Jets Short on Picks, Trade Chips on Draft Day…who Could be Shipped out?

[JetNation]

With the NFL draft just over a week away and the New York Jets going in to the event with just six draft choices, there will undoubtedly be those fans hoping to see Gang Green make some moves just before or during the draft to pick up an extra selection or two via trade.

How realistic is that possibility with only one pick before pick 72 that’s already earmarked for a quarterback and a roster with few players who are in demand?  Not very, but there are a couple of ways GM Mike Maccagnan can make something happen.

First and foremost, the most valuable commodity Maccagnan has to work with is the team’s third round draft choice (72nd overall), but how far would the Jets be willing to move down in a draft where they’ll have no choices between no. 3 and no. 72?  Probably not very far, meaning very little compensation is likely if a deal is made.

In terms of players the Jets could look to move, the possibility of adding anything more than some 6th or 7th round picks is unlikely, but here are a few names to watch along with what cap saving it would bring according to overthecap.com.

RB Bilal Powell: The Jets have added free agent running back Isaiah Crowell and made a push to add running back Jerick McKinnon before bringing in Thomas Rawls.  Powell is no spring chicken and with a much younger Elijah McGuire on the roster, it’s not out of the question to assume Powell could be moving on.  In a deep draft class however, few teams would be willing to give up much for an aging running back. (Cap savings if traded: $4 million)

LG James Carpenter: Carpenter played extremely well in the team’s power run scheme in years 1 and 2 with the team, but a switch to more zone hurt Carpenter and the offense a great deal in 2017.  A team looking for a mauling left guard could call the Jets about Carpenter as the team should be looking for an eventual replacement in the draft. (Cap savings if traded: $4.7 million)

WR Jermaine Kearse: By no means are we suggesting the Jets should look to trade Kearse, but if the team is going to take a look at a player who could bring something back in trade, Kearse has to be on the list.  A quality receiver at a fair price ($5 million) in 2018, Kearse may be expendable as the Jets now have Terrelle Pryor, Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa to go along with Chad Hansen and Ardarius Stewart who are set to enter year two.  With a WR class that isn’t generating much buzz, there may be a team willing to part with a late-round pick for Kearse’s services.  (Cap savings if traded $5.5 million)

As #Jets prepare to start Josh McCown today, worth noting: 2 teams inquired about trading for Bryce Petty this summer. NYJ wouldn’t deal him

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 10, 2017

QB Bryce Petty: Following an unimpressive showing at QB for Gang Green, Petty wouldn’t command more than a conditional 7th round pick at some point.  However, according to NFL insider Ian Rapoport, there were teams showing interest in Petty this past off-season when he hadn’t done very much as a starter up to that point.  (Cap savings if traded: $705,000)

There’s not much there to trade away, but if Gang Green comes away with a franchise QB, five additional players and combine that with their haul in free agency, things will still be looking up for the team’s long-term future.

 

 

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[Greenseed4]

I approve this article. 

[section314]

Buffalo moved Taylor, Browns moved Kizer, why couldn't we move Petty?

[Untouchable]

Only one I would move is Carpenter and that’s only if we draft a guy like Frank Ragnow, Braden Smith, or Mason Cole in Round 3.

Trading Kearse is a big no-no with Anderson being a f*ckhead, Enunwa’s health up in the air and Pryor basically being a 1 year wonder to this point.

Don’t see anyone giving up more than a 7th for an aging Powell so what's the point? He’s still a solid 3rd down back who is excellent in pass protection, something we could sure as hell use with a rookie QB. 

You aren’t getting dick for Petty. Might as well just cut him now.

[Nixhead]

What the heck can the Jets get for Bryce Petty? Maybe some hitting dummies? No team gonna give the Jets a low 7th round pick for Petty! They can pick him up for free once the Jets let him go real soon.

[Untouchable]

2 minutes ago, section314 said:

Buffalo moved Taylor, Browns moved Kizer, why couldn't we move Petty?

