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Patriot Killa

By Patriot Killa
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Who wins the starting gig  

98 members have voted

  1. 1. Pick 1.

    • Josh McCown
      65
    • Sam Darnold
      18
    • Teddy Bridgewater
      7
    • THE HOMIE JOEL STAVE.
      8

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Patriot Killa

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If a Darnold/McCown duel to see who starts, a Young DL battle and the various other intriguing UDFA signings don’t perk your ears up..

remember that Bruce Arians is going to be coming to camp to hang out and enjoy the show as well. We all know Bruce knows his way around QB development, with that said, I know he won’t try to “coach” or anything during this visit but it has to be a positive for Darnold to have him in attendance..maybe give him a few tips and tidbits that could go a long way in helping him catch on sooner. Darnold is a guy who likes to pay attention to detail and learn to better himself. We know the guy cares...should be awesome experience for him.

with that said..just for fun I decided to make a little poll and see what’s you guys think..

who wins the training camp battle and privilege to start for us in Week 1?

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Patriot Killa

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2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Josh McCown has been named the starter.  There is no competition.  Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Josh McCown was named the starter for training camp and has NOT been guranteed the job for Week 1.

Why is it so hard for people to pay attention to detail. Our QB does. Be inspired.

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1 minute ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Josh McCown has been named the starter.  There is no competition.  Why is this so hard for people to understand?

39 year old QB with a 23-50 lifetime record as a starting QB, regular injuries nearly every season he plays, and having played for 8 teams in 16 years.

Nope, no idea why anyone might ask themselves "does this player give us the best chance to win games in 2018".

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2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Josh McCown has been named the starter.  There is no competition.  Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Named starter heading into camp, doesn't mean it translates to the season.

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not real happy with mccown starting the season.  we can be hopeful that darnold lights up training camp and does start but the plan will probably be to not start him until game 4 or so.  it will really stink if they decide to start him after they are eliminated.

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1 minute ago, Warfish said:

39 year old QB with a 23-50 lifetime record as a starting QB, regular injuries nearly every season he plays, and having played for 8 teams in 16 years.

Nope, no idea why anyone might ask themselves "does this player give us the best chance to win games in 2018".

Overall a #3 overall pick, at that. McCown will go into training camp with dibs on 1st team reps. Darnold(the man we basically invested 3 2nd picks into.) will have all the opportunity in the world to take that job from him.

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5 minutes ago, British Jet said:

McCown should start week 1. It’s a no-brainer.

Bridgewater has one leg. 

Darnold getting sacked and fumbling in the 1st drive could ruin him and turn a crowd on him after five minutes. 

 

A no brainer would be to have an open and fair competition.  If the kid is close, give him the nod.  If he isnt, give the best the nod.  

If the kid isnt mentally strong, it wont matter if he starts game one or game 10, the crowd is going to turn on him at some point. 

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1 minute ago, British Jet said:

Hasn’t there been only like 8 QBs under 22 that have started week 1 since 1960?

I think Darnold would be younger than them all week 1. 

There is absolutely no need to rush him. 

But what if he outplays the others and looks ready by week 1?

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39 minutes ago, Grandy said:

But what if he outplays the others and looks ready by week 1?

Then you give him the keys and let him go to work...

 

The whole point is that it's on HIS timetable....we don't have to throw him out there like 2 of our last high picks..if he's ready week 1 then he goes out there....but I have no problem with McCown getting the nod until he is ready...

 

I do think we see Darnold play this season....i'm just not sure right now if it will be during week 1...

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53 minutes ago, Grandy said:

But what if he outplays the others and looks ready by week 1?

Todd Bowles then finds an excuse to keep him off the field. 

Everyone assumes its a fair competition and the best player will play . I'll be highly surprised if Darnold sees meaningful regular season work until mid season at best .

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1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Josh McCown has been named the starter.  There is no competition.  Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Actually not true. Bowles has been asked that and his response has been completely different than when asked the same question when we had Petty and Hack. Also remember, Darnold is now the face of this franchise. Owners want their most important player, playing. Worst case scenario Darnold starts by week 8, but he is also likely a better QB than McClown right now so he would win any legitimate competition.

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1 hour ago, British Jet said:

Hasn’t there been only like 8 QBs under 22 that have started week 1 since 1960?

I think Darnold would be younger than them all week 1. 

There is absolutely no need to rush him. 

