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Do you guys see this as a possibility?... Or is he out?

Better question, do you WANT to see that?

McCown has the vegetable journeyman role 2018, And Bridgewater... who the fck knows, but even if he sticks, he's going somewhere else in 2019 if he's actually health (paging JAX)

I'd like see Hack be our hack

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6 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Do you guys see this as a possibility?... Or is he out?

Better question, do you WANT to see that?

McCown has the vegetable journeyman role 2018, And Bridgewater... who the fck knows, but even if he sticks, he's going somewhere else in 2019 if he's actually health (paging JAX)

I'd like see Hack be our hack

Well if Mac/Bowes had the balls to play the kid few games in a washed season maybe we could have found out more. But Bryce Petty was just too good to take out ?

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I think it’s more possible than most seem to think.

I know most fans think the guy is garbage and want nothing to do with him being on the roster, but let’s be honest, Hackenberg was always a 2-3 year project. I supported the pick when it was made but still knew it was a bit of a reach and the guy shouldn’t see the field for at least a year. Now, did I see him being 2 years in without seeing a single regular season snap? Hell no.

But I think he could surprise some people this summer. At least enough to where many won’t consider him a waste of a roster spot.

 

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33 minutes ago, Paradis said:

Do you guys see this as a possibility?... Or is he out?

Better question, do you WANT to see that?

McCown has the vegetable journeyman role 2018, And Bridgewater... who the fck knows, but even if he sticks, he's going somewhere else in 2019 if he's actually health (paging JAX)

I'd like see Hack be our hack

Not sure,  if Bridgewater can't play, Hack could stick.  Also next year if McCown is gone we'll need a 3rd QB, 

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33 minutes ago, jetstream23 said:

Practice Squad with a slight chance to be #3 QB in 2019.  Otherwise, it's sayonara! 

Pretty much this.

In an ideal world he would be the backup headed into next year, but given the fact that he hasn't even developed enough to get on the field in two years I don't think that's very likely.

20 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

I think it’s more possible than most seem to think.

I know most fans think the guy is garbage and want nothing to do with him being on the roster, but let’s be honest, Hackenberg was always a 2-3 year project. I supported the pick when it was made but still knew it was a bit of a reach and the guy shouldn’t see the field for at least a year. Now, did I see him being 2 years in without seeing a single regular season snap? Hell no.

But I think he could surprise some people this summer. At least enough to where many won’t consider him a waste of a roster spot.

 

We can only hope.

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I don't see it.  By this point in his career Henne had something like 3000 yards passing and had started for the bulk of a season.  Moore was an UDFA that still got 3 starts as a rookie.  He probably would have had more his 2nd year, but he broke his leg in the preseason.  Like that fat **** says "If they don't bite when they are puppies..."  

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931439/article/jets-christian-hackenberg-overhauls-throwing-motion

 

Jets' Christian Hackenberg overhauls throwing motion

The Jets released Bryce Petty on Thursday, leaving three quarterbacksahead of Christian Hackenberg on the depth chart.

Two years into his career, the 2016 second-round draft pick has yet to throw an official NFL pass. Is there reason to believe Hackenberg can push free-agent acquisition Teddy Bridgewater for the No. 3 job behind Sam Darnold and Josh McCown?

Last we heard from the team on Hackenberg's status, coach Todd Bowles said the former Penn State star has "got to correct a lot of things, obviously."

To that end, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported on Thursday's edition of NFL Up to the Minute, Hackenberg has been working with quarterback guru Jeff Christensen to rebuild his mechanics.

Christensen has worked with Jimmy GaroppoloKirk Cousins and Ryan Tannehill in the past. The crucial difference here is that Hackenberg has had to "start from scratch" on his throwing motion, Christensen told Garafolo. To this point, Hackenberg has been through 50 sessions with his personal passing coach.

If this story sounds vaguely familiar to Jets fans, it's because Tim Tebow underwent a complete reboot of his delivery in a last-ditch effort to salvage his career five years ago.

Even if Hackenberg is more successful in his own overhaul, his window of opportunity in Florham Park may have slammed shut.

Bowles has passed up prime opportunities to audition Hackenberg at the tail end of back-to-back lost seasons. General manager Mike Maccagnan traded a war chest of draft picks for the opportunity to hand-pick his quarterback of the future at No. 3 overall.

Without acknowledging it publicly, the Jets' actions suggest Hackenberg might not play an NFL snap before his rookie deal expires in 2020.

