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40 minutes ago, The Crusher said:

I can't think of anything but Derek Zoolander. when I look at that cover.

Here's that interview.  I forgot it spawned the Suns Out, Guns Out meme we were using for a long time.  1:27

**** sake - you could totally see Mayfield in his place in this video.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Stark said:

lol, this linebacker... well good job allowing 48 points to be scored against you. I thought it was ignorant AF for him to be yelling humble yourself. Davin Bellamy, the LB had a whole 2 tackles in that game... DOn't run your mouth when you didn't do jack in a game that you allowed 48 points,

Mayfield played pretty sh*tty, didn't he?  I thought his QBR was sub-50?  Wasn't that game all Anderson?

15 minutes ago, King P said:

Too many topless men pics for my liking

*exits thread*

Does not belong on JN.

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Just now, #27TheDominator said:

Mayfield played pretty sh*tty, didn't he?  I thought his QBR was sub-50?  Wasn't that game all Anderson?

Does not belong on JN.

the second half he didn't play as well, but the Georgia defense played a lot better in 2nd half. I guess my point is if a guy that made an impact on Defense was saying it, it would be 1 thing. but dude, you had 2 tackles know your place.... also don't allow 48 points and win in OT and say humble yourself like you held mayfield to a josh allen vs Iowa stat line.

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1 hour ago, MDL_JET said:

“I didn’t look at their playbook as much as a I should have,” Mayfield said. “It could have gone a little bit better . . . but at the same time, I’m prioritizing which playbooks I’m going to learn. No offense to them, but I’ve got a lot on my plate.”

HUGE Red Flag, what if the Chargers were gonna try, and trade up to get you?  You can’t assume anything, you have to take every interview as if it’s the team that plans on drafting you.  This kids need to be wanted, and infatuation with assuming everyone who doesn’t anoint him god grows that chip on his shoulder that really shouldn’t be there, you won the Heisman, your getting the red carpet treatment to be a top 5 pick, have a guy traveling with you so he could do a SI cover story on your road leading up to the draft as if you are the best player in this draft what more do you want in terms of attention?  I get wanting to win, and hating to lose, love that attribute with any person not just professional athletes, but this kids NEED for attention, and the need to be acknowledged for every single thing he has ever done, or he is gonna pout about it is so over the top ridiculous, and when playing in the NFL where every single player in the league is just as good as the one, or 2 guys that were good on college teams, and he has the normal rookie QB struggles that all QB’s go through, and then the critics will pounce I can see him totally going off the deep end, and going out on every play trying to prove them wrong by trying to throw 4 TD’s with one pass, in college it was easy to prove everyone wrong between the talent on his team, and playing vs College defenses even the best ones he faced have 5-6 guys starting that won’t cut it in the NFL, it won’t be easy in the NFL it will take time, it will be a process, and he will face adversity the likes he has never seen before, and every time he has faced adversity which is emotional in nature not physical in nature he has responded extremely poorly.  Landing in a bad situation could literally send him into a tailspin the likes of Leaf if he can’t keep those emotions in check during emotional adversity, NY is not a great place for a guy like him to go through growing pains with the way the media, and fans will get on him, Cleveland is probably his best place to go, they have a sh*t ton of young talent he can grow with, ton of skilled players to get the ball to, and nobody will get all over him during the initial struggles he will go through.

This kid is more polarizing then Manziel ever was, he isn’t a party guy, he loves football, and is willing to work his ass off, wants everyone to know how great he is before he is great, won’t fail because he didn’t give it 130%, but if he does fail it’s gonna be a show of epic proportions.

This kid has also done the best job of marketing himself to the NFL teams to draft him since Keyshawn Johnson.

Can he survive the bad, and if he lands with a bad team that is really bad regardless of his talent can he survive that early in his career, to me just looking at the pieces to the puzzle, and putting them together the answer is no, and always has been.

