McCown ready to help Darnold succeed in NFL

[Gas2No99]

Josh McCown still hopes to start but embraces mentoring Sam Darnold

 

McCown ready to help Darnold succeed in NFL

 

 

Josh McCown isn't going to hand the starting quarterback job to Sam Darnold but he's more than willing to get the New York Jets' top draft pick ready to play.

In comments made to the New York media on Friday, McCown cited how young Darnold is, a point he noted on Twitter on Friday when he posted a text exchange with his daughter, Bridget, who noted the 20-year-old former USC quarterback is less than a year older than her.

 

"It's a journey," McCown told the New York Post in a telephone interview. "I think that's the key for everybody, is just to pace ourselves with his development. I think the skills are there. It's just going about the right way to bring them out the best as possible. I know the expectations are high, but we still have to understand that this is a young kid. He's still learning a lot about the game. As polished as he is, there are still things he's going to have to learn as he goes through it. We just have to do everything we can to make the situation as comfortable as possible for him to find success."

McCown, who will be 39 in July, started 13 games last season for the Jets before his season was ended by a broken hand. Before the injury he was enjoying a career season, posting career highs in passing yards (2,926), touchdown passes (18), completion percentage (67.3) and rushing touchdowns (5). He told the New York Daily News that he's going to training camp with the "mindset" that he is trying to win the starting job.

 

 

"If I wasn't interested in competing and trying to still improve as a player and get the best out of myself as I could, I wouldn't have come back. It wouldn't have made any sense to come back. I'm there for the team to do that," he told the newspaper in a telephone interview. "That's the best thing I can do for Sam... to give everything I got to the Jets as a player and show him the things that I've done that I believe helped me be successful and the things I believe can help him to be ready to go."

"The best thing I can do is look back in five years and Sam Darnold is in the Pro Bowl," McCown added to the Daily News.

McCown said he studied tape of Darnold before the draft and was impressed by his ability to make plays outside the pocket and throwing on the run.

"At this level, plays happen off schedule all the time. That's definitely an asset. I look forward to working with him. He's an exciting player. He's talented and he can do pretty much everything in different offenses. He can make all the throws and do the things you ask a quarterback to do. The playmaking ability is an elite trait and that's why you pick a guy as soon as we did. That's exciting," he told the Post.

 

 

 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

Did the Jets sign McCown to a 1 year deal?  Or 2 years?  I honestly wouldn't mind having him here for 2 years to mentor Darnold.  At the very least, I want to see McCown stay on as a coach of some sort.  And I'd like to see Bates stay here even if Bowles gets fired.  We need to give Darnold consistency in his coaching staff. 

[joewilly12]

Josh McCown days are numbered as the NY Jets starting QB. 

[Sonny Werblin]

Great leader. Ironic that he credits Chad Pennington teaching him how to truly be a leader when they both played in Miami.

[jetrider]

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"The best thing I can do is look back in five years and Sam Darnold is in the Pro Bowl," McCown added to the Daily News.

That sucks. A 5-year wait for a lousy Pro Bowl? Rather have a SB now and if Sam's in a Pro Bowl he's not prepping for a SB.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said:

 

 

Ironic that he calls his daughter by his exact role on the team.

[rangerous]

1 hour ago, joewilly12 said:

Josh McCown days are numbered as the NY Jets starting QB. 

how many days until game 1?

[Patriot Killa]

Sam Darnold on Josh McCown: Josh texted me and said: Whatever you need, I'm here for you. #Jets #NFLDraft

— Eric Allen (@eallenjets) April 27, 2018

[Villain The Foe]

2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

McCown earning that mentor money. 

 

[C Mart]

Josh McCown is ready to help Sam Darnold become an NFL star for the Jets

Manish Mehta   Friday, April 27, 2018

Sam Darnold will undoubtedly owe Josh McCown a great deal of gratitude for all the guidance that he'll receive in the coming year, but that doesn't mean the old man is going to just hand the Jets starting quarterback job over to the rookie. McCown's competitiveness and selflessness are intertwined. The veteran might be an open book, but Darnold is still going to have to earn the Week 1 starting gig.

