Pointdexter Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I was the board's debbie downer when we drafted Quinton Coples, Lee, The Hack Attack, the famous doubling down on safeties, and on and on and on. Let's face it, the Jets have been atrocious on draft day. If we draft Mayfield, he will be the first pick I've championed in years. Trying not to get my hopes up, but totally getting my hopes up. Advanced Analytics Indicate Baker Mayfield Will Have Success in the NFL Mayfield fared extremely well on a little-known test called the Athletic Intelligence Quotient. 4 weeks ago In addition to throwing passes and undergoing medical tests, controversial quarterback prospect Baker Mayfield took a test called the AIQ (Athletic Intelligence Quotient) at the NFL combine. Apparently, he did really, really well. Out of 63 quarterbacks who have taken the test – which is said to measure intelligence in a way that removes the socioeconomic and cultural biases which are found in the better-known Wonderlic – since 2012, Mayfield had the second-highest score, two league sources told Sports Illustrated. Mayfield’s mark also ranked in the top 100 of the more than 4,000 AIQ test scores that have ever been recorded at the combine. According to AIQ developer Dr. Scott Goldman, that bodes well for Mayfield’s chances for success in the NFL. “We’ve found a statistically-significant correlation between our test and on-field performance, and this is the first test I’m aware of that has found that in the NFL,” Goldman said. “Players with a high AIQ tend to get on the field sooner and stay on the field longer.” As of now, quarterbacks Josh Allen and Sam Darnold are projected to be drafted before Mayfield. http://www.realclearlife.com/sports/advanced-analytics-indicate-baker-mayfield-will-have-success-in-the-nfl/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 it's so hard to say. i just know when i heard favre relate a play in the game it was simply amazing he had so much detail in what the other players were doing. i don't know if qb's as a rule can do that. but if mayfield can see the field and have the same court sense then he could be a real find. it seems the top guys always seem to know where everyone is and make plays accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Advanced analytics against college level talent means jack sh*t, the variable is flawed, and not conducive to accurate analysis. I’d say this about any QB, not just Mayfield, I mean I bet advanced analytics from Bryce Petty’s 2017 preseason would suggest NFL success for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 This is wrong. He's small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 If he is available take him. Simple as that. Tired of all the speculation and just want the friggin draft to get here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: I was the board's debbie downer when we drafted Quinton Coples, Lee, The Hack Attack, the famous doubling down on safeties, and on and on and on. Let's face it, the Jets have been atrocious on draft day. If we draft Mayfield, he will be the first pick I've championed in years. Trying not to get my hopes up, but totally getting my hopes up. Advanced Analytics Indicate Baker Mayfield Will Have Success in the NFL Mayfield fared extremely well on a little-known test called the Athletic Intelligence Quotient. 4 weeks ago In addition to throwing passes and undergoing medical tests, controversial quarterback prospect Baker Mayfield took a test called the AIQ (Athletic Intelligence Quotient) at the NFL combine. Apparently, he did really, really well. Out of 63 quarterbacks who have taken the test – which is said to measure intelligence in a way that removes the socioeconomic and cultural biases which are found in the better-known Wonderlic – since 2012, Mayfield had the second-highest score, two league sources told Sports Illustrated. Mayfield’s mark also ranked in the top 100 of the more than 4,000 AIQ test scores that have ever been recorded at the combine. According to AIQ developer Dr. Scott Goldman, that bodes well for Mayfield’s chances for success in the NFL. “We’ve found a statistically-significant correlation between our test and on-field performance, and this is the first test I’m aware of that has found that in the NFL,” Goldman said. “Players with a high AIQ tend to get on the field sooner and stay on the field longer.” As of now, quarterbacks Josh Allen and Sam Darnold are projected to be drafted before Mayfield. http://www.realclearlife.com/sports/advanced-analytics-indicate-baker-mayfield-will-have-success-in-the-nfl/ I'm at a point now that I'll be crushed if he gets taken before us. I'm on board with Mayfield, I said before Baker did an accuracy test at the NFL network studios in Culver City CA. They set up 5 nets with 1' X 1' logos of the teams he might go to. He just strolled out in jeans & a Tshirt, spun his arm around a little to warmup & proceeded to throw perfect darts right through the center of these logos, tearing a few of them in half. Scientific? Of course not, but god damn, it was an incredible display of accuracy with confidence. It was f*cking impressive. I think Mayfield is a taller, stronger, better built, more accurate QB with a stronger arm than Doug Flutie, who would probably been a star in this new NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Wonder who the highest score was? .. Also wonder why most times people don't pronounce the "t" in Pointdexter ... But I guess that's besides the poin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 If we get Baker or Josh Rosen, we'll finally get to see our WRs at their best. Both of these guys are accurate & throw with anticipation, so we'll finally see exciting football by seeing