I will say this thou, this lead up to this draft has made my ******* head spin, it’s got me questioning everything I believe in as far as QB prospects go, Darnold is a 20 year old kid who has everything you need in a franchise QB in the NFL, and is humble AF, but is as competitive in that cut throat way that Mayfield is, but doesn’t need to scream look at me I’m the baddest dude on the planet for being so damn competitive, Darnold is the quiet assassin where winning is enough to satisfy that need, he doesn’t need 75 guys to line up to lick his balls, and tell him how good he is, but yet I’m now questioning maybe he is a bust, maybe everyone else is right Mayfield does walk on water, maybe Rosen will tell everyone to **** off your all stupider then me, and don’t know sh*t, and it won’t matter thou because he will be injured more then Sam Bradford (nothing has me confused with Allen dude is a deer in the headlights under pressure Browning Nagle 2.0 will never over come his issues of not being able to produce under pressure consistently).  8 days, ugh pleas come soon.

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1 hour ago, MDL_JET said:

Here's the article...https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/18/baker-mayfield-2018-nfl-draft-quarterbacks?utm_campaign=themmqb&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

Teammates and friends talk about the legend of Baker Mayfield as though he were forged from some alien metal and dropped to earth—a shining example for the little guy. To almost everyone who met him at Oklahoma, he’s Baker Mayfield, walk-on turned Heisman Trophy winner, a six-foot powder keg who slings it like Favre, trash-talks like Shaq, dances like Bruno . . . and might actually hail from Mars.

But they didn’t know him way back when—not back in Gina and James Mayfield’s kitchen in the suburbs of Austin, where 17-year-old Baker got up the nerve to tell his father that for college he intended to choose between Florida Atlantic and Washington State, the two so-so FBS football programs he’d gotten offers from. Those were the two schools that really liked him, and Mayfield longed to be desired, to have a chance to play.

“I didn’t get the offers I wanted,” he recalls, “and in my head I’m thinking: I deserve to not have to walk on.”

James, though, wasn’t having it; he told Baker he could do better. “You’ve always believed in yourself,” James said, “so why don’t you walk on somewhere you want to go?” The conversation transformed into a shouting match; the teenager stormed out of the house and paced through the neighborhood. Two hours later he came back home and decided he’d indeed try to walk on, at Texas Tech.

“I was so frustrated. I almost took the easiest way out, and [my dad] kicked me in the rear. We had the biggest fight we’ve ever had,” Baker says. “He pushed me to chase my dream. I wouldn’t be here right now if he hadn’t done that.”

Fourteen thousand, six hundred and seven passing yards later, Mayfield found himself at a Mexican restaurant in Hollywood, the Red O, huddling with an agent who was recommended by a handful of Sooners greats. Jack Mills handed him a sheet of paper detailing the compensation for each pick in the first round of last year’s draft. This was January, and most of the experts were pegging Mayfield as a mid-first-round selection. ESPN analyst Todd McShay, for one, had Mayfield at No. 19, to the Chargers. (Ultimately L.A. would end up with the 17th pick.) Mayfield took the paper and in ink drew a line underneath the No. 5 selection, held by the Broncos. “I’m not going later than this,” he said.

In just five years Baker Mayfield has gone from a teenager who was ready to compromise on his dreams and become a Florida Atlantic Owl . . . to a 23-year-old football idol who firmly believes in his ability to willextraordinary things into happening. Along the way his eyes got big. Some will surely say his head did too.

At his pro day in Norman last month, Mayfield wore a crimson-and-cream Nike headband and a small medallion bearing a depiction of St. Christopher, known as the patron saint of athletes. The headband made the rounds on social media and drew giggling comparisons to Karate Kidprotagonist Daniel LaRusso. One day before the workout, the Chargers—the team that McShay imagined drafting Mayfield in the second half of the first round—had asked him to go to lunch with a handful of staffers, including offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt. (The presence of all those Chargers employees was all the more flattering considering the timing: Free agency had just begun, and that’s typically an all-hands-on-deck day in NFL offices.) Before their lunch, the Chargers had given Mayfield a handful of plays to study and then dissect—an exercise he had excelled at with other teams.