"I'm going to go through camp with the same mindset," McCown told the Daily News Friday about how he'll try to push the Jets first-round pick this summer. "If I wasn't interested in competing and trying to still improve as a player and get the best out of myself as I could, I wouldn't have come back. It wouldn't have made any sense to come back. I'm there for the team to do that. That's the best thing I can do for Sam… to give everything I got to the Jets as a player and show him the things that I've done that I believe helped me be successful and the things I believe can help him to be ready to go."

"Coaches will make those decisions on when he's ready to play and when the time is right," McCown continued. "And I'll support him whole heartedly. To me, that's what it's about. It's about stabilizing this position for this organization. In the short term, if that means going out and playing games and winning games, then I'll do that. If Sam shows himself ready to go and they make that decision, then I'll support him 100 percent and be right beside him."

Unofficially, McCown is the most giving teammate in the history of professional football. Officially, McCown is an incredible resource for any young signal caller hoping to learn the intricacies of playing the most important position in team sports. His winding 16-year journey through the NFL has included eight stops. I dare you to find one former teammate or coach that doesn't speak about him in effusive tones.

He's a coach's and teammate's dream, a guy who understands the big picture in a cut-throat business. He admitted that his prime objective is to help the Jets reach the Promised Land, but taking an active in Darnold's development matters a great deal too.

"The best thing I can do is look back in five years and Sam Darnold is in the Pro Bowl," said McCown, who will turn 39 this summer. "That would be the most satisfying thing. We'll see. It'll be fun."

How much does McCown truly care about the Jets goal of finding a franchise quarterback? Well, he actually invested time studying the top prospects in the run-up to the draft to get a better handle on how he could assist the coaching staff after the pick was made. Darnold's skillset jumped off the tape.

"I watched a lot of tape to get a feel for who we might be getting, so I could be in a position to help Coach Bates and those guys as best I can in my role," McCown said. "Help them be the best players they can be. So, I've seen (Darnold's) tape. You put it on and you certainly see some impressive plays. His competitive fight and will and toughness are evident with the way he plays."

"You see different things outside of the pocket: Making plays and throwing on the run that impress you that certainly remind me of different players that I have either played with or have seen play," McCown added. "Without drawing unfair early comparisons, certainly those guys have star qualities. Everybody that gets picked that high has something that they do different than most guys. I was really impressed with his outside-the-pocket playmaking ability. That's one of the things that sets him apart from other guys."

Although McCown admitted that it's too early to know what Darnold will become as player (since they've yet to be on the practice field together), the veteran has no doubts that the rookie has the right make-up to succeed.

"As far as who he is as person, his character and everything I've heard about him, absolutely they got it right," McCown said. "Because I believe he carries himself the right way and he loves the game. That's important. You have to have that. You got to love this thing. At this position, it's got to be the most important thing to you. I have no doubt in my mind that that's the kind of kid he is."

The Jets' decision to select Darnold, who will turn 21 in June, prompted McCown's daughter to send her dad a text reminding him that the new quarterback is less than a year older than her. Once upon a time, Mark Brunell had strict guidelines that Mark Sanchez couldn't date his daughter. Will McCown impose the same rules?

"Hopefully we don't have to cross that bridge," McCown said with a laugh. "We'll just have to address that if it comes up. I know my daughter will have her nose firmly planted in a book or computer somewhere at the University of Tennessee studying like she's supposed to. Hopefully that won't come up.… I got to get to know him first. I think I'll probably lean on following Brunell's lead. Let's just leave it at a No… and make it easy."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/josh-mccown-ready-sam-darnold-nfl-star-article-1.3959688

[C Mart]

11 hours ago, Villain The Foe said:

McCown earning that mentor money. 

 

If Darnold turns into the QB we all hope he does it'll be the best $10m the Jets have ever spent

[Villain The Foe]

31 minutes ago, C Mart said:

If Darnold turns into the QB we all hope he does it'll be the best $10m the Jets have ever spent

I hope you understand what Im saying when I say this. 

 

It won't be because of McCown, it will be because Sam Darnold ended up being a good QB and we provided help on the offensive side of the ball. 

Deep down folks know this Mentor stuff is just fluff. No one can point to a mediocre/bad QB that has mentored a QB to greatness. 

Matter of fact, all of the great QB's that were expected to do it wanted no parts of being a mentor because that's not their Job. 

