed in stories or headlines. But I love the game, I’m up front and honest, I know exactly what I’m about and that’s the most important thing. What you see is what you get. I’ve always been brutally honest and some people don’t like that because it’s rare nowadays. But I go into these meetings and I’m just myself. I want to get drafted to a team that knows exactly what they’re getting.’’-- Mayfield at the scouting combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: UEFA Champions League FT ROMA 3 BAR 0 2nd LegAgg. 4-4 Wow! Rome beat Barca! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, JiF said: No Jamal AdamsVerified account @TheAdamsEra FollowFollow @TheAdamsEra More NICE FOR WHAT 11:54 AM - 10 Apr 2018 235 Retweets 670 Likes 6 replies235 retweets670 likes Reply 6 Retweet 235 Like 670 Draftbaker @DianeMRicci 12h12 hours ago More Replying to @TheAdamsEra It’s nice that Baker will be your QB He is huge drake fan . And “Nice for what” is the name of drake new song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Maybe if I understood what the hell that statement means It means, Jamal Adams was like **** no, to the idea of Baker Mayfield. And then someone was like, yo, presidentmal, we might draft him. And theAdamsEra was like, oh sh*t, better do some damage control and say something that isnt mean to Baker incase we take him. So I'll say something that isnt exactly nice either, lets try this..... Yo! my peeps on tweeter who love me as much as I love myself! I like my QB's Teddy and Joshy, that's all your prez was trying to say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Scoop24 said: He is huge drake fan . And “Nice for what” is the name of drake new song What a clever cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Just now, JiF said: What a clever cover. 1 minute ago, JiF said: It means, Jamal Adams was like **** no, to the idea of Baker Mayfield. And then someone was like, yo, presidentmal, we might draft him. And theAdamsEra was like, oh sh*t, better do some damage control and say something that isnt mean to Baker incase we take him. So I'll say something that isnt exactly nice either, lets try this..... Yo! my peeps on tweeter who love me as much as I love myself! I like my QB's Teddy and Joshy, that's all your prez was trying to say! Thank you, Childish Gambino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, JiF said: What a clever cover. Also the Draft baker women tweet was in response to the Adams “nice for what” tweet. Adams didn’t respond to her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Thank you, Childish Gambino Just now, Scoop24 said: Also Draft baker women tweet was in response to Adams to “nice for what”tweet. Adans didn’t respond to that her This is what I get for actually looking at tweeter and trying to figure out wtf people are doing on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Both are busts so birds of a feather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, JiF said: This is what I get for actually looking at tweeter and trying to figure out wtf people are doing on it. U will get use it . Just need more time with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 This means NOTHING. Maybe he ran into Jamal and thought he was a cool dude. Again. This means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, KRL said: To beat NE and win the division we'll need "alpha dogs" who aren't scared. If Mayfield has shown those traits more than any other QB, bring him in He hasn’t just “shown” alpha dog traits, he’s grabbed them, angled them at oposing sidelines, and shaken them at a medium pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, PepPep said: This means NOTHING. Maybe he ran into Jamal and thought he was a cool dude. Again. This means nothing. Agreed The bigger story is Mayfield’s hotass girlfriend who I’d let sh*t in my mouth. https://mobile.twitter.com/wesfrdrk/status/983937954400952321?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewyorkjetshampur.com%2Fthread%2F8896%2Freport-baker-mayfield-priority-number&tfw_site=jetshampur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 minute ago, PepPep said: This means NOTHING. Maybe he ran into Jamal and thought he was a cool dude. Again. This means nothing. Have the jets started team Workouts yet ? Maybe they met on baker 2 day visit to the facility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Considering we were both born after that prolly a pretty good thing. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bitonti Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 double post im a grown ass man who can barely use a phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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