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1 hour ago, jetstream23 said:

Practice Squad with a slight chance to be #3 QB in 2019.  Otherwise, it's sayonara! 

You’d have to sayonara him first. If he clears waivers then you can sign him to the PS. 

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40 minutes ago, C Mart said:

You’d have to sayonara him first. If he clears waivers then you can sign him to the PS. 

He will clear. He hasn’t seen the field despite a wasted season with the worst QB situation in the league (after McCown went down).

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2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

Matt Moore is a free agent. You could literally just go sign the actual Matt Moore right now.

But as sure as my name is Lucky Day, the people of Santa Poco can conquer their own personal El Guapo, who also happens to be *the actual* El Guapo!

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4 hours ago, David Harris said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931439/article/jets-christian-hackenberg-overhauls-throwing-motion

 

Jets' Christian Hackenberg overhauls throwing motion

The Jets released Bryce Petty on Thursday, leaving three quarterbacksahead of Christian Hackenberg on the depth chart.

Two years into his career, the 2016 second-round draft pick has yet to throw an official NFL pass. Is there reason to believe Hackenberg can push free-agent acquisition Teddy Bridgewater for the No. 3 job behind Sam Darnold and Josh McCown?

Last we heard from the team on Hackenberg's status, coach Todd Bowles said the former Penn State star has "got to correct a lot of things, obviously."

To that end, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported on Thursday's edition of NFL Up to the Minute, Hackenberg has been working with quarterback guru Jeff Christensen to rebuild his mechanics.

Christensen has worked with Jimmy GaroppoloKirk Cousins and Ryan Tannehill in the past. The crucial difference here is that Hackenberg has had to "start from scratch" on his throwing motion, Christensen told Garafolo. To this point, Hackenberg has been through 50 sessions with his personal passing coach.

If this story sounds vaguely familiar to Jets fans, it's because Tim Tebow underwent a complete reboot of his delivery in a last-ditch effort to salvage his career five years ago.

Even if Hackenberg is more successful in his own overhaul, his window of opportunity in Florham Park may have slammed shut.

Bowles has passed up prime opportunities to audition Hackenberg at the tail end of back-to-back lost seasons. General manager Mike Maccagnan traded a war chest of draft picks for the opportunity to hand-pick his quarterback of the future at No. 3 overall.

Without acknowledging it publicly, the Jets' actions suggest Hackenberg might not play an NFL snap before his rookie deal expires in 2020.

Sounds like the Jets might have a Brees/Rivers situation brewing

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4 hours ago, jgb said:

He will clear. He hasn’t seen the field despite a wasted season with the worst QB situation in the league (after McCown went down).

But, if he clears waivers, he could sign on with the PS of any team he wants. That wouldn't automatically be the Jets.

He would probably be more likely to sign somewhere else, given the chance. Fresh start, in the knowledge he has no real future with the Jets.

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2 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

But, if he clears waivers, he could sign on with the PS of any team he wants. That wouldn't automatically be the Jets.

He would probably be more likely to sign somewhere else, given the chance. Fresh start, in the knowledge he has no real future with the Jets.

You don't think he'd choose the Jets so he'd have the opportunity to continue to play for the coach who loves him, Todd Bowles?  Come on!

As I've said before, the fact that Bowles hates Hack makes me think Hack might have some ability after all.  I wouldn't be surprised if Hack turns into a good player if the Jets cut him.  I want to see the guy at least get  a chance here.  After this year, I'm pretty sure the only QB we have under contract is Darnold.  Obviously McCown and Bridgewater can be brought back but there's a legit chance neither will be.  They said Hack was a 1-2 year project when we drafted him.  We all expected it would be a 1 year project but we've now already put 2 years into the guy.  We may as well see if he shows any promise in training camp.  Who knows, he could end up being our Nick Foles one day!

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It is going to be difficult for someone who has been so bad and couldn’t even leapfrog Bryce Petty on the depth chart to stay in this league much longer. 

Obviously we hope he can be a good long term back up. But I just don’t see it.

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I don't see it man. You can overhaul his mechanics all day, but his processing skills are shot and he can't deal with the pass rush. He seems like a nice kid, but he has no business playing professional football. 

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17 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

It is going to be difficult for someone who has been so bad and couldn’t even leapfrog Bryce Petty on the depth chart to stay in this league much longer. 

Obviously we hope he can be a good long term back up. But I just don’t see it.

The Jets cut Petty but not Hack (at least not yet).

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1 hour ago, mrcoops said:

But, if he clears waivers, he could sign on with the PS of any team he wants. That wouldn't automatically be the Jets.