Joe Montana (Steve Young)

Brett Favre (Aaron Rodgers)

Tom Brady (Jimmy G)

Peyton Manning (Andrew Luck)

 

All of these young QB's that we talk about didn't need mentors. Dak Prescott didn't get mentoring from Romo, he took Romo's job given age/injury history, Watson didn't get mentoring from Tom Savage, Jameis Winston wasn't Mentored by Mike Glennon...nor was Trubisky, Wilson wasn't mentored by that guy who the Seahawks guaranteed 25 Million dollars to in order to be their starter but never seen the field because Wilson took it, Patrick Mahomes wasn't mentored by Alex Smith...etc. 

You know what I dont expect? I dont expect Ben Roethilisberger to mentor Mason Rudolph, I dont expect Tyrod Taylor to mentor Baker Mayfield, I dont expect Joe Flacco to mentor Lamar Jackson, I dont expect McCarron to mentor Josh Allen, I dont expect Sam Darnold to mentor Josh Rosen. I expect these dudes to compete for the job. If you cant do that then you'll never be good. The proof is in the pudding. 

Petty was mentored for 3 years by Fitzpatrick and McCaown, Petty is fighting to be the #3 QB on the team. 

Hackenberg was mentored for 2 years by Fitz and McCown, Petty is fighting to be the #3 QB on the team. 

 

This "Mentor/Player Coach" position is fantasy work and is only said to the fanbase in order for them to accept the fact that we have a sh*t QB room headed by veteran QB's who've won nothing, and young QB's who they missed on. 

That is the cold truth. If that mentoring was really legit and they thought it worked then the Jets would be prepping Petty or Hack for the season and we wouldn't have traded up for a QB.  When Petty was being "mentored" all the Jets did was draft Hackenberg the following season and overpaid Fitz to come back to the team. I highly doubt paying Fitz 12 million dollars was to get him to mentor again, and even if they did, if they felt like the Mentoring was working so well that they was going to pay that 12 million then there was no need to draft Hackenberg because Petty was going to be the guy once the 12 million dollar mentoring process was complete.

Now that Petty and Hack have been mentored for multiple seasons the Jets decided to pay McCown 10 million to come back to mentor? They bought in Bridgewater to mentor as well? And they move up in the draft to draft Sam Darnold? Well, what about the years of mentoring and developing those QB's with players turned mentors/coaches? 
 

We need to stop falling for the okie-doke and know when an organisation's front office is lying because the QB room is simply garbage and their draft picks didn't pan out. Because if their picks panned out McCown wouldn't be here, Bridgewater wouldn't be here and we wouldnt have traded up in the draft. 

 

[Larz]

I was told by experts here that McCown is actually a coach and the Jets are dumb 

lol

[C Mart]

18 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

I hope you understand what Im saying when I say this. 

 

It won't be because of McCown, it will be because Sam Darnold ended up being a good QB and we provided help on the offensive side of the ball. 

Deep down folks know this Mentor stuff is just fluff. No one can point to a mediocre/bad QB that has mentored a QB to greatness. 

Matter of fact, all of the great QB's that were expected to do it wanted no parts of being a mentor because that's not their Job. 

Joe Montana (Steve Young)

Brett Favre (Aaron Rodgers)

Tom Brady (Jimmy G)

Peyton Manning (Andrew Luck)

 

All of these young QB's that we talk about didn't need mentors. Dak Prescott didn't get mentoring from Romo, he took Romo's job given age/injury history, Watson didn't get mentoring from Tom Savage, Jameis Winston wasn't Mentored by Mike Glennon...nor was Trubisky, Wilson wasn't mentored by that guy who the Seahawks guaranteed 25 Million dollars to in order to be their starter but never seen the field because Wilson took it, Patrick Mahomes wasn't mentored by Alex Smith...etc. 

You know what I dont expect? I dont expect Ben Roethilisberger to mentor Mason Rudolph, I dont expect Tyrod Taylor to mentor Baker Mayfield, I dont expect Joe Flacco to mentor Lamar Jackson, I dont expect McCarron to mentor Josh Allen, I dont expect Sam Darnold to mentor Josh Rosen. I expect these dudes to compete for the job. If you cant do that then you'll never be good. The proof is in the pudding. 

