Good chance draft goes Mayfield, Darnold.

[Lupz27]

So sifting through the information that the camp for Mayfield has put out, the fact the Browns specifically hired Scot McLoughlin to help with this draft, and his belief that Mayfield was head, and shoulders the best QB in this draft prior to being hired, and me choosing to believe the Giants truly have it Darnold, Chubb/Barkley, or Broncos willing to trade up from 5 for Darnold, and Darnold only.

Now IF you believe all the smoke that has been coming out about the Jets that it’s Darnold should he unexpectedly fall in their lap then Mayfield as their top 2, and they are more then happy with either then this is a worse case scenario for the brass inside Florham Park, now there has been very little talk about both Allen, and Rosen linked to the Jets for a long while now from them, or either QB’s camp thou both visited.

Now me personally it’s Darnold Rosen, or epic failure, but what I think doesn’t mean jack sh*t in what the Jets will actually do, or want to do, but it seems the Jets have it Darnold Mayfield, and might not have a guy they like 3rd, and might have been banking on Mayfield 100% available at 3.

Say all the Smoke, and info getting out the last few days is true, and the Rosen slipping down the board is true, and there is zero info about the Jets, and their feelings, or interest in him could the Jets be caught off guard with 10 minutes to hand in a card, and no real plan?  It’s happened to teams before, and the Jets are notorious for draft day blunders.

In this situation who do you think the Jets would take Allen, or Rosen?  Forget who you want them to take those discussions were for December through about 3,4 days ago, we are now 8 days away, and who me, you personally want is no longer the real discussion, it’s so close it’s now who will the Jets want, and take.

Rosen, or Allen?

Barkley?

Trade back with Denver?  This could be an epic mistake with Denver taking Allen, and then the Browns trading out with the Bills who take Rosen which would be so Jets lol, and would be a possible blessing forcing the Jets to take Jackson maybe out of desperation lol.

8 more days, we all know the NFL wants as much drama as possible come next Thursday, I’d be shocked if they didn’t get it.

[Augustiniak]

The media has declared the jets love mayfield. Have to believe mccagnan loves Rosen. 

[MDL_JET]

Between Allen or Rosen, I think Mac goes Rosen. And it's not even close. He already f'd up with Hack, I can't see him hanging his job onto a big project like Allen. Regardless of the upside. That would take some big balls to draft Allen ahead of Rosen and sell it to the fan base and a lot of pressure on the coaching staff/first year OC to make something out of your top 3 pick quickly as possible. Makes zero sense to pass on Rosen in that situation.

[mrcoops]

Mayfield and Darnold going 1&2 is pretty much my worst nightmare, as I want one of those two guys - preferably Mayfield.

So, the Jets luck being as it is, that is probably precisely what will happen.

I'm not as high on Rosen as many others, though I do get the appeal.  Not interested in Allen that high at all.

[JiFtheOracle]

If I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has the QB's rated in this draft, my bet would be:

Allen > Darnold > Rosen > Mayfield > Rudolph - everything about Mac's QB profile screams this order.

Now, if I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has his overall Big Board, my bet would be:

Barkley > Allen > Darnold > Chubb > Rosen > Nelson 

So in your scenario, the Jets are taking Allen.  Think about it.  Similar make up of every QB he's ever been interested in, they've already told McCown he's the starter, that way they can just slowly bring Allen along (a plan, ala Hack, if you will).  They also have Teddy as insurance.  If you're taking Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold - you're looking to start them day 1.  

It's going to be Allen if he's there and I'm going to set Florham Park on fire. 

[Lupz27]

Just now, Augustiniak said:

The media has declared the jets love mayfield. Have to believe mccagnan loves Rosen. 

See the thing is the media hasn’t really declared the Jets love Mayfield, A guy who may be a media guy is running with the Mayfield team on these visits if I’m not mistaken as part of the documentary crew, and leaked out the info that Mayfield will not get past Jets at 3 the second his official visit with the Jets was over, and they walked out of Florham Park, and the other media has taken it as gospel because of how close the source is to Mayfield himself, and TBH it would be silly not to run with that kind of inside info.  What baffles me thou is nobody in the main stream media talks Mayfield to the Browns as a serious pick #1 overall considering the whole Scot McLoughlin hiring.  I also believe the Mayfield team truly believes the Browns are thinking BPA #1, come back grab Mayfield #4, and wanted to let the Browns know true, or not that he won’t be there at #4 to get their guy picked #1 in the draft, that’s a huge notch in his agents belt, and a huge boost to the ego maniac Mayfield who basically can take him going #1 overall as a big FU to all his doubters, and haters.

