baldman Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 If Rosen is a strong possibility, then why do just about all the Mock Drafts have the Jets selecting Mayfield? Are the analysts wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'd be surprised if it's Mayfield. The Jets have been way too obvious about wanting Mayfield. I bet it's Rosen, and I'm not thrilled about that. But it's not Allen, so that's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Because it is Mayfield, next question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, stoicsentry said: I'd be surprised if it's Mayfield. The Jets have been way too obvious about wanting Mayfield. I bet it's Rosen, and I'm not thrilled about that. But it's not Allen, so that's good. Time to get thrilled about that because he is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afjetsfan Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 It is a common tactic to publicly release false information on who you are going to draft. Has to seem legit to be believed. Not saying we don't take Mayfield, but I doubt that he is the #1 choice. If teams believe we are taking Mayfield, they are less likely to move up to #2 to take the guy they want. It could also push the Browns to wait until #4 to get their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 All speculation - your guess is as good as any of these mocks...probably better because you're closer to the team's thinking. My guess is their board is this... 1) Darnold 2) Rosen 3) Mayfield I don't like it at all - I would have it quite different but my guess is this is what they have right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I'm thinking it's Rosen. He's the best plug and play QB of the group. I'm hoping that all this Mayfield talk by the Jets was all just a smoke screen. I'd hate to think they were stupid enough to announce to the world their intentions a month ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, baldman said: If Rosen is a strong possibility, then why do just about all the Mock Drafts have the Jets selecting Mayfield? Are the analysts wrong? Yes. 100% if we don’t pick him. If we pick him they would be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: All speculation - your guess is as good as any of these mocks...probably better because you're closer to the team's thinking. My guess is their board is this... 1) Darnold 2) Rosen 3) Mayfield I don't like it at all - I would have it quite different but my guess is this is what they have right now. The Jets are very political and PR focused. They know that they could end up with Mayfield, but I agree with FJ that their board is exactly that. It only has to be 3 deep. We have more, but not necessarily all, color later, but my guess is that the Jets got comfortable with Mayfield but loved the other 2. So, with the 2 wild card teams ahead of them, there is a good chance they get one of the top 2, but if they don't, they get 3, who is the guy they "loved" the entire time. They can pick Mayfield and strut onto the podium victorious, saying he was their guy all along. GMs are obsessed with upside. Mayfield's size and lack of elite athleticism will limit him in the NFL. But he is a very good QB, better than who they have assuming Teddy is not healthy, and the best they will get likely in awhile. From what I have seen, I would rather have Mayfield for 3 pick money than Cousins for Vikings money. But my off topic question really is: If the Jets knew they were going to get a QB and had all that cap space, why didn't they sign Nate Solder to block for him, particularly if they get Rosen? And sign Richburg? That was stupid. Yes, they did not have the Qb yet, but he was definitely coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 IMO the only way the Jets pick Mayfield is if Darnold and Rosen are off the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, varjet said: The Jets are very political and PR focused. They know that they could end up with Mayfield, but I agree with FJ that their board is exactly that. It only has to be 3 deep. We have more, but not necessarily all, color later, but my guess is that the Jets got comfortable with Mayfield but loved the other 2. So, with the 2 wild card teams ahead of them, there is a good chance they get one of the top 2, but if they don't, they get 3, who is the guy they "loved" the entire time. They can pick Mayfield and strut onto the podium victorious, saying he was their guy all along. GMs are obsessed with upside. Mayfield's size and lack of elite athleticism will limit him in the NFL. But he is a very good QB, better than who they have assuming Teddy is not healthy, and the best they will get likely in awhile. From what I have seen, I would rather have Mayfield for 3 pick money than Cousins for Vikings money. But my off topic question really is: If the Jets knew they were going to get a QB and had all that cap space, why didn't they sign Nate Solder to block for him, particularly if they get Rosen? And sign Richburg? That was stupid. Yes, they did not have the Qb yet, but he was definitely coming. Very much same line thinking. Agreed. As for your question - I think with Mac, he has a price he's willing to pay - once that price gets past he walks away. He hasn't given out a whole lot of bad contracts, especially long term ones. There are still June cuts to come - and we have a lot of money left....I do really hope we go offense the rest of this draft. Defense will be fine, get our shiny new toy protection and some weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Because Mayfield to the Jets is the media’s wet dream. Whether he sucks or not, they have a headline everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 36 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Time to get thrilled about that because he is the best. He's a jackass and a huge injury risk. Just IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, stoicsentry said: He's a jackass and a huge injury risk. Just IMO. Hmm...i’ll let you ride with that... i think he’s a misunderstood guy and a victim to the draft process but alright. if he’s our guy, I hope you can learn to get behind him. That’s all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoicsentry Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Hmm...i’ll let you ride with that... i think he’s a misunderstood guy and a victim to the draft process but alright. if he’s our guy, I hope you can learn to get behind him. That’s all. I also hate him bc he's a millennial. But they're all millennials. So I hate them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Why do all Mock Drafts Have the Jets taking Mayfield? Because