Petty was mentored for 3 years by Fitzpatrick and McCaown, Petty is fighting to be the #3 QB on the team. 

Hackenberg was mentored for 2 years by Fitz and McCown, Petty is fighting to be the #3 QB on the team. 

 

This "Mentor/Player Coach" position is fantasy work and is only said to the fanbase in order for them to accept the fact that we have a sh*t QB room headed by veteran QB's who've won nothing, and young QB's who they missed on. 

That is the cold truth. If that mentoring was really legit and they thought it worked then the Jets would be prepping Petty or Hack for the season and we wouldn't have traded up for a QB.  When Petty was being "mentored" all the Jets did was draft Hackenberg the following season and overpaid Fitz to come back to the team. I highly doubt paying Fitz 12 million dollars was to get him to mentor again, and even if they did, if they felt like the Mentoring was working so well that they was going to pay that 12 million then there was no need to draft Hackenberg because Petty was going to be the guy once the 12 million dollar mentoring process was complete.

Now that Petty and Hack have been mentored for multiple seasons the Jets decided to pay McCown 10 million to come back to mentor? They bought in Bridgewater to mentor as well? And they move up in the draft to draft Sam Darnold? Well, what about the years of mentoring and developing those QB's with players turned mentors/coaches? 
 

We need to stop falling for the okie-doke and know when an organisation's front office is lying because the QB room is simply garbage and their draft picks didn't pan out. Because if their picks panned out McCown wouldn't be here, Bridgewater wouldn't be here and we wouldnt have traded up in the draft. 

 

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I hope you understand what I'm saying when I say this. 

It won't hurt. McCown wants to do it!  Darnold will be allowed to watch how to prepare and practice each day of the week. Of course his talent will be the deciding factor. They didn't bring Bridgewater into mentor. They were brought in prior to the trade up to #3 to compete for the starting QB job. Not sure you even understand what a mentor is. It's not a magician. It's someone you can observe, talk to, throw questions at and they provide you their knowledge, insight, and experiences. You and many here think mentors are magicians.  

 

How much does McCown truly care about the Jets goal of finding a franchise quarterback? Well, he actually invested time studying the top prospects in the run-up to the draft to get a better handle on how he could assist the coaching staff after the pick was made. Darnold's skillset jumped off the tape.

"I watched a lot of tape to get a feel for who we might be getting, so I could be in a position to help Coach Bates and those guys as best I can in my role," McCown said. "Help them be the best players they can be. So, I've seen (Darnold's) tape. You put it on and you certainly see some impressive plays. His competitive fight and will and toughness are evident with the way he plays."

[Cyberjet]

You're right a mentor is not going to make a non NFL talent  QB an NFL talent. That is self evident. What he does do is make every QB in the room better. He provides an environment that brings out the positives and maximizes their potential. Much better than having a selfish a hole veteran.

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, Cyberjet said:

You're right a mentor is not going to make a non NFL talent  QB an NFL talent. That is self evident. What he does do is make every QB in the room better. He provides an environment that brings out the positives and maximizes their potential. Much better than having a selfish a hole veteran.

Problem is Josh McCown has said he still a viable starter in this league, so does he want to mentor or start.

[Villain The Foe]

1 hour ago, C Mart said:

I hope you understand what I'm saying when I say this. 

It won't hurt. McCown wants to do it!  Darnold will be allowed to watch how to prepare and practice each day of the week. Of course his talent will be the deciding factor. They didn't bring Bridgewater into mentor. They were brought in prior to the trade up to #3 to compete for the starting QB job. Not sure you even understand what a mentor is. It's not a magician. It's someone you can observe, talk to, throw questions at and they provide you their knowledge, insight, and experiences. You and many here think mentors are magicians.  

 

How much does McCown truly care about the Jets goal of finding a franchise quarterback? Well, he actually invested time studying the top prospects in the run-up to the draft to get a better handle on how he could assist the coaching staff after the pick was made. Darnold's skillset jumped off the tape.

"I watched a lot of tape to get a feel for who we might be getting, so I could be in a position to help Coach Bates and those guys as best I can in my role," McCown said. "Help them be the best players they can be. So, I've seen (Darnold's) tape. You put it on and you certainly see some impressive plays. His competitive fight and will and toughness are evident with the way he plays."