[Stark]

19 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

So sifting through the information that the camp for Mayfield has put out, the fact the Browns specifically hired Scot McLoughlin to help with this draft, and his belief that Mayfield was head, and shoulders the best QB in this draft prior to being hired, and me choosing to believe the Giants truly have it Darnold, Chubb/Barkley, or Broncos willing to trade up from 5 for Darnold, and Darnold only.

Now IF you believe all the smoke that has been coming out about the Jets that it’s Darnold should he unexpectedly fall in their lap then Mayfield as their top 2, and they are more then happy with either then this is a worse case scenario for the brass inside Florham Park, now there has been very little talk about both Allen, and Rosen linked to the Jets for a long while now from them, or either QB’s camp thou both visited.

Now me personally it’s Darnold Rosen, or epic failure, but what I think doesn’t mean jack sh*t in what the Jets will actually do, or want to do, but it seems the Jets have it Darnold Mayfield, and might not have a guy they like 3rd, and might have been banking on Mayfield 100% available at 3.

Say all the Smoke, and info getting out the last few days is true, and the Rosen slipping down the board is true, and there is zero info about the Jets, and their feelings, or interest in him could the Jets be caught off guard with 10 minutes to hand in a card, and no real plan?  It’s happened to teams before, and the Jets are notorious for draft day blunders.

In this situation who do you think the Jets would take Allen, or Rosen?  Forget who you want them to take those discussions were for December through about 3,4 days ago, we are now 8 days away, and who me, you personally want is no longer the real discussion, it’s so close it’s now who will the Jets want, and take.

Rosen, or Allen?

Barkley?

Trade back with Denver?  This could be an epic mistake with Denver taking Allen, and then the Browns trading out with the Bills who take Rosen which would be so Jets lol, and would be a possible blessing forcing the Jets to take Jackson maybe out of desperation lol.

8 more days, we all know the NFL wants as much drama as possible come next Thursday, I’d be shocked if they didn’t get it.

Top 2 are Rosen / Darnold - Darnold / Rosen, however you want to argue it... Rosen to me is as ready as it gets right now, Darnold potentially has a higher upside to me. and for me I would take Rosen but I am happy if Darnold is the pick too....

I like Mayfield a lot, but the only way I take him is if Rosen and Darnold are gone. I don't touch Allen, boy he has a great physical set of tools but too many questions for me from his in game decisions and seemingly "deer in headlights looks at times" those are only going to have the potential to get more common with NFL defenses (Allen could surprise me and end up being a good QB, I just have a hard time seeing it).

Smoke comment: I do kind of think the fact that there are literally ZERO reports or projections of us being in on Rosen means that is who we are really interested in the most. Sure we may like Mayfield but prefer Rosen, but it is very possible that is why the Rosen front is so quiet. Also if this guy falls down the board I have a very strong feeling we are going to be saying the same thing during the season that we were saying last year.... Why the Effff did we not select Rosen (similar to the Mahomes & Deshaun Watson situation).

 

All that being said I am hoping to somehow get Rosen or Darnold... I would be okay with Mayfield .... I will be unhappy with Allen (we haven't developed any player at any position since Bowles has been here). 

BUT I WILL SUPPORT THE HELL OUT OF WHICHEVER ONE WE TAKE and HOPE FOR THE BEST - Even if its Josh Allen ( I will probably be in an alcoholic haze for a few days cursing the pick though). 

[Stark]

10 minutes ago, JiF said:

If I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has the QB's rated in this draft, my bet would be:

Allen > Darnold > Rosen > Mayfield > Rudolph - everything about Mac's QB profile screams this order.

