New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This has been the main decision with my friends about the pick. Darnold biggest knock is the high turnovers (22 ints and 21 fumbles) which experts believe can be coached out but are Bowels and Bates the right ones to do it? Will Bates coach Darnold up and become the new HC replacing Bowels or does he need to be replaced for a better option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, New York Mick said: This has been the main decision with my friends about the pick. Darnold biggest knock is the high turnovers (22 ints and 21 fumbles) which experts believe can be coached out but are Bowels and Bates the right ones to do it? Will Bates coach Darnold up and become the new HC replacing Bowels or does he need to be replaced for a better option? WE will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: WE will see. Obviously lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, New York Mick said: Obviously lol LOL That's the only answer I can give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: LOL That's the only answer I can give I couldn’t give a good answer because I don’t know enough about Bates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, UnitedWhofans said: LOL That's the only answer I can give Probably the best answer he gonna get .. cause nobody knows the future .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Bates coached Jay Cutler to his best seasons. Let’s hope he can get Sam playing at a high level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stark said: Bates coached Jay Cutler to his best seasons. Let’s hope he can get Sam playing at a high level He didn’t do anything for Cutlers turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryu79 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I didn't realize Bates was this rising star in league - the ESPN and Fox peeps were both raving about him, esp David Shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ryu79 said: I didn't realize Bates was this rising star in league - the ESPN and Fox peeps were both raving about him, esp David Shaw. Yeah he seems to be very well-respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, ryu79 said: I didn't realize Bates was this rising star in league - the ESPN and Fox peeps were both raving about him, esp David Shaw. 19 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Yeah he seems to be very well-respected. That makes me feel better. I didn’t know much about Bates outside of Cutler throwing a ton of ints under his coaching. Maybe the future HC of the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, New York Mick said: That makes me feel better. I didn’t know much about Bates outside of Cutler throwing a ton of ints under his coaching. Maybe the future HC of the Jets. He's the HC we deserve, but not he HC we need right now. Soon, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, New York Mick said: He didn’t do anything for Cutlers turnovers. True but cutler has always thrown INTs I can’t really fault a coach for a QB throwing and INT who knows what the player was thinking/doing when they threw them. I think int’s are on the player more so than his coach, always can be an exception. We will find out, and hopefully soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Bowles is on his 3rd OC in 4 years as HC. The odds are not good on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Bowles is on his 3rd OC in 4 years as HC. The odds are not good on this one. I’m hoping he replaces him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I’m hoping he replaces him. Certainly not going to happen at this point, I would be stunned if it does. So now pretty much no matter what, our young QB prospect will be assured 2 OC's and 2 systems in first 2 years. Not exactly the way to develop a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: This has been the main decision with my friends about the pick. Darnold biggest knock is the high turnovers (22 ints and 21 fumbles) which experts believe can be coached out but are Bowels and Bates the right ones to do it? Will Bates coach Darnold up and become the new HC replacing Bowels or does he need to be replaced for a better option? If not they are both gone very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I’m hoping he replaces him. Todd Bowles is out of mulligans on OCs. If Bates has to go, Bowles is going with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Certainly not going to happen at this point, I would be stunned if it does. So now pretty much no matter what, our young QB prospect will be assured 2 OC's and 2 systems in first 2 years. Not exactly the way to develop a QB. The FO can’t be that ******* stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, New York Mick said: The FO can’t be that ******* stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, New York Mick said: The FO can’t be that ******* stupid. The FO is comprised of a GM and a HC who both are on equal ranking reporting to the owner. Even if the GM is smart enough, which is suspect, the HC is not IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: The FO is comprised of a GM and a HC who both are on equal ranking reporting to the owner. Even if the GM is smart enough, which is suspect, the HC is not IMO. Woody has to see that Bowels is a problem. Do we need to take out a ******* billboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I'm more worried about Todd Bowles' incompetence. Here's a brilliant quote from Him last night on whether Darnold will play next season: "We're not going to throw him out there, but at the same time, we're not going to hold him back, either." wow. What an insightful quote. Thanks for clarifying, Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Woody has to see that Bowels is a problem. Do we need to take out a ******* billboard? Im in for $20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayNoToDMC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I can only go off his Job so far here. Josh McCown is who I figure the QB coach is this year. Bates couldn't coach Hackenburg to a single NFL snap in a lost year and Petty didn't improve at all. I'll grant I have no idea if Bates sucks or he's just been given hot garbage to work with. I guess we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Freemanm said: I'm more worried about Todd "We're not going to throw him out there, but at the same time, we're not going to hold him back, either." It’s like something you would read in a fortune cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Freemanm said: I'm more worried about Todd Bowles' incompetence. Here's a brilliant quote from Him last night on whether Darnold will play next season: "We're not going to throw him out there, but at the same time, we're not going to hold him back, either." wow. What an insightful quote. Thanks for clarifying, Todd If you take it at face value, i agree with him. If Darnold is not ready, let him sit and learn first half of the year and let him go second half. If he comes in and is the best QB, you play him day 1. What Todd really means is McCown is my guy, and if we are 3-12, I MAY give Darnold the 4th Quarter in the last game if we are already down by 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 He absolutely is. Playactions, bootlegs, roll outs with Darnold’s mobility and accuracy are going to be the staple of our offense for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, New York Mick said: This has been the main decision with my friends about the pick. Darnold biggest knock is the high turnovers (22 ints and 21 fumbles) which experts believe can be coached out but are Bowels and Bates the right ones to do it? Will Bates coach Darnold up and become the new HC replacing Bowels or does he need to be replaced for a better option? I'm quite surprised....... I didn't think you had any friends left Mick. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 My prediction is that the next HC of the NYJ is John DeFellipo. He will need to be hired as HC to basically be OC. What NFL QB does Darnold remind me of? Wentz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, The Crusher said: It’s like something you would read in a fortune cookie. Maybe he thinks he’s Yogi Berra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, SayNoToDMC said: I can only go off his Job so far here. Josh McCown is who I figure the QB coach is this year. Bates couldn't coach Hackenburg to a single NFL snap in a lost year and Petty didn't improve at all. I'll grant I have no idea if Bates sucks or he's just been given hot garbage to work with. I guess we'll see In all fairness Bill Walsh wouldn’t of been able to couch up Hack, it was a stupid pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 49 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I’m hoping he replaces him. Wonder if part of Bates getting the OC job is some promise about becoming the HC after another year of this idiot Bowles making a mess. And same with McCown; his contract prices makes no sense otherwise. Biggest laugh of the night was Sal Palantonio telling us how Bowles was so excited about his new QB, since Bowles doesn't know how a good offense works nor how to stop one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Bugg said: Wonder if part of Bates getting the OC job is some promise about becoming the HC after another year of this idiot Bowles making a mess. And same with McCown; his contract prices makes no sense otherwise. Gotta disagree. Like it or not McCown IS a starting NFL QB. His salary is easily in line with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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