Cimini has Jets finishing 7-9

[jetstream23]

4 hours ago, Larz said:

NFC north is brutal, AFC east is tough 

Schedule has a very difficult start and finish 

 

Sounds like we should tank!

 

 

[Jetlife33]

Silly to pick wins and losses before the draft. Especially with the jets due to the fact we don’t know what’s going to happen with the QB situation. 

[Jetlife33]

We don’t even know if our top 2 receivers are going to be able to play to start the season. Enunwa might not be healthy enough to play and Robby might get suspended. A lot of questions still to be answered. 

[JustInFudge]

6 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Now, if Maccagnan were smart and inclined toward self-preservation, he’d start leaking about a wedge between the coaching staff and the front office regarding the QB, about how Todd wanted Fitzpatrick and McCown, and how Todd saw John Morton as a threat, and how Todd isn’t giving the draft picks a chance to succeed. The ratings-challenged NFL didn’t give the Jets the first Monday Night Game because they expect Josh McCown to start that game over Baker Mayfield. There’s going to be intense pressure on Bowles to cave, and he’s not going to do it, and it should be the thing that starts Manish and co. down the old “Fire Todd” path. Maccagnan should start planting seeds today so he doesn’t get flushed with Bowles.

Does that need to be leaked though? Todd was the dude announcing Fitz the starter before he was even signed. Todd was the dude telling anyone that would listen that Josh is his favorite player he's ever coached and wants him to return.  If Mac was smart, he wouldnt even have to leak anything and instead, just direct Manish to those facts.

Besides, I think Mac is Todd's puppet anyway.

[kelly]

9 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Sounds like we should tank!

 

 

we should  

[Larz]

10 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Sounds like we should tank!

 

 

For an edge rusher! 

[UntouchableCrew]

I think his overall analysis (that the team will stay in the mix through the first ten games then fade from the playoff race during a tough final six games) is fair.

I think the AFC is weak enough that the Jets could absolutely contend for a wild card slot, though.

[Jetsplayer21]

32 minutes ago, JiF said:

Everything the Jets did this offseason was to ensure that if they take a QB, they can give said QB a red shirt season.  And bet your bottom dollar, that is exactly what will happen.  

Well Mac better make Bowles play the rookie end of the yr, if we are out of the playoff hunt. If bridgewater is healthy though he will be the #2, and I’m sure Mac wants to get him time to prove to the world how smart he was for revamping bridgewater career ha

[T0mShane]

11 minutes ago, JiF said:

Does that need to be leaked though? Todd was the dude announcing Fitz the starter before he was even signed. Todd was the dude telling anyone that would listen that Josh is his favorite player he's ever coached and wants him to return.  If Mac was smart, he wouldnt even have to leak anything and instead, just direct Manish to those facts.

Besides, I think Mac is Todd's puppet anyway.

Macc has to change the story from “Poor Todd got stuck with these bad quarterbacks” to “Insecure Todd wanted these bad quarterbacks.”

[T0mShane]

6 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Well Mac better make Bowles play the rookie end of the yr, if we are out of the playoff hunt. If bridgewater is healthy though he will be the #2, and I’m sure Mac wants to get him time to prove to the world how smart he was for revamping bridgewater career ha

IMO, you can’t even give Todd the out of using the “in the playoff hunt” crutch. 75% of the league is going to be “in the playoff hunt” all the way up through Week Twelve. 

[Jet Nut]

23 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said:

Silly to pick wins and losses before the draft. Especially with the jets due to the fact we don’t know what’s going to happen with the QB situation. 

This is the same crew that thought we would be lucky to win a single game a year ago. 

[Jetsplayer21]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

IMO, you can’t even give Todd the out of using the “in the playoff hunt” crutch. 75% of the league is going to be “in the playoff hunt” all the way up through Week Twelve. 

I know. Trust me I laughed when they kept losing last yr but Bowles said “ we are still in it.” All we had to do was lose 2 more games and we are picking #2 with 3 more 2nd round picks. But that’s water under the bridge now, unless we see 1 or 3 of those 3 players go on to great careers ha. 

  But back to your point. How does Mac say “ no Todd, we are realistically out of it make the switch .”

[T0mShane]

14 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

I know. Trust me I laughed when they kept losing last yr but Bowles said “ we are still in it.” All we had to do was lose 2 more games and we are picking #2 with 3 more 2nd round picks. But that’s water under the bridge now, unless we see 1 or 3 of those 3 players go on to great careers ha. 

  But back to your point. How does Mac say “ no Todd, we are realistically out of it make the switch .”

This is where the Jets stupid management structure comes in. In a real organization, Maccagnan would call Todd into the office around Week Four and tell him to start Mayfield/Rosen two weeks from that point. If Todd refuses, you’d be looking at Interim Head Coach Mike Caldwell. Of course, this would have been easier if Morton was still here, because Morton wasn’t one of Todd’s guys and was the only coach on the staff who was actually a viable head coach and not just one of Bowles’ otherwise unemployable pals. 98% of the reason Todd likes Bates is because Bates is a dead man walking to the rest of the League. Of course, this is all academic because Chris Johnson isn’t going to do a goddamn thing until Manish tells him to, which is why it’d be smart for Maccagnan to get out in front of this through the media.