Asked afterward, though, how he felt he’d performed in the Chargers meeting, Mayfield flashed a shade of vanity more often associated with LaRusso’s Karate Kid rival: cheap-shotting bad boy Johnny Lawrence. “I didn’t look at their playbook as much as a I should have,” Mayfield said. “It could have gone a little bit better . . . but at the same time, I’m prioritizing which playbooks I’m going to learn. No offense to them, but I’ve got a lot on my plate.”

It’s not so strange, during a week packed with interviews, that a draft prospect who’s likely to be selected in the top five—just as he promised—might prioritize a team with a high pick over one with a low pick. What isodd is that he would admit it. Out loud. With a recorder in front of him.

 

In the Manual of Modern Quarterbacking, authored by Tom Brady (foreword by Peyton Manning), telling it like it is would be just about as taboo as snoozing through a film session. Those close to Mayfield chalk up this brutal honesty to Baker being Baker, though there are key factors of his personal history to consider. For one, there was never a starter over Mayfield for him to look up to in college; he never watched a senior QB squirm under the media spotlight and deliver those boilerplate answers. Drew Brees watched and learned from Billy Dicken at Purdue; Ben Roethlisberger spent a redshirt year at Miami (Ohio) observing a guy named Mike Bath; at N.C. State, Russell Wilson redshirted while Daniel Evans started. But Mayfield took the reins at Tech immediately. (And how’s this for a start? He completed six of his first seven collegiate passes and threw four TDs in that win, the first of five straight before an injury.) After that he took Trevor Knight’s job at Oklahoma and led the Sooners for three seasons. In other words, it’s been The Baker Mayfield Show for some time now. He did it his way because it was the only way he knew.

That’s not to say he doesn’t listen. His camp—Mills and his partner-son, Tom; marketing agents Patrick Hayes and Lindsey Waterhouse; James, Gina and Baker’s older brother, Matt—has been successful in convincing Mayfield to stop antagonizing media members and Texas football commits on Twitter. (He still browses social media, still uses screenshots of offending tweets as motivation—it’s all fodder for the cameras on an upcoming Behind Baker documentary series.) And at the Senior Bowl in January, Mayfield finally met a QB he could look up to: former Jets and Dolphins starter Chad Pennington, who mentored prospects in Mobile and at the combine in Indianapolis, earning Mayfield’s respect through impartiality and sage advice. “We started talking about how he presents himself in the best light to make sure organizations really understand who he is,” Pennington says. “He’s secure with who he is. And I think, as evaluators, you have to be very careful about judging that as ‘not caring enough’ or ‘not being perceptive enough.’ ”

Here’s a relevant bit of Pennington’s advice to Mayfield and others of his ilk: Don’t blow off any team, regardless of its draft position. “Just because this team’s not going to be able to draft you, it doesn’t matter,” he says, “because you may be on this team four years from now. There are only 32, and they all matter.” (Mayfield’s meeting with the Chargers may be an indication that he’s not absorbing everything Pennington tells him.)

The day Pennington introduced himself to Mayfield’s North team at the Senior Bowl, the onetime NFL QB recited his cellphone number aloud, offering himself as a sounding board for any and all takers. Mayfield was interested but didn’t write down the digits. He didn’t have to. Two days later he recited them from memory, and the number checked out. “My dad thinks I have a photographic memory,” he says. “I’ve just always been able to remember that kind of thing.”

Uniquely gifted, brazenly self-confident, motivated by perceived slights—all of this reminds one former NFL quarterback of his own personal downfall. Ryan Leaf, the No. 2 pick in 1998 by the Chargers (and an undeniable bust, having finished his pro career with 14 touchdowns and 36 interceptions), went on the Ballers with Babies podcast in March and aired his concerns about Mayfield. “The biggest thing for me will be how he deals with failure,” Leaf said. “That’s where my downfall was, when things began to fall apart. . . . When the media is on you, you play a bad game, your whole city is on you, that’s where we’ll see where Baker Mayfield is at. Right now there’s no evidence to back up that, when things get tough, he won’t break.”