Now, if I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has his overall Big Board, my bet would be:

Barkley > Allen > Darnold > Chubb > Rosen > Nelson 

So in your scenario, the Jets are taking Allen.  Think about it.  Similar make up of every QB he's ever been interested in, they've already told McCown he's the starter, that way they can just slowly bring Allen along (a plan, ala Hack, if you will).  They also have Teddy as insurance.  If you're taking Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold - you're looking to start them day 1.  

It's going to be Allen if he's there and I'm going to set Florham Park on fire. 

I just can't see how anyone has Allen as the #1 qb, it is all potential and I'd rather you draft a QB that hight that could start from day 1, maybe you wait a few games but not a guy that you are hearing may need a year or 2 on the bench. TO me that is not a #1 pick. 

 

Not a knock on you or you comment @JiF, I am just ranting.

[JoJoTownsell1]

There is also a good chance the draft goes Allen then Barkley.

There is also a good chance the draft goes Darnold then Barkley.

There is also a good chance the draft goes Allen then Darnold etc..

Macc traded up to 3 because he was obviously convinced that at least 3, if not all 4, QBs are worth the chance at 3. So if we assume Macc loves Mayfiled/Darnold/Rosen then if the draft goes Mayfield/Darnold, what do you think he will do? 

 

[JoJoTownsell1]

3 minutes ago, Stark said:

I just can't see how anyone has Allen as the #1 qb, it is all potential and I'd rather you draft a QB that hight that could start from day 1, maybe you wait a few games but not a guy that you are hearing may need a year or 2 on the bench. TO me that is not a #1 pick. 

 

Not a knock on you or you comment @JiF, I am just ranting.

Because he is the most talented and the others have question marks also. This isn't like taking Allen over Luck. This is a very talented group of Qbs that all have great qualities but they all have some drawbacks. I get that many here have Hackaphobia and want nothing to do with a kid with great potential and some accuracy issues, but what will you do if we pass on Allen and he ends up on the Bills and wins a couple of super bowls? Will you be happy because we took Rosen who was ready day 1, while the Bills had to wait a 10-16 games to start Allen?

[Fantasy Island]

28 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

The media has declared the jets love mayfield. Have to believe mccagnan loves Rosen. 

MacCagnan loves Jack Squat because that is who he picks most often.

[Lupz27]

8 minutes ago, MDL_JET said:

Between Allen or Rosen, I think Mac goes Rosen. And it's not even close. He already f'd up with Hack, I can't see him hanging his job onto a big project like Allen. Regardless of the upside. That would take some big balls to draft Allen ahead of Rosen and sell it to the fan base and a lot of pressure on the coaching staff/first year OC to make something out of your top 3 pick quickly as possible. Makes zero sense to pass on Rosen in that situation.

I hope your right.  I have zero faith in Macc when it comes to QB’s, I really hope Bates has a major say, and Bowles has zero say.  Still think this pick is going to be made by the Johnsons, and IF they fall in love with Darnold today during his visit (Chris Johnson), AND the Browns truly have not decided, or truly want Mayfield, and know they can get him at 3 so they would be open to moving, I could see the owner making an executive decision to make the trade, and if they did I could possibly see it being something like #3, Jets 3rd rounder (Browns don’t have a 3rd round pick, and 2019 1st rounder for #1, #35, and a 2nd next year.  A 3rd round pick in this years draft is equivalent to a 2nd round pick next year.  The 2019 1st is to much to go from 3rd to 1st with more then 1, or 2 top QB’s available, Jets get a 2nd rounder back this year, and a 2nd rounder back next year, so the real trade for them to go from 6th to 1st becomes 2 1st’s, a 2nd, and a 3rd, so they lose their 1st next year, but for that they get their top choice at QB, retain a top of the 2nd round pick in this years draft, and get back a 2nd rounder in next years draft.

Why it makes sense for the Browns, Browns still get their QB Mayfield, still get the 1st, or 2nd top non QB prospect this season, and have 2 1st round picks again next year.

[JiFtheOracle]

11 minutes ago, Stark said:

I just can't see how anyone has Allen as the #1 qb, it is all potential and I'd rather you draft a QB that hight that could start from day 1, maybe you wait a few games but not a guy that you are hearing may need a year or 2 on the bench. TO me that is not a #1 pick. 