It probably does hurt to some degree, and it doesn't work at all either. Why does it hurt? Because some of these QB's being mentored are coddled to the point where we're never able to actually see them play football, probably because they're being allowed to watch how a mediocre QB prepares and practices every day of the week for 2 and 3 years straight. 

The Denver Broncos didn't coddle Paxton Lynch or Trevor Siemian or any other QB with "mentoring" nonsense. They said they all looked like crap in practice but lets just see what they can do in a live game and maybe something clicks for them. It didn't, but at least the Broncos know for sure that the QB's aren't the answer through actual game experience. All Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown has done is take away playing opportunities in the name of "mentoring". No, there was no actual mentoring, they were the starters. The only reason why they play the mentor-role is because they're 39 year old QB's that aren't good. If they were 40 year old QB's that were good then they would make sure that those young QB's behind them were traded to San Francisco. I dont want some old-head mentor teaching our young QB that they should be mentoring their replacement. I want an old QB to show these young QB's that they're going to do everything in their power to make sure that those young QB's never see the field, and if they do, it's because they deserved it. 

This organization is so toxic and us as Jets fans are the enablers because we accept it. 3 straight years proving this doesn't work and all it has done was take snaps from those guys and we're probably going to release a 2nd round pick without ever seeing him play live football, all because we pay mediocre QB's 10's of millions to be the starter and to show young QB's how to "prepare and practice" for 3 years straight. 

Accepting this mentoring crap is Jets fans enabling this bullcrap. Fitz had a nice season for Fitz standards, we pay him 12 million the next year. The Vikings go to the NFCCG with Case Keenum, they dont pay him 12 million, they let him walk and they paid Kirk Cousins. 

Jets fans need to realise that this mentoring position is nothing more than games and excuses. Maybe the 28 million the Jets will pay for the 3 years of QB services from Fitz/McCown could have went to the offensive line. 

[C Mart]

1 minute ago, Villain The Foe said:

It probably does hurt to some degree, and it doesn't work at all either. Why does it hurt? Because some of these QB's being mentored are coddled to the point where we're never able to actually see them play football, probably because they're being allowed to watch how a mediocre QB prepares and practices every day of the week for 2 and 3 years straight. 

The Denver Broncos didn't coddle Paxton Lynch or Trevor Siemian or any other QB with "mentoring" nonsense. They said they all looked like crap in practice but lets just see what they can do in a live game and maybe something clicks for them. It didn't, but at least the Broncos know for sure that the QB's aren't the answer through actual game experience. All Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown has done is take away playing opportunities in the name of "mentoring". No, there was no actual mentoring, they were the starters. The only reason why they play the mentor-role is because they're 39 year old QB's that aren't good. If they were 40 year old QB's that were good then they would make sure that those young QB's behind them were traded to San Francisco. I dont want some old-head mentor teaching our young QB that they should be mentoring their replacement. I want an old QB to show these young QB's that they're going to do everything in their power to make sure that those young QB's never see the field, and if they do, it's because they deserved it. 

This organization is so toxic and us as Jets fans are the enablers because we accept it. 3 straight years proving this doesn't work and all it has done was take snaps from those guys and we're probably going to release a 2nd round pick without ever seeing him play live football, all because we pay mediocre QB's 10's of millions to be the starter and to show young QB's how to "prepare and practice" for 3 years straight. 

Accepting this mentoring crap is Jets fans enabling this bullcrap. Fitz had a nice season for Fitz standards, we pay him 12 million the next year. The Vikings go to the NFCCG with Case Keenum, they dont pay him 12 million, they let him walk and they paid Kirk Cousins. 

Jets fans need to realise that this mentoring position is nothing more than games and excuses. Maybe the 28 million the Jets will pay for the 3 years of QB services from Fitz/McCown could have went to the offensive line. 

we disagree and like I said you don't understand what a mentor is. It's definitely not "coddling". 

Note: I didn't read your whole post. I saw enough to know you don't know what mentoring means. 

 

[Jet Nut]

23 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

Great leader. Ironic that he credits Chad Pennington teaching him how to truly be a leader when they both played in Miami.