Go back to 1998. Scott Goldman and Jim Bowman had just finished up their sports psychology degrees, and they were searching for a niche in an expanding field when they learned that the Wonderlic test, originally developed in the 1930s as a tool to evaluate entry-level applicants at a consumer-loan provider, was the only intelligence test being administered to prospects at the NFL combine. Not only is the Wonderlic based off a now-80-year-old theory, says Goldman, but “it’s language-dependent, and it has socioeconomic and cultural biases. So we spent years looking at all the forms of intelligence and cognitive abilities that impact unsolvable puzzles.”

 

In 1998, Leaf, who would fizzle out after just four seasons in the league, scored a 27 out of 50. That same year Manning, the NFL’s career leader in passing yardage, scored a 28. Leaf, by his own admission, struggled with the mental aspect of the game early in his career, and the subsequent criticism crippled him with self-doubt. As Goldman and Bowman watched Leaf’s career implode, they worked in the background on a test that might better predict a young player’s football aptitude. They sought to eliminate cultural and language biases and evaluate a handful of intelligence traits that translated directly to athletics, like the brain’s processing speed and its ability to recall information or adapt to shifting circumstances. They called their new test the AIQ (Athletic Intelligence Quotient), and they found a positive correlation between players with high scores and those who made early, meaningful contributions on the athletic field.

The AIQ has since been administered to more than 4,000 athletes across the major American sports leagues, including the NFL, which first adopted the test at the 2012 combine for a limited number of players and now tests everyone in Indy. Today two teams subscribe fully to the testing service (while a handful of others buy reports on certain players). One of those two teams already has its franchise quarterback. The other team is not a perennial winner; its pick is in the top half of the first round this year. It’s also one of the teams most interested in drafting Mayfield. Asked about the performance of specific players, Goldman declines to comment—but he does acknowledge that a ’18 QB prospect scored in the top 100 of all athetes ever to take the AIQ, and that this passer notched the second-highest score of the 63 QBs who have taken the test. Two league sources confirmed that this player was indeed Mayfield.

So what? you might ask. Ryan Fitzpatrick—Harvard, Class of 2005—scored a near-perfect 48 out of 50 on the Wonderlic, and he’s been nothing more than an average NFL starter. Mayfield’s test scores make an interesting data point, but teams looking at him would be better off concentrating on how he was asked to use his mind in Oklahoma’s offense, where his mental aptitude translated to a role of elevated responsibility compared to the typical Air Raid QB.But let’s back up. The Air Raid, particularly prevalent across college football over the past 15-odd years, is a variation on the spread offense. It emphasizes passing and tempo, simplifies playcalling and lengthens the splits between lineman so as to increase the distance between edge rushers and the quarterback, who is usually asked to make simple reads and quick throws. A good number of Air Raid passers have put up prolific passing numbers in college, but typically they’ve been slow to adapt to the pro game (Case Keenum) or bombed entirely (Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden, Geno Smith).

NFL coaches who are skeptical of Mayfield’s role in such a system have heard Lincoln Riley’s message loud and clear: Don’t be. Baker had “more responsibility here than he would have with any NFL team,” says Mayfield’s Oklahoma coach in 2017. “Some [Air Raid offenses have someone] hold up a board on the sideline telling everybody what to do—[that QB] doesn’t have any communication responsibilities. But [Baker played] a larger hand here, a pivotal role.

“Mentally, he’s the best one I’ve ever been around—and I’ve been around some good ones. There’s not a guy who can walk in and process what this guy can process. That’s not gonna be an issue at the next level, regardless of the system or amount of verbiage.”