 

Not a knock on you or you comment @JiF, I am just ranting.

Im predicting what Mac will do.  This is not my choice.  I'm with you here. I'd stay far away from him but I think Mac being a former scout, probably drools and touches himself at the idea of the things Allen can do, you cant teach.

 

[nycdan]

41 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

So sifting through the information that the camp for Mayfield has put out, the fact the Browns specifically hired Scot McLoughlin to help with this draft, and his belief that Mayfield was head, and shoulders the best QB in this draft prior to being hired, and me choosing to believe the Giants truly have it Darnold, Chubb/Barkley, or Broncos willing to trade up from 5 for Darnold, and Darnold only.

Now IF you believe all the smoke that has been coming out about the Jets that it’s Darnold should he unexpectedly fall in their lap then Mayfield as their top 2, and they are more then happy with either then this is a worse case scenario for the brass inside Florham Park, now there has been very little talk about both Allen, and Rosen linked to the Jets for a long while now from them, or either QB’s camp thou both visited.

Now me personally it’s Darnold Rosen, or epic failure, but what I think doesn’t mean jack sh*t in what the Jets will actually do, or want to do, but it seems the Jets have it Darnold Mayfield, and might not have a guy they like 3rd, and might have been banking on Mayfield 100% available at 3.

Say all the Smoke, and info getting out the last few days is true, and the Rosen slipping down the board is true, and there is zero info about the Jets, and their feelings, or interest in him could the Jets be caught off guard with 10 minutes to hand in a card, and no real plan?  It’s happened to teams before, and the Jets are notorious for draft day blunders.

In this situation who do you think the Jets would take Allen, or Rosen?  Forget who you want them to take those discussions were for December through about 3,4 days ago, we are now 8 days away, and who me, you personally want is no longer the real discussion, it’s so close it’s now who will the Jets want, and take.

Rosen, or Allen?

Barkley?

Trade back with Denver?  This could be an epic mistake with Denver taking Allen, and then the Browns trading out with the Bills who take Rosen which would be so Jets lol, and would be a possible blessing forcing the Jets to take Jackson maybe out of desperation lol.

8 more days, we all know the NFL wants as much drama as possible come next Thursday, I’d be shocked if they didn’t get it.

 

If Denver wants Allen, they would be able to just trade up to 4 to get him and block BUF from getting ahead of them.  On the other hand, if they are nervous about NYJ taking Allen instead of Rosen, it opens up the possibility of inserting ourselves into the mix with a 3-way trade.  DEN to 3, NYJ to 4, CLE to 5.  Figure it nets us a 2nd round pick or equivalent value with about the same value going to CLE.  Wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to get one of them back and get Rosen.

[GreenFish]

What makes you think Darnold is at the top of the Jets draft board? He is like the one guy the Jets have not been linked to. We've been linked to Allen, Rosen, and Mayfield. 

The owner of the Browns met with Darnold and Allen. I don't believe he has met with Rosen and Mayfield. All signs point to those two QB's being 1 and 2 on the Browns board. 

[Lupz27]

2 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

What makes you think Darnold is at the top of the Jets draft board? He is like the one guy the Jets have not been linked to. We've been linked to Allen, Rosen, and Mayfield. 

The owner of the Browns met with Darnold and Allen. I don't believe he has met with Rosen and Mayfield. All signs point to those two QB's being 1 and 2 on the Browns board. 

You read the wrong signs.

[peebag]

42 minutes ago, JiF said:

If I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has the QB's rated in this draft, my bet would be:

Allen > Darnold > Rosen > Mayfield > Rudolph - everything about Mac's QB profile screams this order.

Now, if I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has his overall Big Board, my bet would be:

Barkley > Allen > Darnold > Chubb > Rosen > Nelson 

So in your scenario, the Jets are taking Allen.  Think about it.  Similar make up of every QB he's ever been interested in, they've already told McCown he's the starter, that way they can just slowly bring Allen along (a plan, ala Hack, if you will).  They also have Teddy as insurance.  If you're taking Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold - you're looking to start them day 1.  

It's going to be Allen if he's there and I'm going to set Florham Park on fire. 

I will pitch in for petrol.