our WRs actually have a chance to RUN after catching the ball! Our YAC numbers with go WAY UP. Same thing happened with Goff once he got protection and got comfortable in the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Hopefully Baker will still be on board when we pick & Hopefully Macc picks him. ps- "socioeconomic and cultural biases"... I would Love to see their examples of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Ah the old look at my track record post. A timeless classic. NFL draft season bay-bay! Catch the fever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Honestly I have been negative on the guy due to the system he has been playing in but I am slowly becoming a convert which in my world means he gets drafted # 1 or #2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, rangerous said: it's so hard to say. i just know when i heard favre relate a play in the game it was simply amazing he had so much detail in what the other players were doing. i don't know if qb's as a rule can do that. but if mayfield can see the field and have the same court sense then he could be a real find. it seems the top guys always seem to know where everyone is and make plays accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 38 minutes ago, jetsons said: Hopefully Baker will still be on board when we pick & Hopefully Macc picks him. ps- "socioeconomic and cultural biases"... I would Love to see their examples of that. The wonderlic is culturally biased? I’d love to find out how that’s even possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Philc1 said: The wonderlic is culturally biased? I’d love to find out how that’s even possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Sonny Werblin said: Wonderlic and SATs are totally different tests. And I don’t buy the SATs being culturally biased that’s nonsense just because the verbal portion requires you to speak English well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetster said: I'm at a point now that I'll be crushed if he gets taken before us. I'm on board with Mayfield, I said before Baker did an accuracy test at the NFL network studios in Culver City CA. They set up 5 nets with 1' X 1' logos of the teams he might go to. He just strolled out in jeans & a Tshirt, spun his arm around a little to warmup & proceeded to throw perfect darts right through the center of these logos, tearing a few of them in half. Scientific? Of course not, but god damn, it was an incredible display of accuracy with confidence. It was f*cking impressive. I think Mayfield is a taller, stronger, better built, more accurate QB with a stronger arm than Doug Flutie, who would probably been a star in this new NFL. I saw that. Goofy but impressive. It left me with the impression that you could wake him up out of a deep sleep and he would nail the target. Can't help but think of Allen throwing it over the net at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetster said: If we get Baker or Josh Rosen, we'll finally get to see our WRs at their best. Both of these guys are accurate & throw with anticipation, so we'll finally see exciting football by seeing our WRs actually have a chance to RUN after catching the ball! Our YAC numbers with go WAY UP. Same thing happened with Goff once he got protection and got comfortable in the pocket. Rosen can look a bit like a statue at times, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 It's hard for me to imagine Bake Mayfield as some prestigious intellect. Did he even graduate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 i can see it now, after Baker flames out of the league and when we are drafting a QB again its going to be a running joke....yes but how did he do on the AIQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Regardless of who you favor, this article is pointless unless they furnish the complete list of test takers and their percentiles. All this is saying is that according to the parameters of the test which was administered, Baker scored second highest. How can anyone glean what that means for his prospective NFL career without seeing other results or seeing the parameters of the test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Regardless of who you favor, this article is pointless unless they furnish the complete list of test takers and their percentiles. All this is saying is that according to the parameters of the test which was administered, Baker scored second highest. How can anyone glean what that means for his prospective NFL career without seeing other results or seeing the parameters of the test? I would think they ask a fee for that information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, JiF said: It's hard for me to imagine Bake Mayfield as some prestigious intellect. Did he even graduate? It is not supposed to gauge "intellect." My understanding its that it's supposed to be designed to determine whether their brain is wired for the type of quick decisions, etc. that are required in athletics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 yeah he is a model of intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, JetFaninMI said: If he is available take him. Simple as that. Tired of all the speculation and just want the friggin draft to get here. Why the **** wouldn't he be available? 