Gas2No99 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Mock draft 1.0: Jets settle for third quarterback off the board Will the Jets be able to choose between Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen at No. 3? Brian Spurlock/USA TODAY Sports by Rich Cimini I suppose it's that time. Only 11 days to the draft, so let's mock. 1. Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, USC. The latest buzz suggests the Browns will take Josh Allen, but I'm not buying in just yet. I have a hard time believing general manager John Dorsey will gamble on a quarterback who had accuracy issues against mediocre competition. 2. Bills (from the Giants, through the Broncos): Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA. Desperate for a quarterback, the Bills pull off a double jump, going from No. 12 to No. 2, using the Broncos (No. 5) as the middle men. The Bills have enough draft capital to do it. This is what you do when your current depth chart consists of AJ McCarron and Nathan Peterman. 3. Jets (from the Colts): Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma. The Jets prefer Mayfield over the big-armed Allen because of his winning pedigree and rare accuracy. Mayfield (6-foot ⅝ inches) would be the shortest quarterback drafted by the Jets since Jeff Blake (6-foot ¼) in 1992. 4. Browns (from the Texans): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State: Dorsey will feel like Sonny Weaver, sans the frantic trading (and Jennifer Garner), as he walks away with two blue-chip players. 5. Giants (from the Bills, through the Broncos): Bradley Chubb, DE, North Carolina State. GM Dave Gettleman should take a quarterback, but he finds the combination of Chubb and extra draft picks from the Bills too tempting to pass up. 6. Colts (from the Jets): Quenton Nelson, G, Notre Dame. The Colts need help just about everywhere. Landing a potential "Gold Jacket" player is the way to go. 7. Buccaneers: Minkah Fitzpatrick, DB, Alabama: A marriage of need and value. 8. Cardinals (from the Bears): Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming. The Cards will stop Allen's fall, trading up from No. 15 to land their quarterback of the future. 9. 49ers: Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia. Reuben Foster's future is murky, so GM John Lynch grabs the most instinctive linebacker in the draft. 10. Raiders: Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State. Jon Gruden is smart enough to know his defense needs help. There you have it, our mini-mock 1.0. We'll give this another crack next Sunday. This is an exciting time for New York football, the first time since 1981 that both teams are picking in the top three. That year, the Giants chose Lawrence Taylor at No. 2; the Jets opted for Freeman McNeil at No. 3. 2. Welcome back: On Monday, the Jets open their offseason program, which is voluntary (wink, wink). A quick refresher: The program is divided into three phases. Phase I (two weeks) is limited to strength and conditioning. Phase II (three weeks) allows on-field drills but no offense versus defense. Phase III (four weeks) consists of 10 practices, sans live contact. It culminates with a mandatory minicamp. The big story will be recently signed quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, who is attempting to rebound from a devastating knee injury that cost him almost two full seasons with the Minnesota Vikings. The Jets will bring him along slowly; there's no need to rush anything at this point. Speaking to reporters in late March, Bridgewater wouldn't say if he expected to be ready to practice by the week of May 21. "We want him to be healthy and I expect him to throw this spring," coach Todd Bowles said at the recent NFL meetings. There's a difference between throwing and participating fully in practice, so we'll have to wait and see. Bridgewater has some money riding on the offseason -- a $500,000 workout bonus. Wide receiver Charles Johnson and linebacker Brandon Copeland, both of whom are coming off major injuries, have $250,000 and $100,000 bonuses, respectively. 3. The Maccagnan 16: General manager Mike Maccagnan promised to be active in free agency and he wasn't kidding. We're 33 days into free agency and the Jets have signed 16 new players -- 16! That, folks, is a rather astounding clip. It's classic Maccagnan: Patch as many holes as possible before the draft, reducing the temptation to reach for players at need positions. The one exception is at defensive end, where he has yet to find a suitable replacement for Muhammad Wilkerson. The major takeaway from the shopping spree is that only two additions (cornerback Trumaine Johnson and linebacker Avery Williamson) are locks to be on the team in 2019, based on their contract value and structure. Eleven of the 16 players signed one-year deals, and another three (running back Isaiah Crowell, center Spencer Longand linebacker Kevin Pierre-Louis) signed multiyear contracts that are really one-year deals with options. The upside to this approach