I think the whole "sitting" thing is nonsense. You learn by playing. Its kind of like saying you can become a great golfer by practicing and watching the Masters on the TV. No, until you face that competition you never get to that level. Every snap Darnold loses is a snap lost in his development. I literally give him 100% of the first team reps in TC and most of the rest too. McClown does not need reps.This situation is nothing like Russel Wilson. He was a third round pick. Manning was a dumpster fire his first year, Aikman one one game, and they developed as QBs. Even Sanchez did well, it was Rex and Snachez less than 100% commitment to football that eventually destroyed him, not starting Day 1.

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3 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

I think the whole "sitting" thing is nonsense. You learn by playing. Its kind of like saying you can become a great golfer by practicing and watching the Masters on the TV. No, until you face that competition you never get to that level. Every snap Darnold loses is a snap lost in his development. I literally give him 100% of the first team reps in TC and most of the rest too. McClown does not need reps.This situation is nothing like Russel Wilson. He was a third round pick. Manning was a dumpster fire his first year, Aikman one one game, and they developed as QBs. Even Sanchez did well, it was Rex and Snachez less than 100% commitment to football that eventually destroyed him, not starting Day 1.

To be fair, this staff did not give McCown many reps last preseason.  We weren't sure who was going to start until the other two sh*t the bed so badly there was no question.

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I honestly don't care and hope it's not Darnold. It'd be great if it were Bridgewater so I picked him. My thoughts are, if it's McCown I'll have that weird fascination of wanting a higher pick again for an OL. If it's Bridgewater it'd be great if they won some, for trading chip or back up purposes. I really don't want to see Darnold until like week 12 if at all and only then under the right circumstances (like the OL gelling to a degree and not sucking). If he does end up the starter, I won't be upset, just worried. They need to get this right. I'm not confident with the product around him.

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13 hours ago, johnnysd said:

I think the whole "sitting" thing is nonsense. You learn by playing. Its kind of like saying you can become a great golfer by practicing and watching the Masters on the TV. No, until you face that competition you never get to that level. Every snap Darnold loses is a snap lost in his development. I literally give him 100% of the first team reps in TC and most of the rest too. McClown does not need reps.This situation is nothing like Russel Wilson. He was a third round pick. Manning was a dumpster fire his first year, Aikman one one game, and they developed as QBs. Even Sanchez did well, it was Rex and Snachez less than 100% commitment to football that eventually destroyed him, not starting Day 1.

I've always advocated that theory as well and was banging my head why Dumba$$ wouldn't play Hack last year good or bad, however I need to see good OL play the first few games before I put the kid in there. He needs to be our FQB for the next 15 or more years so no sense getting him killed if the OL can't protect him. I know he's got good escapability, but I for one don't want to see him running for his life everytime the ball is snapped. I've been waiting for another SB since I saw Namath win our first, and I want to see another few. I think Sam has the ability to get us there. I suspect and hope it will be for a coach that follows Dumba$$....

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14 hours ago, Warfish said:

39 year old QB with a 23-50 lifetime record as a starting QB, regular injuries nearly every season he plays, and having played for 8 teams in 16 years.

Nope, no idea why anyone might ask themselves "does this player give us the best chance to win games in 2018".

Bowles is so fukkin close minded , he kept McCowan in during games where we had no chance. Never let any other QB see the field until forced.  He is not the coach for a young QB. Hope our offensive coaches know what they are doing.  

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16 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Josh McCown has been named the starter.  There is no competition.  Why is this so hard for people to understand?

McCown has been named because Bridgewater is injured.  If he regains his health I can see the team revisiting that decision.

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14 hours ago, Warfish said:

39 year old QB with a 23-50 lifetime record as a starting QB, regular injuries nearly every season he plays, and having played for 8 teams in 16 years.

Nope, no idea why anyone might ask themselves "does this player give us the best chance to win games in 2018".

Yes , Based on what he did last year. Until he got hurt we werev in every game and could have easily won 3-4 more games if the breaks went our way.

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15 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Josh McCown has been named the starter.  There is no competition.  Why is this so hard for people to understand?

Bowles said if he's ready he'll play but they are not going to force him in there.  I think if Darnold crushes it in camp he has a chance to start, but there is definitely a thumb on the scale in favor of McCown.  I'm inclined to think Bridgewater isn't physically ready, but who knows?

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1 hour ago, southparkcpa said:

Bowles is so fukkin close minded , he kept McCowan in during games where we had no chance. Never let any other QB see the field until forced.  He is not the coach for a young QB. Hope our offensive coaches know what they are doing.  

Bowles and Rex cut from the same cloth.  Stick with the same QB and can't manage the clock.

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