YankeeJet22 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 Darnold 2 Rosen 3 Allen My best guess of Mac's order, why he traded up. And although I prefer Darnold or Rosen, I will be fine with Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pac said: No offense but I think Dilfers opinion is a bit more educated than you 2 buffoons sitting in pajama pants guzzling luke warm cans of Labbatts and calling your dog over to eat up all the broken doritos that fall from your faces as you chomp away. 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: As opposed to you whining about whoeve we take like e all know you'll do? Sorry I'm not that miserable or wasted so much time repeating Minkah over and over again. And have been pretty consistent about wanting Darnold or Rosen as a first choice. Sorry you're so concerned with who I like. ITS GONNA BE NECK AND NECK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 hours ago, jetstream23 said: I'm going to start calling our GM "Tape Measure Macc" if he takes Allen. His entire pre-draft evaluation seems to consist of how big a guy is and how far he can throw the football. Did you see the combine? He blew away the other guys. Not just on distance, but he threw some nice touch passes and showed excellent mobility. Regardless, he's 4th on my list because of the risk, but he's definitely an interesting prospect. He's more than just a big arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Would anyone be surprised to learn that the Jets also had private workouts with Mayfield and Rosen, but that Allen was the only one who let the cat out of the bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Not a mayfield guy so this is good news to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 minute ago, slats said: Would anyone be surprised to learn that the Jets also had private workouts with Mayfield and Rosen, but that Allen was the only one who let the cat out of the bag? I think the surprising thing here is only one team wanted a private meeting with Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, long suffering jets fan said: Did you see the combine? He blew away the other guys. Not just on distance, but he threw some nice touch passes and showed excellent mobility. Regardless, he's 4th on my list because of the risk, but he's definitely an interesting prospect. He's more than just a big arm. Was the alpha male at the combine..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Titan24 said: Was the alpha male at the combine..... No question, his ceiling is amazing. Dude can throw 55 years on the run, easy. Regardless do you accept the risk, or go with someone safer. Sometimes no guts, no glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SMC said: What's hilarious about this type of reaction is that it's all premised on two Jets-centric things: 1) The fans utter lack of faith in Macc's ability to evaluate a QB prospect, and 2) The fans utter lack of faith in Bowles and the coaching's staff's ability to develop a QB prospect. If the Jets had a competent QB evaluator and competent coaching staff with an ability to develop QBs, then at 3 Josh Allen would be a no brainer. You'd be high-fiving in the draft war room after you handed in that card. But because of the Jets internal issues Allen is an incredibly risky selection. Nope. It’s my lack of faith in Josh Allen. I would say he’s a risky selection for any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: I think the surprising thing here is only one team wanted a private meeting with Allen. A lot of misdirection going on out there. The Browns haven't met with Barkley or Chubb, but I don't think that takes either guy off the board at #1 or #4. I have no problem with the Jets doing some straight up due diligence. I also won't freak out if Allen is the pick. Mac is gonna live or die by this selection, I hope he does so on his #1 choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, long suffering jets fan said: No question, his ceiling is amazing. Dude can throw 55 years on the run, easy. Regardless do you accept the risk, or go with someone safer. Sometimes no guts, no glory. My preference is Darnold rosen Allen mayfield honestly so yea I’d take him over Baker. The mayfield love is a bit out of control in these parts IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, slats said: A lot of misdirection going on out there. The Browns haven't met with Barkley or Chubb, but I don't think that takes either guy off the board at #1 or #4. I have no problem with the Jets doing some straight up due diligence. I also won't freak out if Allen is the pick. Mac is gonna live or die by this selection, I hope he does so on his #1 choice. The Browns wouldn’t draft Barkley if they had the first 4 picks in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, slats said: A lot of misdirection going on out there. The Browns haven't met with Barkley or Chubb, but I don't think that takes either guy off the board at #1 or #4. I have no problem with the Jets doing some straight up due diligence. I also won't freak out if Allen is the pick. Mac is gonna live or die by this selection, I hope he does so on his #1 choice. If allen were the pick a few years ago nobody would blink, but now the fan base isn’t ready to embrace an all or nothing prospect. also, it’s hard to get around the notion that allen simply doesn’t have the skills for bates’ offense, and whether we like this or not, that probably rules him out. When we first traded up to #3, the debate was allen or mayfield. As rumors shifted the browns pick to allen, that’s when the jets were linked with mayfield heavily since the thinking was that the giants would take darnold and the jets preferred mayfield to Rosen. Now, it seems possible that the jets may actually choose among darnold/mayfield/Rosen. And you know what, i still don’t know if the jets would take darnold, but i hope they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Titan24 said: Was the alpha male at the combine..... An alpha completes 56% of his passes, but he completes them with crazy hard gusto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Paradis said: So true. You know what I would love to know ? I would love to know I the Jets draft Mayfield or Darnold and that player fell off a cliff, would Jet fans stop Monday morning Qbing every move this franchise make . Coincidentally, if they took Allen and he solved a position that has been vacant since “let there be light” was spoken, would some of you folks give it a rest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, Titan24 said: My preference is Darnold rosen Allen mayfield honestly so yea I’d take him over Baker. The mayfield love is a bit out of control in these parts IMO Darnold, Mayfield, Allen, Rosen for me. Picking Allen, or Mayfield will require testicles, but I'm intriqued with what they would bring to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tinstar said: You know what I would love to know ? I would love to know I the Jets draft Mayfield or Darnold and that player fell off a cliff, would Jet fans stop Monday morning Qbing every move this franchise make . Coincidentally, if they took Allen and he solved a position that has been vacant since “let