He would probably be more likely to sign somewhere else, given the chance. Fresh start, in the knowledge he has no real future with the Jets.

Depends what he's after. If he's after a starting job - better off elsewhere (but chances are still very slim).

If he's content with a backup job, Jets may be an OK option - we have no-one else right now who will be a backup for us in 2019. Teddy will either play well and go elsewhere, or not play at all and get let go. McCown is not the future at backup.

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I want him gone. Get out of the way of Darnold. I don’t want coaches wasting one neuron thinking about this loser.
If he gets in the way of darnold that means one of two things either he has greatly improved which would be an amazing problem for us to have or darnold is a complete bust which would be tragic

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6 minutes ago, bealeb319 said:

If he gets in the way of darnold that means one of two things either he has greatly improved which would be an amazing problem for us to have or darnold is a complete bust which would be tragic

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Get in the way of his time with coaches / snaps.

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I just don't see what purpose Hack would serve being on the roster.  He has just as much regular season NFL game experience as Darnold.  Our coaching staff should not be trying to develop two young guys at the same time.  Hack has no role.  He should not be on the roster.  He should not be on the practice squad.  No reason to keep him around.  And it probably would be doing the kid a favor if we cut him and gave him a shot to catch on somewhere else.

If we need a back-up next year, we will be able to find one.

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I think Hack's issue is more than just his mechanics and accuracy. If you watched him in college and then watched in the preseason, defenders were often getting to him completely unblocked. When Petty or McCown were in, that never happened. 

For all the talk about him being great on the whiteboard, he seems to have trouble adjusting the protection before the snap. And he takes beatings as a result. 

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8 hours ago, Paradis said:

Do you guys see this as a possibility?... Or is he out?

Better question, do you WANT to see that?

McCown has the vegetable journeyman role 2018, And Bridgewater... who the fck knows, but even if he sticks, he's going somewhere else in 2019 if he's actually health (paging JAX)

I'd like see Hack be our hack

If he became Henne/Moore that draft pick would be considered a great pick instead of a wasted reach bust of a pick.

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7 hours ago, David Harris said:

Kinda unbelievable that a 3rd year pro is relearning how to throw a ball...kids got a sick work ethic and a sick build but his throw is broken

That’s a HUGE indictment on this coaching staff to not been working on this from day 1.  You know who else had a broken throw (well maybe not broken, but needed to be retooled) Aaron Rodgers, the Packers coaches fixed that he didn’t have to go see a specialist on his own, absurded.

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7 hours ago, David Harris said:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000931439/article/jets-christian-hackenberg-overhauls-throwing-motion

 

Jets' Christian Hackenberg overhauls throwing motion

The Jets released Bryce Petty on Thursday, leaving three quarterbacksahead of Christian Hackenberg on the depth chart.

Two years into his career, the 2016 second-round draft pick has yet to throw an official NFL pass. Is there reason to believe Hackenberg can push free-agent acquisition Teddy Bridgewater for the No. 3 job behind Sam Darnold and Josh McCown?

Last we heard from the team on Hackenberg's status, coach Todd Bowles said the former Penn State star has "got to correct a lot of things, obviously."

To that end, NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported on Thursday's edition of NFL Up to the Minute, Hackenberg has been working with quarterback guru Jeff Christensen to rebuild his mechanics.

Christensen has worked with Jimmy GaroppoloKirk Cousins and Ryan Tannehill in the past. The crucial difference here is that Hackenberg has had to "start from scratch" on his throwing motion, Christensen told Garafolo. To this point, Hackenberg has been through 50 sessions with his personal passing coach.

If this story sounds vaguely familiar to Jets fans, it's because Tim Tebow underwent a complete reboot of his delivery in a last-ditch effort to salvage his career five years ago.

Even if Hackenberg is more successful in his own overhaul, his window of opportunity in Florham Park may have slammed shut.

Bowles has passed up prime opportunities to audition Hackenberg at the tail end of back-to-back lost seasons. General manager Mike Maccagnan traded a war chest of draft picks for the opportunity to hand-pick his quarterback of the future at No. 3 overall.

Without acknowledging it publicly, the Jets' actions suggest Hackenberg might not play an NFL snap before his rookie deal expires in 2020.

I find this really fn disturbing. Not only the fact that the kid needs to "re-work" his mechanics, but the fact that it is being done IN HIS 3RD YEAR IN THE LEAGUE! WTF has our coaching staff been doing for/with him the past 2 years? Damn.

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