Taylor is a proven, solid starting QB.

Kizer showed some flashes as a rookie on a terrible team.

Petty rode the bench for the better part of 3 years, finally got his chance, and looked like poop on a stick.

[GreenFish]

Powell is worth more to us than what we can get in the trade market. Same with Kearse.

If we can get a 7th for Petty. Do it. Otherwise cut him.

If we draft interior lineman, trade Carpenter. We can probably get a 5th for him. 

[mphtrilogy]

Only move for picks  I see is moving down from 3 and then moving down again...

[Greenseed4]

3 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Taylor is a proven, solid starting QB.

Kizer showed some flashes as a rookie on a terrible team.

Petty rode the bench for the better part of 3 years, finally got his chance, and looked like poop on a stick.

Luckily for us, the Jets have smartly perpetuated having incompetent coaching, so other teams will think it’s the staff, not the player. 

[Snell41]

Buffalo moved Taylor, Browns moved Kizer, why couldn't we move Petty?

Because Petty couldn’t hold Taylors jock, and Kizer was a rookie at least. Petty is garbage, he’ll be out of the league opening day.


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[k-met57]

53 minutes ago, JetNation said:

With the NFL draft just over a week away and the New York Jets going in to the event with just six draft choices, there will undoubtedly be those fans hoping to see Gang Green make some moves just before or during the draft to pick up an extra selection or two via trade.

How realistic is that possibility with only one pick before pick 72 that’s already earmarked for a quarterback and a roster with few players who are in demand?  Not very, but there are a couple of ways GM Mike Maccagnan can make something happen.

First and foremost, the most valuable commodity Maccagnan has to work with is the team’s third round draft choice (72nd overall), but how far would the Jets be willing to move down in a draft where they’ll have no choices between no. 3 and no. 72?  Probably not very far, meaning very little compensation is likely if a deal is made.

In terms of players the Jets could look to move, the possibility of adding anything more than some 6th or 7th round picks is unlikely, but here are a few names to watch along with what cap saving it would bring according to overthecap.com.

RB Bilal Powell: The Jets have added free agent running back Isaiah Crowell and made a push to add running back Jerick McKinnon before bringing in Thomas Rawls.  Powell is no spring chicken and with a much younger Elijah McGuire on the roster, it’s not out of the question to assume Powell could be moving on.  In a deep draft class however, few teams would be willing to give up much for an aging running back. (Cap savings if traded: $4 million)

LG James Carpenter: Carpenter played extremely well in the team’s power run scheme in years 1 and 2 with the team, but a switch to more zone hurt Carpenter and the offense a great deal in 2017.  A team looking for a mauling left guard could call the Jets about Carpenter as the team should be looking for an eventual replacement in the draft. (Cap savings if traded: $4.7 million)

WR Jermaine Kearse: By no means are we suggesting the Jets should look to trade Kearse, but if the team is going to take a look at a player who could bring something back in trade, Kearse has to be on the list.  A quality receiver at a fair price ($5 million) in 2018, Kearse may be expendable as the Jets now have Terrelle Pryor, Robby Anderson, Quincy Enunwa to go along with Chad Hansen and Ardarius Stewart who are set to enter year two.  With a WR class that isn’t generating much buzz, there may be a team willing to part with a late-round pick for Kearse’s services.  (Cap savings if traded $5.5 million)

 

 

QB Bryce Petty: Following an unimpressive showing at QB for Gang Green, Petty wouldn’t command more than a conditional 7th round pick at some point.  However, according to NFL insider Ian Rapoport, there were teams showing interest in Petty this past off-season when he hadn’t done very much as a starter up to that point.  (Cap savings if traded: $705,000)

 

There’s not much there to trade away, but if Gang Green comes away with a franchise QB, five additional players and combine that with their haul in free agency, things will still be looking up for the team’s long-term future.

 

 

 

 

 

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good to know that Petty HAD value...