And yet there are all too many who scoff at the idea of Pennington as a QB coach because he had a bad arm

[Drums]

I know McCown is a competitor but I think he has about half a season left in him.

[Jet Nut]

11 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

It probably does hurt to some degree, and it doesn't work at all either. Why does it hurt? Because some of these QB's being mentored are coddled to the point where we're never able to actually see them play football, probably because they're being allowed to watch how a mediocre QB prepares and practices every day of the week for 2 and 3 years straight. 

The Denver Broncos didn't coddle Paxton Lynch or Trevor Siemian or any other QB with "mentoring" nonsense. They said they all looked like crap in practice but lets just see what they can do in a live game and maybe something clicks for them. It didn't, but at least the Broncos know for sure that the QB's aren't the answer through actual game experience. All Ryan Fitzpatrick and Josh McCown has done is take away playing opportunities in the name of "mentoring". No, there was no actual mentoring, they were the starters. The only reason why they play the mentor-role is because they're 39 year old QB's that aren't good. If they were 40 year old QB's that were good then they would make sure that those young QB's behind them were traded to San Francisco. I dont want some old-head mentor teaching our young QB that they should be mentoring their replacement. I want an old QB to show these young QB's that they're going to do everything in their power to make sure that those young QB's never see the field, and if they do, it's because they deserved it. 

This organization is so toxic and us as Jets fans are the enablers because we accept it. 3 straight years proving this doesn't work and all it has done was take snaps from those guys and we're probably going to release a 2nd round pick without ever seeing him play live football, all because we pay mediocre QB's 10's of millions to be the starter and to show young QB's how to "prepare and practice" for 3 years straight. 

Accepting this mentoring crap is Jets fans enabling this bullcrap. Fitz had a nice season for Fitz standards, we pay him 12 million the next year. The Vikings go to the NFCCG with Case Keenum, they dont pay him 12 million, they let him walk and they paid Kirk Cousins. 

Jets fans need to realise that this mentoring position is nothing more than games and excuses. Maybe the 28 million the Jets will pay for the 3 years of QB services from Fitz/McCown could have went to the offensive line. 

So youre hanging your entire theory about the value of a mentor on the fact that Petty and Hack arent talented enough to play NFL football?  

You really have no idea about mentors, what they help with and how vital they can be.  How anyone can even begin to argue that having a veteran around to teach a kid how to prepare, how to train, how to practice etc, etc is a negative defies logic on every level.  Its not games and excuses.  Its common sense and pointless argument that youre trying to push

[Villain The Foe]

2 minutes ago, C Mart said:

we disagree and like I said you don't understand what a mentor is. It's definitely not "coddling". 

Note: I didn't read your whole post. I saw enough to know you don't know what mentoring means. 

 

You didn't have to waste your or my time even responding then, you were more interested in responding to what you didn't read because you're only interested in getting your point across. 

The only note here is that you may not want to listen to my point of view, but your point of view has been tried for numerous seasons, and hasn't worked. Maybe you should learn what "bullsh*t excuses called mentoring" means. 

[Villain The Foe]

1 minute ago, Jet Nut said:

So youre hanging your entire theory about the value of a mentor on the fact that Petty and Hack arent talented enough to play NFL football?  

You really have no idea about mentors, what they help with and how vital they can be.  Not games and excuses.  You could have been this wrong in a lot fewer words

You thumbed up a person who said hey didn't read my entire response. That lets me know that you also didn't read my entire response so there's no point in holding this conversation with you as you're not interested in discussing the topic seriously...but to simply talk. 

[Jet Nut]

4 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

You thumbed up a person who said hey didn't read my entire response. That lets me know that you also didn't read my entire response so there's no point in holding this conversation with you as you're not interested in discussing the topic seriously...but to simply talk. 

Because whining that a mentor is a coddler is wrong and pointless.  I've discussed your post separately and stand by what I wrote.  Youre wasting peoples time arguing something that is pointless.  That you think its unnecessary to have a vet around to show the kid the ropes isnt a big deal.  