Mayfield’s intelligence, Riley explains, allowed OU to make weekly adjustments and install new concepts that would have been impossible with anybody else. “You show something to him once,” says Riley, “he runs it two or three times over the course of the week, and he’s got it down. We were able to adjust so much from week to week because of him. I always had confidence that if I presented it the right way, he would run with it.” Week to week, but also moment to moment. At the OU football facility in Norman, Riley dials up one play on video, against Oklahoma State last fall, where the QB’s adjustment saved his skin: OSU is threatening a six-man pressure with a free blitzer creeping up to attack the gap between the right guard and tackle; Mayfield recognizes this and steps toward his line to change the protection. The line slides right and OU’s running back moves from Mayfield’s right hip to his left, putting the right tackle on the blitzer and adjusting the strength to where Mayfield wanted to go with the ball. In the end, says Riley, “It’s the difference between a 10-yard completion and an 80-yard touchdown.”

Riley was Mayfield’s offensive coordinator for two seasons under Bob Stoops before taking over the Sooners’ head job in 2017. Together coach and QB climbed to 12–1, No. 2 in the nation, before losing 54–48 to Georgia in the semifinal of the college football playoff this past New Year’s Day. But all that success came with a few headaches. Mayfield taunted Kansas with a crotch grab and planted an OU flag at midfield after a road win over Ohio State. Before the season he was arrested for attempting to flee police officers who were questioning him about an altercation near a food truck. (Remember our Manual of Modern Quarterbacking? Running from the police sits atop the list of no-nos.)

Yet Riley reports back that teams haven’t seemed too preoccupied with the high-profile missteps when they’ve consulted him about his old QB. They’ve wanted to know more about Baker’s personality, how he practiced and how quickly he learned. In other words: On a scale of Ryan Leaf to Peyton Manning, where does Baker Mayfield fall?

“He wins the job as a walk-on freshman at Texas Tech. He beats out a bunch of other good players despite having no experience in the offense here at Oklahoma,” says Riley. “He’s always been able to [adapt] to new situations and win over teammates and master schematically what you want him to pretty quick. I don’t think there’s anything they’re gonna put in front of him that he can’t handle.”

Before the Heisman and the Big 12 leap of faith and that argument in the kitchen, there was the Aha! moment, says Gina Mayfield, who believes she can track the birth of Baker vs. the World to a specific point. This was 2011, and Gina had driven her son to Dallas for an Elite 11 regional camp run by former NFL quarterback Trent Dilfer. Even as a casual fan of the sport, she could tell something was off that day. “We were naïve,” Gina says. “These guys that everybody was touting and trying to recruit, he was side-by-side with them, and he beat them—and it didn’t get portrayed [by the scouting websites] that way. We felt [that camp] was designed for certain people to be propped up. It made Baker aware. That was one of those moments where you say: What I’m capable of may not be what they say. I’m pretty sure I can do this.”

“I could throw then just like I can throw now,” says Mayfield, “and [these experts] sat there and ooh’d and aah’d over these other guys. That was the first qualifying camp for Elite 11—and the last one I ever went to.”

It was a moment that James Mayfield would build on later when it came time for his son to decide where to go to college. Just remember how wrong they all were back then. They’re wrong now too. After some convincing, Baker walked on at Texas Tech and won the starting job; then he fell out with the coaching staff and walked on at Oklahoma. He spent hours diving into a new playbook, sneaking into Memorial Stadium at night to visualize and walk through plays on the Bermuda grass.

“He came in believing he was the guy,” says linebacker Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, who was a Sooners sophomore when Mayfield arrived in 2015. “At first people were like, Huh? But he earned the respect so fast. . . . On the first day, it looked like he’d played with those receivers for 10 years. When we got back in the locker room, all the receivers were like, That’s the guy I want.”

It should come as no surprise: Mayfield, whose 2016 and ’17 seasons rank No. 1 and No. 2 all time in the NCAA (by a wide margin) for passer rating, believes that if anybody can turn around the 0–16 Browns, owners of the No. 1 and No. 4 picks in this year’s draft, he can. The legend doesn’t rest on its laurels. It has to be groomed, built upon and, above all, defended. There is no doubting Baker Mayfield. If you do, history says you’ll come to regret it. You may even hear about it from the man himself.

