Sarge4Tide Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Hope he comes in and does great things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kthisguy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Most Jets fans dont seem to realize that DL is actually a need for us now. Experts seem high on him so OkayYou are absolutely correct the DL needs some help. However, the OL needs so much more help. We are short on draft picks (5th I think is gone for SF corner back) and take the best tackle and if he fails move him to guard. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Dude have you been following the Jets under the Mike Maccagnan and Todd Bowles regime? We question and mock everything they do, because its usually bad. 25+ years scouting........ we haven't won jack sh*t in 49 years.................. Everything Macc does is usually bad? Man you need to put some glasses on. We have Sam Darnold because of Macc’s trade. If he wanted to go Shepherd then I’m going to assume that’s the best pick on the board for him. Its whatever, ride with the pick, don’t cry about it. I want one of you to play GM for a few months and let’s see how you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Everything Macc does is usually bad? Man you need to put some glasses on. We have Sam Darnold because of Macc’s trade. If he wanted to go Shepherd then I’m going to assume that’s the best pick on the board for him. Its whatever, ride with the pick, don’t cry about it. I want one of you to play GM for a few months and let’s see how you do. We have Sam Darnold because the Cleveland organization is dumber than the NY Jets organization. No one is crying we are disgusted with the pick of another player who if not on the NY Jets roster not in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I’m just mad because a guy that is raw and 25 means he may not even be productive until he is 27-28. That is insane. Yes, I understand the draft is a crapshoot etc but why draft someone that old that isn’t even ready? I don’t think Mac understands value, positional value and the time to develope/age factor of prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, kthisguy said: You are absolutely correct the DL needs some help. However, the OL needs so much more help. We are short on draft picks (5th I think is gone for SF corner back) and take the best tackle and if he fails move him to guard. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app We've got 1 pick each in every remaining round: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: We have Sam Darnold because the Cleveland organization is dumber than the NY Jets organization. No one is crying we are disgusted with the pick of another player who if not on the NY Jets roster not in the NFL. That is incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Mayock likes him and rated him 43rd overall in the draft. Others didn't rate him that high but most in top 100 or under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 The more things change.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We have Sam Darnold because the Cleveland organization is dumber than the NY Jets organization. No one is crying we are disgusted with the pick of another player who if not on the NY Jets roster not in the NFL. Okay, let me rephrase for you than, JW. We have a TOP 3 FRANCHISE QB because Macc traded Sheldon for Kearse and a 2nd and then flipped that very 2nd with two of our own for a Top 3 pick. He then had the smarts to take Darnold with 2 other top 5 QB’s still on the board. We have our 1st overall pick, a solid WR and a top 3 QB because of Macc. To put Macc’s successful moves leading up to Darnold off on the Browns ineptitude is utterly stupid and a huge failure of a deflection towards the truth. Macc thought Shepherd was the guy to go with so now he’s our guy. You people whine, b*tch and moan about everything..but then you want to say “Oh people will complain when we win the Super Bowl.” OH..ironic. Hes a Jet now, so you might as well put your big boy boxers on and hope for the best. A 2nd/3rd projected pick by the whole world and you actually think he wouldn’t be in the league without us picking him? Riiiiiiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, kthisguy said: We are short on draft picks (5th I think is gone for SF corner back) and take the best tackle and if he fails move him to guard. Yeah, but we have Dallas' 5th from a draft day trade last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I’m just mad because a guy that is raw and 25 means he may not even be productive until he is 27-28. That is insane. Yes, I understand the draft is a crapshoot etc but why draft someone that old that isn’t even ready? I don’t think Mac understands value, positional value and the time to develope/age factor of prospects. Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN 8m8 minutes ago More Jets third-round DE Nathan Shepherd will turn 25 in October: Maccagnan: "I really don't feel he's too old of an investment (for) a draft pick." Bowles: "I definitely think he's more pro-ready than people think." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3rd round , smalll school, sounds like Kendrick Ellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I’m just mad because a guy that is raw and 25 means he may not even be productive until he is 27-28. That is insane. Yes, I understand the draft is a crapshoot etc but why draft someone that old that isn’t even ready? I don’t think Mac understands value, positional value and the time to develope/age factor of prospects. Considering that he was mocked in the 2nd round, you have no idea what you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 One of Mike Mayock’s favorite players but most Jets fans have never heard of him so he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Okay, let me rephrase for you than, JW. We have a TOP 3 FRANCHISE QB because Macc traded Sheldon for Kearse and a 2nd and then flipped that very 2nd with two of our own for a Top 3 pick. He then had the smarts to take Darnold with 2 other top 5 QB’s still on the board. We have our 1st overall pick, a solid WR and a top 3 QB because of Macc. To put Macc’s successful moves leading up to Darnold off on the Browns ineptitude is utterly stupid and a huge failure of a deflection of the truth. Macc thought Shepherd was the guy so now he’s our guy. You people whine, b*tch and moan about everything..but then you want to say “Oh people will complain when we win the Super Bowl.” OH..ironic. Hes a Jet now do you might as well put your big boy boxers on and hope for the best. I was all in on Sam Darnold last season and I wasn't all in on suck for Sam. How many QB's did you flip-flop for? I bitch and moan about nothing you bitch and moan about everything and anyone. Give it a rest this board is JetNation.com not PatriotKilla.