1 hour ago, Jetster said: If we get Baker or Josh Rosen, we'll finally get to see our WRs at their best. Both of these guys are accurate & throw with anticipation, so we'll finally see exciting football by seeing our WRs actually have a chance to RUN after catching the ball! Our YAC numbers with go WAY UP. Same thing happened with Goff once he got protection and got comfortable in the pocket. So Goff needed protection and to be comfortable in the pocket, but Mayfield won't? 1 hour ago, jetsons said: Hopefully Baker will still be on board when we pick & Hopefully Macc picks him. ps- "socioeconomic and cultural biases"... I would Love to see their examples of that. I find it interesting that Mayfield needed a test without "socioeconomic and cultural biases" to score better than Allen. I guess that those California cantaloupe farmer have all the socioeconomic advantages. Then again, maybe Allen is the guy that scored higher. Or maybe it was Hackenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 he is johnny football part two in many respects-I want no part of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 hours ago, ljr said: Wonder who the highest score was? Has to be a safety, and Mac KNOWS it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: It is not supposed to gauge "intellect." My understanding its that it's supposed to be designed to determine whether their brain is wired fro the type of quick decisions, etc. that are required in athletics. Interesting. I'd love to the see the questions. I actually did something that was supposed to determine quick decision making while in high school looking at playing ball in college. It was a race car video game and while you were driving the car, you had to hit certain buttons based on cues from the screen. Supposedly, this test was a way to predict/determine your ability to read and react to distractions while you're driving and it would relate to things like, playing QB or OL or in my case, to play point guard....having the vision to run the play but see the whole court type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: The wonderlic is culturally biased? I’d love to find out how that’s even possible Everything is culturally and racially biased. We live in a world of deep and unrelenting racism, conscious and unconscious, and it is a cause for nearly every problem our society suffers under today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, kmnj said: he is johnny football part two in many respects-I want no part of him Unlike Manziel, this guy is a worker and is reported to have a photographic memory for the playbook. Manziel has said he made no effort whatsoever to memorize Cleveland's schemes. If we don't draft this guy I hope no one in the AFC east does, because he will kill us for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, JiF said: Interesting. I'd love to the see the questions. I actually did something that was supposed to determine quick decision making while in high school looking at playing ball in college. It was a race car video game and while you were driving the car, you had to hit certain buttons based on cues from the screen. Supposedly, this test was a way to predict/determine your ability to read and react to distractions while you're driving and it would relate to things like, playing QB or OL or in my case, to play point guard....having the vision to run the play but see the whole court type of thing. JiF with the slick, no look, between the legs pass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Bruce Harper said: Unlike Manziel, this guy is a worker and is reported to have a photographic memory for the playbook. Manziel has said he made not effort whatsoever to memorize Cleveland's schemes. If we don't draft this guy I hope no one in the AFC east does, because he will kill us for years to come. watch his arrest video thats right I said his arrest video and tell me there should be no concern about how he will be in NY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, JiF said: Interesting. I'd love to the see the questions. I actually did something that was supposed to determine quick decision making while in high school looking at playing ball in college. It was a race car video game and while you were driving the car, you had to hit certain buttons based on cues from the screen. Supposedly, this test was a way to predict/determine your ability to read and react to distractions while you're driving and it would relate to things like, playing QB or OL or in my case, to play point guard....having the vision to run the play but see the whole court type of thing. How many pedestrians did you run over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, kmnj said: watch his arrest video thats right I said his arrest video and tell me there should be no concern about how he will be in NY In nyc the police don't stop you for walking around intox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, kmnj said: watch his arrest video thats right I said his arrest video and tell me there should be no concern about how he will be in NY I've seen you post it, yes. These guys aren't choirboys and if they were they'd probably be pretty crappy at football. My feeling is that this guy wants to succeed so badly that he is not going to let this kind of stuff get in his way. You hate him. We get it. Only time will tell if he will be the success I expect him to be in the NFL. Who do you want to draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Why the **** wouldn't he be available? So Goff needed protection and to be comfortable in the pocket, but Mayfield won't? I find it interesting that Mayfield needed a test without "socioeconomic and cultural biases" to score better than Allen. I guess that those California cantaloupe farmer have all the socioeconomic advantages. Then again, maybe Allen is the guy that scored higher. Or maybe it was Hackenberg. Why wouldn't he be available? Come on.Do I need to spell it out for you? Or do you think Mayfield is so bad no one but the Jets are stupid enough to take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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