[GreenFish]

7 minutes ago, Snell41 said:

 

Because Petty couldn’t hold Taylors jock, and Kizer was a rookie at least. Petty is garbage, he’ll be out of the league opening day.


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The Browns trade Kevin Hogan for the net value of a 7th round pick (they swapped 6th round picks). They were going to cut him. Not out of this world to think Petty can net us a 7th round pick. 

[Joe W. Namath]

Leonard Williams is the guy to move.  See if we can get a 2nd for him.

[HessStation]

Kearse is the only one of value like a 4th rounder and will be needed for a young QB. Maybe a 6th for Carpenter?

[Smashmouth]

26 minutes ago, section314 said:

Buffalo moved Taylor, Browns moved Kizer, why couldn't we move Petty?

well because Petty is horrible. I mean really horrible

[JiFtheOracle]

27 minutes ago, section314 said:

Buffalo moved Taylor, Browns moved Kizer, why couldn't we move Petty?

The article said the Jets wouldnt deal him. So the question isnt what could we get for Bryce Petty?  The question is, why didnt we take whatever the **** we could get for Bryce Petty?  There was a team actually willing to trade for him and we said no?  Why?  Is Bryce Petty part of this teams future?

[CTJetsFan]

One thing I wondered if the Jets would try with all of their cap room was something like what Cleveland did with Osweiller last year: take on a bad contract from a team who would include a decent pick (2nd or 3rd) in exchange for a mediocre player or future pick from us.

[kthisguy]

Kearse/Powell are worth more to us than the late round pick we’d get.

I would move Carpenter for a pick - what could we get a 6th?

Petty - if they can find a taker it would likely only net us a conditional pick next year otherwise he’ll be released once they know Teddy can actually step onto the field.



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[Jetsplayer21]

30 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Only one I would move is Carpenter and that’s only if we draft a guy like Frank Ragnow, Braden Smith, or Mason Cole in Round 3.

Trading Kearse is a big no-no with Anderson being a f*ckhead, Enunwa’s health up in the air and Pryor basically being a 1 year wonder to this point.

Don’t see anyone giving up more than a 7th for an aging Powell so what's the point? He’s still a solid 3rd down back who is excellent in pass protection, something we could sure as hell use with a rookie QB. 

You aren’t getting dick for Petty. Might as well just cut him now.

Mac and Bowles pick a lineman before 5th round ? That would be remarkable lol

[section314]

6 minutes ago, JiF said:

The article said the Jets wouldnt deal him. So the question isnt what could we get for Bryce Petty?  The question is, why didnt we take whatever the **** we could get for Bryce Petty?  There was a team actually willing to trade for him and we said no?  Why?  Is Bryce Petty part of this teams future?

 

8 minutes ago, JiF said:

The article said the Jets wouldnt deal him. So the question isnt what could we get for Bryce Petty?  The question is, why didnt we take whatever the **** we could get for Bryce Petty?  There was a team actually willing to trade for him and we said no?  Why?  Is Bryce Petty part of this teams future?

Honestly have no clue, unless this was talk before last year and the plan was for Petty or Hack to start all 16 games and get us the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft. If this was a recent thing, circa 2018, it is criminal. This is a question for @Mogglez

[JiFtheOracle]

Great article.  I dont find this draft to be particularly good or very deep.  The differences between these dudes after the first 40-50 or so players are slim and not very promising.  Except for RB and QB which really are the only deep positions in this draft IMO.

That said, I think what Mac did last year could be the way to go this year.  Trade those mid rounders and accumulate a few extra late rounders.  There are some decent sleeper prospects that I like this year just as much as some of those guys projected in the mid rounds.  

I dont really see any particular player on the roster worth what I would think we could get for them in return.  Maybe Williams?  Get a 2nd rounder for him? Is that worth it? I dont think so.  Maybe Lee?  Get a 5th/6th rounder for him?  I guess.  Kearse.  Powell.  Carpenter.  5th or 6th roudners?   Yeah, I'd probably do that too.  Maybe not Kearse.  Our WR core is a huge question mark. 