is that it allows them to maintain financial flexibility in future years. Maccagnan doesn't want to be beholden to free agency, and that's a smart way to build the team as long as he drafts well. The downside is that it creates a mercenary feel, with so many players in one-and-done situations. Chances are, they'll have to do it again next year. Looking at the "bargain" signings, the players to watch are linebacker Kevin Minterand center Travis Swanson, both of whom were starters on their previous teams. If I'm Darron Lee, I'd be worried about Minter, who played under Bowles in Arizona (2013-2014) and knows the system. Swanson's addition creates a three-way competition between Long (a former left guard) and left guard James Carpenter, whose play slipped last season. 4. Cap update: Remember when the Jets were rolling in cap space? They opened free agency with $90 million at their disposal, but they're down to $19.5 million, according to NFLPA records. The draft will eat up about $8.5 million, which leaves them enough flexibility to address roster needs into the season. Todd Bowles, hired in 2015, is now the longest-tenured coach of the major pro teams in the New York market. Brad Penner/USA TODAY Sports 5. Dean of NY coaches: Bowles has been on the job for only three years, but that's enough to make him the longest-tenured coach/manager of the major professional sports teams in New York/New Jersey. Is that crazy or what? Bowles assumed the mantle, if you can call it that, when the New York Rangers fired Alain Vigneault last weekend. New York is a volatile place for sports teams, with owners exhibiting less patience than ever before. The Jets are the outlier. Once known for their dysfunction, they've created a stable environment. Now all they have to do is, you know, win. "The whole idea is to get winning results every year without giving them the same message," said Bowles, explaining his approach to the players. "That's the challenge every year." 6. Still fighting: Remember Devon Still? Sure you do. He spent some time with the Jets last summer and he's the father of Leah, who heroically battled a rare form of cancer in the national spotlight. Still and his wife, Asha, will participate in the Damon Runyon Cancer Research Foundation annual 5K on Sunday at Yankee Stadium. All proceeds go directly to support innovative cancer research. Still retired from the NFL last December, but he's still a voice in the cancer community. Bravo. 7. The last word: Former Jets quarterback Ken O'Brien lives in Manhattan Beach, California, Rosen's hometown: "I watched him in high school. He can spin it. He's one of the more natural guys throwing the ball. When the ball comes out of his hand, it jumps out of his hand. You hear the things out here recently, saying you have to put a lot on his plate to keep him busy. To me, that makes him sound like a really bright kid who can make decisions. Some of the things I've seen about him make it seem like he's not a team guy, but I haven't heard that out here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: Rich Cimini Oh man I would not wanna be Cimini right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Also if the Bills leapfrog us to take Rosen, I will quit my job so I can just spend the rest of my life laughing at this orphanage fire of a franchise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Also if the Bills leapfrog us to take Rosen, I will quit my job so I can just spend the rest of my life laughing at this orphanage fire of a franchiseWhy?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Quote This is an exciting time for New York football, the first time since 1981 that both teams are picking in the top three. That year, the Giants chose Lawrence Taylor at No. 2; the Jets opted for Freeman McNeil at No. 3. I'd sign up for the Jets and Giants having a 1st round like that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The TL;DR version is that we’re going to end up drafting Allen, Darron Lee isn’t getting extended, and Maccagnan uses free agency like Ted Bundy used college girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Just now, jetstream23 said: I'd sign up for the Jets and Giants having a 1st round like that again. I would too, just the reverse outcome this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 It would be unfortunate if Darnold and Rosen are both off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: It would be unfortunate if Darnold and Rosen are both off the board. Meh. I want Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Why? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Because I enjoy laughing more than I enjoy my job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 35 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Also if the Bills leapfrog us to take Rosen, I will quit my job so I can just spend the rest of my life laughing at this orphanage fire of a franchise If I were you, I’d just say f it, and do that no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 My reaction if we were to draft Mayfield over Allen. It just wouldn't make sense, I would 100% support them drafting Barkley if this is how they truly about felt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: My reaction if we were to draft Mayfield over Allen. It just wouldn't make sense, I would 100% support them drafting Barkley if this is how they truly about felt. So, just to be clear, when given the choice, it would not make sense to draft a good college QB over a bad college QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 The more I think about it the more I have a hard time believing a new GM would be willing to trade down any further from #2 than to #3 or #4. Gettleman is perched at #2 and it GUARANTEED to get either the first QB of the draft OR the best non-QB of the draft. If he goes to #5 there is a 0% chance of that. He could still find value as I think Chubb would be there along with someone like Allen or Rosen, but it's hard to sell your fanbase in your first year as GM that you passed on either QB1 or a BPA like Barkley. If I'm Gettleman and I want to squeeze a little more value of the #2 and still get my guy (assume Barkley) then I watch Darnold go #1 and then I call the Jets to see if they want to slide one spot higher (Gettleman knows it will be a QB). He then gets Barkley at #3 instead of #2 and probably grabs a mid-round pick from the Jets (who know exactly what Gettleman is doing and hopefully DO NOT offer anything like a #1 next year or even the #3 this year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: So, just to be clear, when given the choice, it would not make sense to draft a good college QB over a bad college QB? Whats understood doesn't have to be explain. We are looking for the best pro prospects who's talent will translate to the next level. That prospect is clearly Allen. Also there' isn't any day one better yet day to prospect who you can consider a "bad college QB.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Somebody has to show me how many picks now and next year the Bills would have to give up to "leapfrog" to #2. And they would have to convince me that the Broncos would be happy to make that trade and give up an elite player (probably a QB). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 i can certainly see the giants trading down especially if they aren't going qb. if rosen goes to the bills it will be pretty interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 31 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: Whats understood doesn't have to be explain. We are looking for the best pro prospects who's talent will translate to the next level. That prospect is clearly Allen. Also there' isn't any day one better yet day to prospect who you can consider a "bad college QB.' Yeah, but, you know, Allen's talent didn't translate to his current level... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Every pick is smart except the Jets pick I'm shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Its Cimini. I put about as much faith in his draft as I do Bowles starting a rookie QB. NONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: The more I think about it the more I have a hard time believing a new GM would be willing to trade down any further from #2 than to #3 or #4. Gettleman is perched at #2 and it GUARANTEED to get either the first QB of the draft OR the best non-QB of the draft. If he goes to #5 there is a 0% chance of that. He could still find value as I think Chubb would be there along with someone like Allen or Rosen, but it's hard to sell your fanbase in your first year as GM that you passed on either QB1 or a BPA like Barkley. If I'm Gettleman and I want to squeeze a little more value of the #2 and still get my guy (assume Barkley) then I watch Darnold go #1 and then I call the Jets to see if they want to slide one spot higher (Gettleman knows it will be a QB). He then gets Barkley at #3 instead of #2 and probably grabs a mid-round pick from the Jets (who know exactly what Gettleman is doing and hopefully DO NOT offer anything like a #1 next year or even the #3 this year). The only reason cimini concocted this was to piss off Jets fans so his headline includes Jets "settle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 44 minutes ago, TeddEY said: Yeah, but, you know, Allen's talent didn't translate to his current level... How not? He took his door mat Wyoming conference team to two straight bowl games and relevancy. So what transferring of talent are you talking about lol? We know your trying to throw shades but your doing it the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Long Island Leprechaun said: Somebody has to show me how many picks now and next year the Bills would have to give up to "leapfrog" to #2. And they would have to convince me that the Broncos would be happy to make that trade and give up an elite player (probably a QB). Exactly ! I live here cand there are SO many holes in