Last fall, after the flag-planting and the crotch-grabbing, one media member tweeted out that Mayfield would be of no interest to an NFL team given that sort of behavior. The QB took a screenshot and stored it on his phone. He’d look at it when he worked out, friends say, for motivation. Then, in March, as it became clear that his would be one of the first names called at the draft in Dallas, he tracked down that media member’s phone number and sent him the screenshot.

“Who’s this?” the recipient asked.

“Someone who’s going to text you on April 26.”

 

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1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I don't think there's anything wrong with the screenshotting. Lots of ultra competitive players do that.

I don't like the "didn't study the Chargers that hard" stuff... Don't love the shirtless magazine cover or the documentary.

But honestly, the incredible confidence and drive to be great and prove everyone wrong is exactly what you want in a QB. I wish he were a little more mature and could manage his self image more effectively but I think that mindset is almost ideal in a QB.

I would love to have a QB other teams hated.

so you have 32 NFL playbooks to study and you choose the make the smart move and spend more time studying the ones that actully have a decision in drafting you and are HONEST about it and somehow that's a mistake ? I like the honesty aspect about that situation and if people can't deal with that and a shirtless picture oh well.

This kid is going to be a great NFL QB

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12 minutes ago, New York Mick said:

He better have thick skin because NY is going to eat him alive

If he comes here and plays bad yes I agree but if he comes here and plays really good and shows the same intensity he did in College watch out. This kid excelled at every level always against the odds and there is no reason to think he wont keep doing that

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For what it's worth...(I think the kids write FWIW)

The Instagram account that posted the cover of SI is not Mayflield's account....it's a fan page.  So at least he's personally not promoting that ridiculous cover.

If you look at his verified account, he's much more into posting pictures of his smokeshow of a girlfriend.

 

 

 

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You know who never did any of this sh*t because he's busy actually trying to get better at football, mastering his craft, winning games that matter, graduating early, building homes for underprivileged children while giving his game checks to faculty in Houston who's lives were devastated by a Hurricane and the Jets could have had him last year at #6?

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1 minute ago, JiF said:

You know who never did any of this sh*t because he's busy actually trying to get better at football, mastering his craft, winning games that matter, graduating early, building homes for underprivileged children while giving his game checks to faculty in Houston who's lives were devastated by a Hurricane and the Jets could have had him last year at #6?

Can the Jets go back in time and draft Deshaun Watson? If the answer is no, then stop chewing yourself about it and look forward.

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2 hours ago, MDL_JET said:

That’s not to say he doesn’t listen. His camp—Mills and his partner-son, Tom; marketing agents Patrick Hayes and Lindsey Waterhouse; James, Gina and Baker’s older brother, Matt—has been successful

 

Let's not gloss over the fact that this kid has a camp and "marketing agents" that thought that cover pic was a good idea. 

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1 minute ago, Smashmouth said:

@Lupz27 So you butt fumbled me for applauding honesty . Maybe you like to be bullsh*tted and get told only what you want to hear and that's cool if that's what you're about, I prefer the honesty 

No I butt fumbled your post for applauding someone you declare as the best QB in this draft admitting he hasn’t given the process it’s all, it’s arrogance to a fault, and proof of his concerning immaturity, so yes applauding that is butt fumble worthy.  It’s ok Baker is honest about this, but god forbid Rosen is honest in his questioning the reason why lol.

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This article paints Baker in a poor light as far as becoming the face of a franchise IMO, and probably in some NFL teams opinions, why would he allow this to be released before the NFL draft, and not after makes no sense other then blind arrogance, and lack of humility.

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8 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

And WTF does this mean?

Did he purposely try to be disliked with certain teams?  

Doubt it but the implication that he spent more time in playbooks of teams in the top third of the draft rather than the bottom third in a effort to be more prepared and fare better with those teams is probably something every QB does it's just common sense, only problem is Baker was candid and honest about it. Keep in mind these guys do this in an abbreviated amount of time I'm sure they need to make some choices. 

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