[Stark]

21 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

What makes you think Darnold is at the top of the Jets draft board? He is like the one guy the Jets have not been linked to. We've been linked to Allen, Rosen, and Mayfield. 

The owner of the Browns met with Darnold and Allen. I don't believe he has met with Rosen and Mayfield. All signs point to those two QB's being 1 and 2 on the Browns board. 

 

18 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

You read the wrong signs.

Darnold is at the JETS facility today meeting with Mac and Co. @Lupz27 is correct here. 

[JiFtheOracle]

23 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

What makes you think Darnold is at the top of the Jets draft board? He is like the one guy the Jets have not been linked to. We've been linked to Allen, Rosen, and Mayfield. 

The owner of the Browns met with Darnold and Allen. I don't believe he has met with Rosen and Mayfield. All signs point to those two QB's being 1 and 2 on the Browns board. 

Mac is on record saying he's done the most work on Darnold. 

[Warfish]

Cool story.

Guess we'll find out on Draft day.

[Untouchable]

48 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Because he is the most talented and the others have question marks also. This isn't like taking Allen over Luck. This is a very talented group of Qbs that all have great qualities but they all have some drawbacks. I get that many here have Hackaphobia and want nothing to do with a kid with great potential and some accuracy issues, but what will you do if we pass on Allen and he ends up on the Bills and wins a couple of super bowls? Will you be happy because we took Rosen who was ready day 1, while the Bills had to wait a 10-16 games to start Allen?

Pretty much 

I’m actually floored by how many posters want Allen to end up with the Bills.

F*ck that

I hope he goes #1 to Cleveland so we can completely avoid deciding whether or not to take him or him potentially ending up in Buffalo.

Does Allen have a high bust factor? Sure, but if you hit on that kid, you’re probably staring at Big Ben 2.0 for the next 15 years.

I don’t know why the hell so many Jets fans want to see that in a non-green & white uniform in the AFC East for the better part of the next 2 decades.

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

If I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has the QB's rated in this draft, my bet would be:

Allen > Darnold > Rosen > Mayfield > Rudolph - everything about Mac's QB profile screams this order.

Now, if I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has his overall Big Board, my bet would be:

Barkley > Allen > Darnold > Chubb > Rosen > Nelson 

So in your scenario, the Jets are taking Allen.  Think about it.  Similar make up of every QB he's ever been interested in, they've already told McCown he's the starter, that way they can just slowly bring Allen along (a plan, ala Hack, if you will).  They also have Teddy as insurance.  If you're taking Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold - you're looking to start them day 1.  

It's going to be Allen if he's there and I'm going to set Florham Park on fire. 

This makes me very sad, mainly because it’s true

[dbatesman]

1 minute ago, Untouchable said:

Pretty much 

I’m actually floored by how many posters want Allen to end up with the Bills.

F*ck that

I hope he goes #1 to Cleveland so we can completely avoid deciding whether or not to take him or him potentially ending up in Buffalo.

Does Allen have a high bust factor? Sure, but if you hit on that kid, you’re probably staring at Big Ben 2.0 for the next 15 years.

I don’t know why the hell so many Jets fans want to see that in a non-green & white uniform in the AFC East for the better part of the next 2 decades.

What if the Bills trade up for Quenton Nelson, convert him to QB, and he turns into Big Ben 2.0 for the next 15 years?

[HawkeyeJet]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

If I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has the QB's rated in this draft, my bet would be:

Allen > Darnold > Rosen > Mayfield > Rudolph - everything about Mac's QB profile screams this order.

Now, if I were a betting man and I had to take a guess at how Big Mac has his overall Big Board, my bet would be:

Barkley > Allen > Darnold > Chubb > Rosen > Nelson 

So in your scenario, the Jets are taking Allen.  Think about it.  Similar make up of every QB he's ever been interested in, they've already told McCown he's the starter, that way they can just slowly bring Allen along (a plan, ala Hack, if you will).  They also have Teddy as insurance.  If you're taking Mayfield, Rosen or Darnold - you're looking to start them day 1.  

It's going to be Allen if he's there and I'm going to set Florham Park on fire. 