the Bills line up IMHO they can't afford to give up that much draft ammo to move up to #5 then AGAIN give up more to move to #2. They have 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds. What are they gonna do trade it all for the #2 pick and not draft again till round #4. Seriously doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: My reaction if we were to draft Mayfield over Allen. It just wouldn't make sense, I would 100% support them drafting Barkley if this is how they truly about felt. We traded up for Johnny Manziel 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: Exactly ! I live here cand there are SO many holes in the Bills line up IMHO they can't afford to give up that much draft ammo to move up to #5 then AGAIN give up more to move to #2. They have 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds. What are they gonna do trade it all for the #2 pick and not draft again till round #4. Seriously doubt it. The current bills owner likes making flashy moves they are locked in on a qb at 2 with a trade up with the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, Larz said: The only reason cimini concocted this was to piss off Jets fans so his headline includes Jets "settle" We will have created negative content for Cimini and the rest of the anti-Jet media the next 10 years when we end up trading up for this bust Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: How not? He took his door mat Wyoming conference team to two straight bowl games and relevancy. So what transferring of talent are you talking about lol? We know your trying to throw shades but your doing it the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: My reaction if we were to draft Mayfield over Allen. It just wouldn't make sense, I would 100% support them drafting Barkley if this is how they truly about felt. You be in the minority here, I think. Allen is just too much bust potential. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: The TL;DR version is that we’re going to end up drafting Allen, Darron Lee isn’t getting extended, and Maccagnan uses free agency like Ted Bundy used college girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, jetstream23 said: The more I think about it the more I have a hard time believing a new GM would be willing to trade down any further from #2 than to #3 or #4. Gettleman is perched at #2 and it GUARANTEED to get either the first QB of the draft OR the best non-QB of the draft. If he goes to #5 there is a 0% chance of that. He could still find value as I think Chubb would be there along with someone like Allen or Rosen, but it's hard to sell your fanbase in your first year as GM that you passed on either QB1 or a BPA like Barkley. If I'm Gettleman and I want to squeeze a little more value of the #2 and still get my guy (assume Barkley) then I watch Darnold go #1 and then I call the Jets to see if they want to slide one spot higher (Gettleman knows it will be a QB). He then gets Barkley at #3 instead of #2 and probably grabs a mid-round pick from the Jets (who know exactly what Gettleman is doing and hopefully DO NOT offer anything like a #1 next year or even the #3 this year). Gettleman comes out just fine if someone trades the farm to get to 2 and he still can get Nelson. Or take both Buffalo's 1's plus Buffalo's higher 2nd round pick and get McGlinchey and/or Hernandez/Wynn. In the 2nd round take a RB and a WR. 2 goals accomlished: Set Eli up for success in his last couple of years for the Giants and have a strong team when you get your next QB. Take a gamble on Lauletta or one of the others in rounds 3 or 4 if your worried about Eli breaking down. Gettlemen is in catbird seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dcat said: You be in the minority here, I think. Allen is just too much bust potential. Sorry. And the midget running from the cops drunk playing in video game offense has no bust potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dcat said: Gettleman comes out just fine if someone trades the farm to get to 2 and he still can get Nelson. Or take both Buffalo's 1's plus Buffalo's higher 2nd round pick and get McGlinchey and/or Hernandez/Wynn. In the 2nd round take a RB and a WR. 2 goals accomlished: Set Eli up for success in his last couple of years for the Giants and have a strong team when you get your next QB. Take a gamble on Lauletta or one of the others in rounds 3 or 4 if your worried about Eli breaking down. Gettlemen is in catbird seat. Giants or going to end up with both Nelson and Rudolph They get all the breaks yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAD_Brooklyn Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, Dcat said: You be in the minority here, I think. Allen is just too much bust potential. Sorry. Never be afraid to stand with the minority when the minority is right, for the minority which is right will one day be the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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