It says a lot that just about every single draft review mentioned that Darnold will benefit greatly by having Josh around to help teach and prepare him.  No matter how unneeded you feel it is.  Somehow it will hurt his development I guess

[Thai Jet]

3 hours ago, C Mart said:

If Darnold turns into the QB we all hope he does it'll be the best $10m the Jets have ever spent

Yes ! Plus the fact we don't have to play Darnold until he's ready.

[JoJoTownsell1]

23 hours ago, jetrider said:

That sucks. A 5-year wait for a lousy Pro Bowl? Rather have a SB now and if Sam's in a Pro Bowl he's not prepping for a SB.

I don't even know where to start with the stupidity of this post.

[Villain The Foe]

Just now, Jet Nut said:

Because whining that a mentor is a coddler is wrong and pointless.  I've discussed your post separately and stand by what I wrote.  Youre wasting peoples time arguing something that is pointless.

Because I dont care about mentors, I care about quarterbacks. I'll leave that mentor nonsense up to gullible fans that suck that stuff up. 

 

Like I said, you just want to jump in and talk. Keep supporting that important need of a mentor while seeing zero results of it. 

 

Have the last word Jet Nut, it'll be as pointless as having mentors teach QB's how to prepare every week for years, yet never see the ******* field. 

[Thai Jet]

8 minutes ago, Drums said:

I know McCown is a competitor but I think he has about half a season left in him.

That's valid. I think it depends on how the Jets are playing at the time ( their record) and how ready they feel Darnold is.

[C Mart]

1 minute ago, Villain The Foe said:

You didn't have to waste your or my time even responding then, you were more interested in responding to what you didn't read because you're only interested in getting your point across. 

The only note here is that you may not want to listen to my point of view, but your point of view has been tried for numerous seasons, and hasn't worked. Maybe you should learn what "bullsh*t excuses called mentoring" means. 

maybe you shouldn't lump everything and everyone together as a predictor. you don't understand what a mentor is..no biggie. good day

[Villain The Foe]

Just now, C Mart said:

maybe you shouldn't lump everything and everyone together as a predictor. you don't understand what a mentor is..no biggie. good day

TL:DR

[Jet Nut]

4 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said:

Because I dont care about mentors, I care about quarterbacks. I'll leave that mentor nonsense up to gullible fans that suck that stuff up. 

 

Like I said, you just want to jump in and talk. Keep supporting that important need of a mentor while seeing zero results of it. 

 

Have the last word Jet Nut, it'll be as pointless as having mentors teach QB's how to prepare every week for years, yet never see the ******* field. 

Because whats the F'n difference other than youll beat this to death???

You calling anyone gullible when it comes to QB talk is golden.  You think I'm gullible, as well as anyone who sees the value in McCown as a mentor is telling.  

[Villain The Foe]

Just now, Jet Nut said:

Because whats the F'n difference other than youll beat this to death???

You calling anyone gullible when it comes to QB talk is golden.  You think I'm gullible, that everyone else who sees the value in McCown as a mentor is telling 

Everyone else seeing him as a mentor means nothing when no one can point to the fruits his mentoring produced. 

 

Kick rocks already. 

[JoJoTownsell1]

13 minutes ago, Drums said:

I know McCown is a competitor but I think he has about half a season left in him.

Perfect

[Drums]

1 minute ago, Thai Jet said:

That's valid. I think it depends on how the Jets are playing at the time ( their record) and how ready they feel Darnold is.

Yeah I agree. There was one quote that made me come to my conclusion: "If I wasn't interested in competing and trying to still improve as a player and get the best out of myself as I could, I wouldn't have come back."

We paid him 10 million, which is as has already been mentioned is not a lot for a starting QB, but that's still a lot for a 39 year old journey man. This tells me they needed to sweeten the pot to get him to come back in the first place and this was their plan all along. "Be our safety blanket/coach"

[C Mart]

6 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

Because whining that a mentor is a coddler is wrong and pointless.  I've discussed your post separately and stand by what I wrote.  Youre wasting peoples time arguing something that is pointless.  That you think its unnecessary to have a vet around to show the kid the ropes isnt a big deal.  

It says a lot that just about every single draft review mentioned that Darnold will benefit greatly by having Josh around to help teach and prepare him.  No matter how unneeded you feel it is.  Somehow it will hurt his development I guess

He doesn't understand what a mentor is. It's as simple as that. Truly is. He thinks it's a magician.