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 This pick isn’t bad. The real issue is having to trade both 2nds to get the qb so we missed out on beefing up the Oline with better prospects. I imagine next FA will focus on protecting darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kthisguy Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Yeah, but we have Dallas' 5th from a draft day trade last year.Completely, forgot about that one. Still hope they spend more draft picks on offense. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Mac nailed the Darnold pick, trade up, smokescreen and all. It was his masterpiece. He still makes really dumb decisions though that you would think a professional GM wouldn’t make is all. It’s not just he jets but our depleted roster is a result of multiple Jets GMs making these type of decisions over the last 10 years. I’m still very optimistic and behind this team but I can’t not critique his style of drafting or thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: I was all in on Sam Darnold last season and I wasn't all in on suck for Sam. How many QB's did you flip-flop for? I bitch and moan about nothing you bitch and moan about everything and anyone. Give it a rest this board is JetNation.com not PatriotKilla.com Flip Flop? Lmaooooooo. Tell me how flip flopping is liking two QB prospects. I’m dying to know. What, because i changed my avatar a few times I’m to be condemned to the pits of hell for my actions? Get a grip man. Nothing of what you are saying has anything to do with the main conversation at hand. You just like pointing fingers over dumb sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN 8m8 minutes ago More Jets third-round DE Nathan Shepherd will turn 25 in October: Maccagnan: "I really don't feel he's too old of an investment (for) a draft pick." Bowles: "I definitely think he's more pro-ready than people think." I hope so. These old guys rarely work out but I loved Pouha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Hard pick to support tbqh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 This kid had a 2nd round grade and the positional value is there. I don’t mind the pick, I just wish we invested in protecting our savior at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetlife33 said: This kid had a 2nd round grade and the positional value is there. I don’t mind the pick, I just wish we invested in protecting our savior at QB. I agree but this is better than reaching for a crappy prospect. now that we have the qb, finally, mccagnan should stick to BAP and buy needs in FA. That’s what he can do now that he has darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 37 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Yesterday we drafted a GOD QB today we draft a SHEPHERD! The **** is this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 His age doesn’t matter- it may be a plus. We get the guy in his physical peak during his rookie contract. I’m pretty much done giving DTs big second contracts so who cares about his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: The **** is this T0mShane 3:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Manish MehtaVerified account @MMehtaNYDN 8m8 minutes ago More Jets third-round DE Nathan Shepherd will turn 25 in October: Maccagnan: "I really don't feel he's too old of an investment (for) a draft pick." Bowles: "I definitely think he's more pro-ready than people think." Well, that settles that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Maybe this will just be our draft and a late round OL will pan out in the zone blocking scheme. Maybe next year’s draft and free agency will work out perfect for the OL. One thing that I must give a Mac credit for is coming through when it’s crunch time. He procrastinates like no other but then pulls off something amazing when it’s needed like the Richardson trade and the trade up for our QB. I’m done venting and looking forward to day 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 How was his 3 cone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: This kid had a 2nd round grade and the positional value is there. I don’t mind the pick, I just wish we invested in protecting our savior at QB. You think the NY jets would make it through the first 3 rounds without taking a D player ? Bowles is pissed he had to wait until the 3rd round for a d player. I don’t think that has happened in like 12 years lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, NoBowles said: How was his 3 cone? He ate 3 ice cream cones in 10 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: How was his 3 cone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 NFL draft guru Mike Mayock projects Shepherd to go somewhere between the second and third rounds later this month. “Malik Jackson (Jacksonville defensive tackle), that’s the comparison I’ve got, which is a pretty nice comparison,” Mayock said. “The nice thing for (Shepherd) is he can play inside and outside. “I think some of the 3-4 teams are going to like him as a five-technique, a defensive end. He’s very raw and how high he goes will depend on whether or not teams think he can rush the quarterback from any position.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I don't mind the dline pick. Even a 25 year old dlineman. But a 25 year old who may have to learn for a couple years is concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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