Jimmy 2 Times Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: Interesting. Thanks. Explains a lot. That being said, he's crazy talented that can be a star if he gets dedicated and puts in the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, C Mart said: That’s what you take out of those? Why can’t a “project” as you call him not have a high upside? And I didn’t take Shepherd’s writeup as just a run stuffing end. Just to be clear, I don’t think either are “bad” players and I’m glad Shepherd is in the team, but there’s a pattern with Macc that he drafts cheap positions and, outside of Darnold, ignores expensive, crucial ones. I was hoping he’d swing for the fences this year now that he’s got his QB, but it’s more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Learn his name Neal Sterling and you call yourself a Jets fan. Listen, you can route for the local kid as much as you want but to point he’s proved as much as a guy on any teams practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, T0mShane said: One is a run-stuffing 3-4 end and the other is a project tight end. Because what kind of players do you find on the 3rd day......... 2 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Canes sucked last year. Were also talking about C Long Long fits the zone blocking scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: See what happens when you do research. Same thing with Shepherd yesterday never complained about Shepherd, wouldn't have been my choice, but i understood the pick... plus he's canadian I remember more about Herndon now.. i think he was actually the starter over Njoku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Jimmy 2 Times said: That being said, he's crazy talented that can be a star if he gets dedicated and puts in the work. Yea. A guy that size with his speed and wingspan, been wanting one of those guys for a while for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, New York Mick said: Then you want better player not just low end jags Better than what we have. We had the worst C in the NFL last year. And IMO, it affected the whole line. By upgrading the C, they have upgraded the whole line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, NYJCAP2 said: Listen, you can route for the local kid as much as you want but to point he’s proved as much as a guy on any teams practice squad. Yes I will root for the local kid I watched him play in college and he showed a lot of promise in the NE game, given the opportunity the kid shows up. What practice squad TE did what he did against NE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 So the browns now house Landry in the slot, with Gordon and Callaway Potentially at X an Z.... Could the Jets fulfill my wet dream of trading for Corey Coleman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: No I was indifferent. Fitzpatrick = McCown. Almost. Fitz was a douche. McCown doesn't seem to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, UnitedWhofans said: Better than what we have. We had the worst C in the NFL last year. And IMO, it affected the whole line. By upgrading the C, they have upgraded the whole line. Definitely an upgrade but not good enough and the sh*tty OGs aren’t helping the line in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Embrace the Suck said: Almost. Fitz was a douche. McCown doesn't seem to be. Agree Fitzpatrick was a douche nozzle. Don't know about you guys but I can't wait for the day we can watch a young rookie energetic QB led this team I'm sick and tired of the 3rd and long draw plays and way too many 3 and outs. BRING ON SAM DARNOLD!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Just to be clear, I don’t think either are “bad” players and I’m glad Shepherd is in the team, but there’s a pattern with Macc that he drafts cheap positions and, outside of Darnold, ignores expensive, crucial ones. I was hoping he’d swing for the fences this year now that he’s got his QB, but it’s more of the same. My impression of Macc is, unless the pick drops in his lap (Williams, Darnold), he gets too cute trying to pull a rabbit of the hat rather than make the type of decisions that are obvious to everyone but him. It hasn't worked so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Definitely an upgrade but not good enough and the sh*tty OGs aren’t helping the line in the least. I agree. Have been and still am waiting for o-line. I think they plan on addressing it after the draft when some quality vets get cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Il Mostro said: My impression of Macc is, unless the pick drops in his lap (Williams, Darnold), he gets too cute trying to pull a rabbit of the hat rather than make the type of decisions that are obvious to everyone but him. It hasn't worked so far. Exactly Macc thinks he outsmarted everyone when he drafts or signs these type of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 FWIW.....Walter football is doing a minute by minute grading of all players. Herndon got a B+..the next two TE's drafted got a C- and a C+. Walter Football usually hates us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Il Mostro said: My impression of Macc is, unless the pick drops in his lap (Williams, Darnold), he gets too cute trying to pull a rabbit of the hat rather than make the type of decisions that are obvious to everyone but him. It hasn't worked so far. I think his calculus is this: “I have this nice, young man who plays this lame-balls position that I could fill in free agency for pennies, and I have this significantly better athlete who would cost a sh*tkoad in free agency , but who’s kind of a pain in the ass. Let me draft the first guy because at least he won’t embarrass me and I can say, “look, 80% of my non-descript draftees are still on the roster.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Il Mostro said: My impression of Macc is, unless the pick drops in his lap (Williams, Darnold), he gets too cute trying to pull a rabbit of the hat rather than make the type of decisions that are obvious to everyone but him. It hasn't worked so far. 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Exactly Macc thinks he outsmarted everyone when he drafts or signs these type of players. I hear you both but let's pretend we can rearrange Macc's drafts so that this year was year 1. We'd all be gaga that he managed to snag a FQB right away. Then we'd have the Leonard Wililams and Jamal Adams' drafts and think "he keeps adding core pieces". Then we put the Darron Lee one last and think "not great but he's allowed a bad draft". In short, I think the order of the drafts he's had greatly affect our view of the job he's done. I'm the exact same way as you guys btw. It feels like things fall into his lap nearly every year but I'll happily take that if that's what it takes for us to be a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, section314 said: FWIW.....Walter football is doing a minute by minute grading of all players. Herndon got a B+..the next two TE's drafted got a C- and a C+. Walter Football usually hates us. When you have a shiny new FQB, everything is looked at in a better light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Sweat to Philly. Dang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 sh*t the TE tore his ACL. Christ go with Sweat or one of the OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Embrace the Suck said: I agree. Have been and still am waiting for o-line. I think they plan on addressing it after the draft when some quality vets get cut. I still don't know why Macc didn't spend on that highly regarded guard Andrew Norwell. We had the money and that guy is supposed to be the equivalent of Quentin Nelson. We could've at least done that, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Embrace the Suck said: sh*t the TE tore his ACL. Christ go with Sweat or one of the OT. MCL and he was cleared apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Better than what we have. We had the worst C in the NFL last year. And IMO, it affected the whole line. By upgrading the C, they have upgraded the whole line. They are also changing everything on offense. I am worried about how Carpenter fits in but hopefully he handles zone blocking well and if Winters does what they expect from him, they could be okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Josh Sweat off the board, we will never get an Edge rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Ballage to the Goldfish. Yuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Interesting pick for the Fins. Second best receiving RB in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: When you have a shiny new FQB, everything is looked at in a better light. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Did the Pats trade down AGAIN?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, BurnleyJet said: Josh Sweat off the board, we will never get an Edge rusher Luckily you don't need one exclusively to win. Be easier but you don't really need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, BurnleyJet said: Josh Sweat off the board, we will never get an Edge rusher You mean, Freddie Bishop isn't the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Sweat was worth the gamble in the 4th for us. We’ve been looking for edge for over a decade it feels like. Could’ve been an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, New York Mick said: Interesting pick for the Fins. Second best receiving RB in the draft. Liked him because he reminds me of Ajayi. Unfortunately, he will be facing stacked boxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Just now, Jetlife33 said: Sweat was worth the gamble in the 4th for us. We’ve been looking for edge for over a decade it feels like. Could’ve been an answer. TBF they've been looking for a TE since the early 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Damn Iggles. Okoronkwo stlll out there? Won't be for long, now that I have mentioned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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