that is who most people think the Jets will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 It's funny. I don't mind Mayfield at all, and only Rosen would be a better fit IMO. But I'll lose respect for Mac being a TERRIBLE poker player if Baker is indeed the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, stoicsentry said: I also hate him bc he's a millennial. But they're all millennials. So I hate them all. Yeah..that’s a little unavoidable at this point in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 All the mocks today have Mayfield going 1, Barkley 2, and Darnold to the Jets. Lets hope this plays out and Buffalo wastes their picks to trade up for Allen, a QB who cant hit the ocean from the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, baldman said: If Rosen is a strong possibility, then why do just about all the Mock Drafts have the Jets selecting Mayfield? Are the analysts wrong? Because right now he's the popular choice so everyone follows that lead. It's like a flag in the wind. As the wind changes direction, so does the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jet Life said: All the mocks today have Mayfield going 1, Barkley 2, and Darnold to the Jets. Lets hope this plays out and Buffalo wastes their picks to trade up for Allen, a QB who cant hit the ocean from the beach. Seriously dude ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Yes. 100% if we don’t pick him. If we pick him they would be right. Wow. That's some quantum physics going on right there. You mind slowing it down for us bong-impaired folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 ugh, I really don't want the Giants landing Darnold. Browns - please take Allen. White makes right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, Thai Jet said: Seriously dude ? That was rough. I'm sure hes a nice guy though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said: It's funny. I don't mind Mayfield at all, and only Rosen would be a better fit IMO. But I'll lose respect for Mac being a TERRIBLE poker player if Baker is indeed the pick. How about giving Macc credit for “calling his shot”? If the Jets told everyone they wanted Mayfield, then traded up to #3 a full month before the Draft and got him that’s pretty amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just now, jetstream23 said: How about giving Macc credit for “calling his shot”? If the Jets told everyone they wanted Mayfield, then traded up to #3 a full month before the Draft and got him that’s pretty amazing. True. I suppose some credit would be due for that. I would still cringe a little for being that transparent though. End will justify the means though if he gets Baker. I just hope he doesn't pass over Rosen to get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, baldman said: If Rosen is a strong possibility, then why do just about all the Mock Drafts have the Jets selecting Mayfield? Are the analysts wrong? It won't be Mayfield only because that's who I really really really want it to be. It'll be someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, freestater said: Wow. That's some quantum physics going on right there. You mind slowing it down for us bong-impaired folks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: How about giving Macc credit for “calling his shot”? If the Jets told everyone they wanted Mayfield, then traded up to #3 a full month before the Draft and got him that’s pretty amazing. Gotta respectfully disagree. The whole draft process should be built around secrecy . I'd be pissed if he moved to 3rd to take Mayfield and did. But as I've said in the past no matter who Macc takes he can always say " we got the man we moved up to get" . Who the hell would know otherwise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said: True. I suppose some credit would be due for that. I would still cringe a little for being that transparent though. End will justify the means though if he gets Baker. I just hope he doesn't pass over Rosen to get him UNLESS Macc WANTS people to think he's transparent. Then in 2025 he tells everyone he's taking Bellows at QB when in reality that will be a smokescreen and his REAL intent is to draft Virginia QB Williamson in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: Seriously dude ? I know right ? What an outrageous statement, recent history proves that Allen would hit the ocean from the beach at least 56 or 57 out of every 100 tries , smh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 The Baker stuff is still in the air, but the smoke will clear come tonight. Rosen is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Mainly because everything points to the Jets picking him and has for a wile. There has only been rumors late to try and prevent being jumped for Mayfield. Early reports suggested their board was Darnold Mayfield Rosen with the thought Darnold was going first. I believe that. The Jets will select Mayfield if Darnold is gone, Darnold (but maybe still Mayfield) if he is there, and Rosen if both gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeves Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, varjet said: The Jets are very political and PR focused. They know that they could end up with Mayfield, but I agree with FJ that their board is exactly that. It only has to be 3 deep. We have more, but not necessarily all, color later, but my guess is that the Jets got comfortable with Mayfield but loved the other 2. So, with the 2 wild card teams ahead of them, there is a good chance they get one of the top 2, but if they don't, they get 3, who is the guy they "loved" the entire time. They can pick Mayfield and strut onto the podium victorious, saying he was their guy all along. GMs are obsessed with upside. Mayfield's size and lack of elite athleticism will limit him in the NFL. But he is a very good QB, better than who they have assuming Teddy is not healthy, and the best they will get likely in awhile. From what I have seen, I would rather have Mayfield for 3 pick money than Cousins for Vikings money. But my off topic question really is: If the Jets knew they were going to get a QB and had all that cap space, why didn't they sign Nate Solder to block for him, particularly if they get Rosen? And sign Richburg? That was stupid. Yes, they did not have the Qb yet, but he was definitely coming. Very good question - I was hoping they would do that. I'm much more pumped having our own Qb and never wanted Cousins. They should have planned ahead a bit better. It's not like Cousins is Michael Vick - maybe Solder wouldn't come to the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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