I don't get this statement that Allen is Macc's prototype QB mold based on past indicators.  He has similar strong arm/accuracy questions like Hack, but how is he similar to Petty? Or McCown?  Or Fitzpatrick?  Or Bridgewater?  

In my opinion, if there is any trend in the QBs Macc has added to the roster it is that there is no distinct pattern. 

[RSJ]

Like someone already stated - all the smoke has come from the Mayfield camp. My feeling is that like previous drafts the Jets have their rankings and will take whoever falls to three. I am just basing this on the fact that the last three drafts were guys not linked to the team. Also the picks have been safe picks. I think Rosen may be the safest pick of them all. Jmho

 

 

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[Untouchable]

6 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I don't get this statement that Allen is Macc's prototype QB mold based on past indicators.  He has similar strong arm/accuracy questions like Hack, but how is he similar to Petty? Or McKnown?  Or Fitzpatrick?  Or Bridgewater?  

In my opinion, if there is any trend in the QBs Macc has added to the roster it is that there is no distinct pattern. 

There hasn’t been a pattern established.

About the only thing you could say for Macc’s penchant for QB’s so far is that he prefers more of a traditional pocket passer (Hack, Petty, Fitz, McCown, Teddy) over a guy who is an “athlete” first and foremost (Vick, Kaepernick, Tyrod, etc).

So strike Lamar Jackson off the list, I guess...

Otherwise he could take any of Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield or Allen.

At the end of the day, I think Allen and Darnold go in the Top 2 and the Jets are left with the Rosen vs Mayfield debate.

[JiFtheOracle]

8 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

I don't get this statement that Allen is Macc's prototype QB mold based on past indicators.  He has similar strong arm/accuracy questions like Hack, but how is he similar to Petty? Or McKnown?  Or Fitzpatrick?  Or Bridgewater?  

In my opinion, if there is any trend in the QBs Macc has added to the roster it is that there is no distinct pattern. 

From purely a draft perspective...he's similar to Hack and Petty in that he's the tall, strong armed, prototype pocket passer.  McCown is basically an older version of the 3 if you include Allen.

Fitz and Bridgewater are of that mold but they're both game manager type insurance policy players.  I dont think either were/are intended to actually play. 

[Beerfish]

As long as one of the two in front do not go darnold/rosen I'll be happy. 

[kelly]

Just now, Beerfish said:

As long as one of the two in front do not go darnold/rosen I'll be happy. 

sam & rosen r going 1 - 2.. we're gonna get barkley     

 

 

 

p.s. just an fyi - McShay : How Saquon Barkley grades vs. elite running backs       http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/22859256 

[Jojo's jets]

I would be happy with everyone, except Josh Allen at the # 3 spot. We don't need another two year project at # 3.

[HawkeyeJet]

8 minutes ago, JiF said:

From purely a draft perspective...he's similar to Hack and Petty in that he's the tall, strong armed, prototype pocket passer.  McCown is basically an older version of the 3 if you include Allen.

Fitz and Bridgewater are of that mold but they're both game manager type insurance policy players.  I dont think either were/are intended to actually play. 

Petty and McCown have strong arms?  They fooled me! They both have average NFL arms.  Petty a bit better than average.

McCown and Petty are not your prototypical statues in the pocket either. Both have fairly decent wiggle for their size.

 

 

[Beerfish]

6 minutes ago, kelly said:

sam & rosen r going 1 - 2.. we're gonna get barkley     

 

 

 

p.s. just an fyi - McShay : How Saquon Barkley grades vs. elite running backs       http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/22859256 

No chance we traded 3 2nd rounders for a back.

[JiFtheOracle]

5 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

Petty and McCown have strong arms?  They fooled me! They both have average NFL arms.  

 

 

I would label both as above average arm strength to strong armed QB's.

quick, someone check MPH!!!

[kelly]

Just now, Beerfish said:

No chance we traded 3 2nd rounders for a back.

we'll see  

 

 

 

 

cheers ~ ~ 

[The Crusher]

1 hour ago, Augustiniak said:

The media has declared the jets love mayfield. Have to believe mccagnan loves Rosen. 

From everything we haves heard I think you are right. Macc May suck but he is pretty good at keeping a secret . Problem is.. those secrets typically suck . Time for a new trend?