nico002 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The whole “Mayfield is a lock to Jets” forced Cle to take him at #1 instead of #4 where he would have been 100%. Cle SHOULD have gone Barkley then Mayfield but Jets forced the panic move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, nico002 said: The whole “Mayfield is a lock to Jets” forced Cle to take him at #1 instead of #4 where he would have been 100%. Cle SHOULD have gone Barkley then Mayfield but Jets forced the panic move. I believe you are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Very possible still should’ve took Barkley, worst thing that could’ve happened was they got Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 oh, I completely agree. We just got the #1 QB in the draft...and it's def. possible the Jets played the game and won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, nico002 said: The whole “Mayfield is a lock to Jets” forced Cle to take him at #1 instead of #4 where he would have been 100%. Cle SHOULD have gone Barkley then Mayfield but Jets forced the panic move. not a bad take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 How Baker Mayfield goes #1 is beyond me...let that sink in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Definitely believe that to be the case.... The Jets love affair for Baker felt fake to me the entire time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Interesting thought....although I do think Jets really liked Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan61 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Could have been Barkley 1 and Giants might have taken Darnold 2. Very plausible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamax99 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think so too,. But I do think Jets would have taken Baker . Over Allen . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, southtown24th said: How Baker Mayfield goes #1 is beyond me...let that sink in. Baker Mayfield biggest con man in the history of the NFL draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, southtown24th said: How Baker Mayfield goes #1 is beyond me...let that sink in. I really think he's going to surprise his doubters. I really do. I probably would have taken Darnold or Rosen over him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Very possible still should’ve took Barkley, worst thing that could’ve happened was they got DarnoldYou need to get a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, southtown24th said: How Baker Mayfield goes #1 is beyond me...let that sink in. Its Cleveland. The only reason why the Jets aren't the worst franchise in the history of the NFL 2 minutes ago, Barton said: Interesting thought....although I do think Jets really liked Mayfield Yah they liked that fire he brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Obrien2Toon said: Very possible still should’ve took Barkley, worst thing that could’ve happened was they got Darnold He's an elite player, no doubt, but I still question the positional value of a RB with a top five pick. I think the best situation Barkley could have ended up in is the Giants, since they already have a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The question is which QB did the Jets really really want? It might have been Mayfield and based on early predictions the Jets thought no way he goes 1 or 2. So it slips out that the Jets like him and the Jets basically blew it because they never thought Cleveland would pick him. BUT Mac and the Jets saved face by landing Darnold. This is the most likely scenario. It would be awful hard to believe that the Jets wanted Darnold all along and their plan was to say they wanted Mayfield in order to get Darnold. I have a hard time believing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, Freemanm said: He's an elite player, no doubt, but I still question the positional value of a RB with a top five pick. I think the best situation Barkley could have ended up in is the Giants, since they already have a QB Would’ve preferred Barkley/ Mayfield or Darnold if we took Mayfield than Mayfield/ Ward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, Nixhead said: The question is which QB did the Jets really really want? It might have been Mayfield and based on early predictions the Jets thought no way he goes 1 or 2. So it slips out that the Jets like him and the Jets basically blew it because they never thought Cleveland would pick him. BUT Mac and the Jets saved face by landing Darnold. This is the most likely scenario. It would be awful hard to believe that the Jets wanted Darnold all along and their plan was to say they wanted Mayfield in order to get Darnold. I have a hard time believing that. Think it's for the best. Mayfield has a big mouth which would have gotten him in trouble in the NY market. In Cleveland, nobody's really gonna care what he says, especially when the Browns go 0-16 again. Darnold, on the other hand, is the better QB and is a low key guy, so he'll do very well here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 That's plausible, though not a guarantee. They sure were all over him and seemed to visibly be enamored with him during the process... maybe it really was all just a ruse to drive up his value and make Sam slip? This doesn't feel like a cray conspiracy theory, that's for sure, I can see them trying this all while being genuinely high on Mayfield if it didn't work. Like maybe they were more than okay with showing how much they liked him because of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think Dorsey overthought this but hey I’ll happily take it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, nico002 said: The whole “Mayfield is a lock to Jets” forced Cle to take him at #1 instead of #4 where he would have been 100%. Cle SHOULD have gone Barkley then Mayfield but Jets forced the panic move. I think this is a strong possibility. Remember when Bowles publicly praised Mayfield. No coach does that. Browns master plan was to take Barkley 1 and Mayfield 4, but Browns got spooked by Jets, which allowed Jets to choose between Darnold and Rosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Nixhead said: The question is which QB did the Jets really really want? It might have been Mayfield and based on early predictions the Jets thought no way he goes 1 or 2. So it slips out that the Jets like him and the Jets basically blew it because they never thought Cleveland would pick him. BUT Mac and the Jets saved face by landing Darnold. This is the most likely scenario. It would be awful hard to believe that the Jets wanted Darnold all along and their plan was to say they wanted Mayfield in order to get Darnold. I have a hard time believing that. I think the Jets wanted Rosen thinking that the Giants would draft Darnold after the Browns took Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 No reason to move from 6. Cleveland wasn’t taking 2 qb. Worth risk stay 6. Paid way too much to get to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: How Baker Mayfield goes #1 is beyond me...let that sink in. Why have 1 Johnny Manziel when you can get a 2nd for twice the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, aec4 said: No reason to move from 6. Cleveland wasn’t taking 2 qb. Worth risk stay 6. Paid way too much to get to 3. You don’t know if it shakes out the same way Indy was desperate to trade down plus Darnold is a safer qb prospect than Allen and Rosen and I like those guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, SMC said: I think this is a strong possibility. Remember when Bowles publicly praised Mayfield. No coach does that. Browns master plan was to take Barkley 1 and Mayfield 4, but Browns got spooked by Jets, which allowed Jets to choose between Darnold and Rosen I think Mayfield charmed Dorsey in the interview. Manziel was the same way he also knew how to turn on the charm when the adults are around. Darnold is from what I heard actually a quiet reserved guy in person. Dorsey wanted sizzle. Let him have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think Haslam is a meddler. I think the Jets board was Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield. It was worth a trade to 3. They stuck to their board. The Cardinals have 3 immobile QBs. Mac does not believe in an OL. The Jets needed a tough QB who can throw on the move. Sanchez' biggest problem is that the Jets messed him up. Darnold can be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: oh, I completely agree. We just got the #1 QB in the draft...and it's def. possible the Jets played the game and won. But not probable. Cleveland obviously liked Mayfield better than Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, varjet said: I think Haslam is a meddler. I think the Jets board was Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield. It was worth a trade to 3. They stuck to their board. The Cardinals have 3 immobile QBs. Mac does not believe in an OL. The Jets needed a tough QB who can throw on the move. Sanchez' biggest problem is that the Jets messed him up. Darnold can be good. I liked Rosen and still think he will be good especially in Arizona that’s a very good situation for him. Allen has the tools to play in crappy buffalo weather but they dismantled their O-line I’m thrilled with Darnold. We finally got a legit qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: I liked Rosen and still think he will be good especially in Arizona that’s a very good situation for him. Allen has the tools to play in crappy buffalo weather but they dismantled their O-line I’m thrilled with Darnold. We finally got a legit qb Yes plus they too lost both their 2nd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, aec4 said: No reason to move from 6. Cleveland wasn’t taking 2 qb. Worth risk stay 6. Paid way too much to get to 3. Guy, we havent had a legit QB prospect since Pennington. Nobody will care about a couple of 2nd rd picks if Darnold pans out. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, nico002 said: The whole “Mayfield is a lock to Jets” forced Cle to take him at #1 instead of #4 where he would have been 100%. Cle SHOULD have gone Barkley then Mayfield but Jets forced the panic move. I think the NYJ wanted either Darnold or Rosen primarily. Darnold was their top pick (now obvious), Rosen was probably #2 with Mayfield #3...so they floated stuff about Mayfield and crossed their fingers...knowing they'd get one of them, and the smokescreen about Mayfield would come in handy if indeed they did end up with Mayfield at 3. Worked like a charm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, SMC said: I think this is a strong possibility. Remember when Bowles publicly praised Mayfield. No coach does that. Browns master plan was to take Barkley 1 and Mayfield 4, but Browns got spooked by Jets, which allowed Jets to choose between Darnold and Rosen yeah I'm well aware... just like no coach names an unsigned QB as the starter.... oops forgot :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Philc1 said: I liked Rosen and still think he will be good especially in Arizona that’s a very good situation for him. Allen has the tools to play in crappy buffalo weather but they dismantled their O-line I’m thrilled with Darnold. We finally got a legit qb The Bills are the Panthers. They will know how to integrate Allen. The Jets got the right player for them at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Nixhead said: The question is which QB did the Jets really really want? It might have been Mayfield and based on early predictions the Jets thought no way he goes 1 or 2. So it slips out that the Jets like him and the Jets basically blew it because they never thought Cleveland would pick him. BUT Mac and the Jets saved face by landing Darnold. This is the most likely scenario. It would be awful hard to believe that the Jets wanted Darnold all along and their plan was to say they wanted Mayfield in order to get Darnold. I have a hard time believing that. there is no way that CLE takes Mayfield unless the Jets pose as a serious threat....and no way the Jets had Mayfield over Darnold. If the Jets wanted Mayfield, there is no way they trade up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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