[JustInFudge]

50 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

Well Mac better make Bowles play the rookie end of the yr, if we are out of the playoff hunt. If bridgewater is healthy though he will be the #2, and I’m sure Mac wants to get him time to prove to the world how smart he was for revamping bridgewater career ha

He didnt do that 2 years in a row...why would anything change?

[JustInFudge]

44 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Macc has to change the story from “Poor Todd got stuck with these bad quarterbacks” to “Insecure Todd wanted these bad quarterbacks.”

I think that already is the story, to be honest. 

[UnitedWhofans]

1 minute ago, JiF said:

He didnt do that 2 years in a row...why would anything change?

Besides it seems to be avoided in NY. Giants didn’t do it with Davis Webb

[UnitedWhofans]

The whole Bowles will play the veteran thing is askew anyway. Bowles will play the guy who is most likely to win him games. Whether that be the rookie or McCown, who knows?

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

I think that already is the story, to be honest. 

That’s only because you’re in the rural Jacksonville market.

[long suffering jets fan]

Here's the way I see it:

OL - Slightly better with replacements of Wes Johnson

RB - Same

WR - Slightly better 

QB - Same with McCown, worse with rookie for a little hopefully same by end of season

DL - Slightly worse without Wilk

DB - Better. More experienced at S and Trumaine Johnson.

LB - Slightly better.

Looks like 7 and 9 to me.  Losing 2 first round picks hurts this year, but hopefully helps in the long run.

 

 

 

 

[JustInFudge]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

That’s only because you’re in the rural Jacksonville market.

Yes me being in Jax a market with another NFL team is why Todd Bowles announced Fitz the starter before he was signed and publicly asked for Josh back stating he was his favorite player he's ever coached all because JiF lives in the greatest city in the country. 

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, JiF said:

Yes me being in Jax a market with another NFL team is why Todd Bowles announced Fitz the starter before he was signed and publicly asked for Josh back stating he was his favorite player he's ever coached all because JiF lives in the greatest city in the country. 

But the way the news is presented to you, there, in what is really Southern Georgia, isn’t how it’s experienced here, in a first-world environment with multiple newspapers that use multisyllabic words. 

[JustInFudge]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

But the way the news is presented to you, there, in what is really Southern Georgia, isn’t how it’s experienced here, in a first-world environment with multiple newspapers that use multisyllabic words. 

Paul Posluszny bought the house 2 doors down from me.  I get the inside scoop form him and dont use these 3rd world media outlets like ESPN and NFL Network you're referring to.

[bealeb319]

Last year all the experts were predicting jets with 0 wins if they are giving us 7 this year we are Superbowl bound

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[NoBowles]

47 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This is where the Jets stupid management structure comes in. In a real organization, Maccagnan would call Todd into the office around Week Four and tell him to start Mayfield/Rosen two weeks from that point. If Todd refuses, you’d be looking at Interim Head Coach Mike Caldwell. Of course, this would have been easier if Morton was still here, because Morton wasn’t one of Todd’s guys and was the only coach on the staff who was actually a viable head coach and not just one of Bowles’ otherwise unemployable pals. 98% of the reason Todd likes Bates is because Bates is a dead man walking to the rest of the League.

This goes WAY beyond just the starting QB. It also goes to the draft. When Todd Bowles comes to the office and says I LOVE Adams and if he is there, we HAVE to take him, you say thanks for your input Todd and chuckle when he leaves, knowing you probably have to fire the buffoon.

 

[Saul Goodman]

That’s more optimistic than my initial 5-11 take after looking at it game by game. But who really cares. All I care about is seeing flashes of greatness from the new QB. 

[Jetsplayer21]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

This is where the Jets stupid management structure comes in. In a real organization, Maccagnan would call Todd into the office around Week Four and tell him to start Mayfield/Rosen two weeks from that point. If Todd refuses, you’d be looking at Interim Head Coach Mike Caldwell. Of course, this would have been easier if Morton was still here, because Morton wasn’t one of Todd’s guys and was the only coach on the staff who was actually a viable head coach and not just one of Bowles’ otherwise unemployable pals. 98% of the reason Todd likes Bates is because Bates is a dead man walking to the rest of the League. Of course, this is all academic because Chris Johnson isn’t going to do a goddamn thing until Manish tells him to, which is why it’d be smart for Maccagnan to get out in front of this through the media.

Bowles fired Morton because Morton somehow got the offense to outperform his D where all the resources go to. Bowles hated Morton defied and proved him right, you have to pass to win in this league. Especially behind jets line. We all know Bowles is just another D guru just like rex who loves the “ ground and pound “ to run down the clock so his defense stats look better ha. 

   I wouldn’t be surprised if the rookie doesn’t play at all this yr. If he is not playing by weak 4-5, why even bring him in week 14 and risk a major injury when we are out of competition. If the rookie is not ready to go week 1 for any reason by start of 19, it’s time to clean house. That includes injury to due terrible Oline neglect. 

[Larz]

5 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

How are you saying the dolphins and bills are good after their offseason? 

 

[rex-n-effect]

7 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

I know. Trust me I laughed when they kept losing last yr but Bowles said “ we are still in it.” All we had to do was lose 2 more games and we are picking #2 with 3 more 2nd round picks. But that’s water under the bridge now, unless we see 1 or 3 of those 3 players go on to great careers ha. 

  But back to your point. How does Mac say “ no Todd, we are realistically out of it make the switch .”

Bridgewater if you will

[ASH1962]

around here 7-9 is worth a 5 year contract extension