there be light” was spoken, would some of you folks give it a rest ? Best post ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: An alpha completes 56% of his passes, but he completes them with crazy hard gusto. Point taken and it’s a concern Not a baker fan but he could turn out to be something special who knows. I think this J Allen will be best QB in this draft followed by Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemusclyde Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tinstar said: You know what I would love to know ? I would love to know I the Jets draft Mayfield or Darnold and that player fell off a cliff, would Jet fans stop Monday morning Qbing every move this franchise make . Coincidentally, if they took Allen and he solved a position that has been vacant since “let there be light” was spoken, would some of you folks give it a rest ? Nope, the same people bitching about us potentially drafting Allen would be the same people complaining about us passing on him if he becomes a franchise qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Matt39 said: It doesn't, but he does fit the profile of a previous Qb Maccagnan fell in love with. If the private workout was in fact with the Jets, my gut says he's the pick. Maybe they want to make sure that what they saw at the Senior Bowl and Combine wasn't a mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Just now, artemusclyde said: Nope, the same people bitching about us potentially drafting Allen would be the same people complaining about us passing on him if he becomes a franchise qb. There are a lot of folks here who have made their bed will be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Titan24 said: My preference is Darnold rosen Allen mayfield honestly so yea I’d take him over Baker. The mayfield love is a bit out of control in these parts IMO When over 60% choose him over Darnold, I'd say that's 100% correct. I mean I love Mayfield, but cmon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Jet Nut said: So do most QBs picked at the top of just about every draft. Most top QB prospects are close to Allens size. Not so many are Mayfields size. Manziel is the only one I remember his size being a first rounder. Brees and Wilson were later round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, long suffering jets fan said: Manziel is the only one I remember his size being a first rounder. Brees and Wilson were later round picks. I’m trying to like baker....I am hes not R Wilson not athletic enough and the chances he’s D Brees are slim to none Btw listened to B Scott other day talking bout SI article and all baker nonsense. He will be hit and hit hard quickly . Moxie/bravado means nothing to 27-30 yr old men in nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 I'd be okay with the Jets taking Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, slats said: Would anyone be surprised to learn that the Jets also had private workouts with Mayfield and Rosen, but that Allen was the only one who let the cat out of the bag? This thread is utter nonsense. For the record, the Jets also conducted private workouts with Oklahoma's Baker Mayfield and UCLA's Josh Rosen. They skipped a private workout with USC's Sam Darnold. All four visited the Jets' facility. it's not a carefully guarded secret, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Titan24 said: I’m trying to like baker....I am hes not R Wilson not athletic enough and the chances he’s D Brees are slim to none Btw listened to B Scott other day talking bout SI article and all baker nonsense. He will be hit and hit hard quickly . Moxie/bravado means nothing to 27-30 yr old men in nfl Baker is the guy who scares me the most. Like there will be all this hype about the guy and then we'll see him in training camp and wonder "what the heck were we thinking?!" Josh Allen might need time to grow but he's a big, strong kid with a ton of ability that he needs to harness. I'd still prefer Darnold or Rosen before him but I will be one of the few on here who won't be upset at a Josh Allen pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Titan24 said: I’m trying to like baker....I am hes not R Wilson not athletic enough and the chances he’s D Brees are slim to none Btw listened to B Scott other day talking bout SI article and all baker nonsense. He will be hit and hit hard quickly . Moxie/bravado means nothing to 27-30 yr old men in nfl Are you more concerned about how Rosen will absorb those hits, or mayfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Paradis said: I may have to take a sabbatical and join my father and brother in brown town if this happened... Couldn't do it. Pack warmly. We'll miss you. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
long suffering jets fan Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 4 hours ago, legler82 said: Great video! Well worth the 16 min spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: Are you more concerned about how Rosen will absorb those hits, or mayfield? Rosen isn’t on this teams board...... I have that feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Titan24 said: Rosen isn’t on this teams board...... I have that feeling I think he is, but he’s 3rd. I think when the rumors started that the browns wanted allen, and they were still mocking darnold to the giants, the next question became, do the jets like mayfield or Rosen. And i think one of the big shifts in the qb rankings by many throughout the process is that mayfield has leaped ahead of Rosen on some teams boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: I think he is, but he’s 3rd. I think when the rumors started that the browns wanted allen, and they were still mocking darnold to the giants, the next question became, do the jets like mayfield or Rosen. And i think one of the big shifts in the qb rankings by many throughout the process is that mayfield has leaped ahead of Rosen on some teams boards. I think Rosen’s “views” etc are a problem... and it’s a real thing. Think this teams rankings are Darnold, Baker, Allen and it’s very close between baker and Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Pac said: No offense but I think Dilfers opinion is a bit more educated than you 2 buffoons sitting in pajama pants guzzling luke warm cans of Labbatts and calling your dog over to eat up all the broken doritos that fall from your faces as you chomp away. Don’t call me a dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, Titan24 said: I think Rosen’s “views” etc are a problem... and it’s a real thing. Think this teams rankings are Darnold, Baker, Allen and it’s very close between baker and Allen It’s not just his views. There is an aggregate concern with rosen’s lack of arm strength, mobility and durability. Then consider his personality, and this just adds to the concern. i think mayfield has a higher upside, with a better arm, better mobility, better leadership qualities and a pure love of the game. At this point, i think the jets are getting mayfield or darnold. And if the browns do take allen, that time the giants are on the clock is going to seem like forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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