[Gas2No99]

24 minutes ago, mphtrilogy said:

Only move for picks  I see is moving down from 3 and then moving down again...

Yup

Classic MacCagnan is to get "value" in terms of players and where they are chosen. He'll trade back to get a 5th rounder he traded away for that SF CB in Oct, and probably try to make our 4th rounder into 2 more depth/ST players on CHEAP contracts. 

[section314]

17 minutes ago, JiF said:

The article said the Jets wouldnt deal him. So the question isnt what could we get for Bryce Petty?  The question is, why didnt we take whatever the **** we could get for Bryce Petty?  There was a team actually willing to trade for him and we said no?  Why?  Is Bryce Petty part of this teams future?

One other point to consider.....if Petty/Hack played 10-12 games last year, and got us the #1 or #2 pick this year, and we didn't have to trade all those picks, would fans still hate Macc for drafting them? 

[SouthernJet]

for some reason they are floating Mayes name.

[56mehl56]

27 minutes ago, JiF said:

The article said the Jets wouldnt deal him. So the question isnt what could we get for Bryce Petty?  The question is, why didnt we take whatever the **** we could get for Bryce Petty?  There was a team actually willing to trade for him and we said no?  Why?  Is Bryce Petty part of this teams future?

Perhaps McCags already had a beer coozie or an insulated coffee mug. Anything more than that and he should have deliivered Petty to that team in person.

[Joe Jets fan]

55 minutes ago, k-met57 said:

good to know that Petty HAD value...

And there it is!!

[Lego My Lageman]

All of these guys have more value on the team, especially Powell. Who would give us anything worth while for these guys?

[Jetster]

1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Leonard Williams is the guy to move.  See if we can get a 2nd for him.

Why would you trade your best Dlineman when your going to be 100 million under the cap next year? 

[bostonmajet]

The title of this thread doesn't match the article really. We are a $100 million under cap, are we really going to trade away players like Kerse for a late round pick? How much would we get for trading them all away?

We are going to fill spots with FA. Why trade away players for a late round pick unless they are really useless? We have all of our picks next year except our 2nd; and unless whomever we draft lights it up from day 1, we are likely picking in the top 20 again (if not higher).

I would expect if our draft pick pans out and Teddy is healthy, we might be able to trade him away at the end of training camp for a pick. If Kerse becomes expendable, we can do the same for him; this is when a desperate team may pay more.

[Paradis]

1 hour ago, SouthernJet said:

for some reason they are floating Mayes name.

Unless it's for Dalvin Cook, then I would kill everyone, including myself - if that happened. I insist the franchise has to live this one down. 

[Larz]

GM's have really taken the approach in recent years to just wait until the player is cut 

I would be shocked if the Jets got anything for anyone 

[varjet]

The strategy last year of trading down out of the third round to get more picks was not good, because Mac passed on players that ended up being good for more players who are not yet good.  

The Jets should trade any player who is not under contract in 2019 or that will be 30 in 2019, for whatever they can get for them.   This is about building from the bottom up.

If a QB needy team would take Anderson, trade him.  

[NYs Stepchild]

I believe we have around 30 players on the block. 

[Embrace the Suck]

2 hours ago, Untouchable said:

Only one I would move is Carpenter and that’s only if we draft a guy like Frank Ragnow, Braden Smith, or Mason Cole in Round 3.

Trading Kearse is a big no-no with Anderson being a f*ckhead, Enunwa’s health up in the air and Pryor basically being a 1 year wonder to this point.

Don’t see anyone giving up more than a 7th for an aging Powell so what's the point? He’s still a solid 3rd down back who is excellent in pass protection, something we could sure as hell use with a rookie QB. 

You aren’t getting dick for Petty. Might as well just cut him now.

Problem is he won't see the field. He's #4 at this point. They should take what they can and get something instead of just cutting him later.

[Embrace the Suck]

2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Leonard Williams is the guy to move.  See if we can get a 2nd for him.