jetstream23 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Per Ian Rapoport. Video on NFL.com. Not a huge surprise but confirms the target was Mayfield and not Rosen, Allen. “They knew Mayfield would be there at 3 because he wasn’t going to go #1 and he wasn’t going to go #2” ”Of course, Darnold was the Jets top-rated QB” http://www.nfl.com/videos/up-to-the-minute/0ap3000000931996/Rapoport-Jets-traded-up-for-Mayfield-thought-Darnold-would-be-gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 i don't see where this is such a surprise anymore. the only big surprise is if allen was at the top of the jets chart after darnold. we will probably never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I can buy this. Just the way the Jets rushed to have Sam in the week prior to the draft showed that something changed and they wanted to look at him closer. That supports the thought that they didn't think Sam would be there prior to bringing him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Sam Darnold was the target all along the Jets thought they had no chance in drafting him thats why the hype was on Baker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20andOut Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Sam Darnold was the target all along the Jets thought they had no chance in drafting him thats why the hype was on Baker Mayfield. Hasn't this ground already been covered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, 20andOut said: Hasn't this ground already been covered? All of this has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Everybody knows this already. Maybe it's some kind of surprise to Rappoport, but this is stale news for any Jets fan with a pulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Sam Darnold was the target all along the Jets thought they had no chance in drafting him thats why the hype was on Baker Mayfield. How he could have been the target if the Jets thought they had no chance of drafting him? Mac has admitted that they were operating under the assumption that Darnold would be gone by the third pick. So they were obviously targeting another QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, detectivekimble said: How he could have been the target if the Jets thought they had no chance of drafting him? Mac has admitted that they were operating under the assumption that Darnold would be gone by the third pick. So they were obviously targeting another QB. what he probably meant was theat Sam was atop the Jets draft board, but they were willing to settle for Mayfield or one of the others in the event Cleveland, the Giants or some trade-up team snagged Darnold at picks 1 or 2. Using the term "target" is confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Dcat said: what he probably meant was theat Sam was atop the Jets draft board, but they were willing to settle for Mayfield or one of the others in the event Cleveland, the Giants or some trade-up team snagged Darnold at picks 1 or 2. Using the term "target" is confusing. By the way, Denver did try to trade with the Giants for #2 after Mayfield was selected. And apparently, the Bills may have as well. Mac is a lucky son of a bitch. But it's about time the Jets got a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Of course. I should have tweeted this "scoop." (I'm not on Twitter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 The Jets traded up to #3 because they were comfortable drafting any one of three quarterbacks at #3. Period. My guess is their board was Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, but we'll never really know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Per Ian Rapoport. Video on NFL.com. Not a huge surprise but confirms the target was Mayfield and not Rosen, Allen. “They knew Mayfield would be there at 3 because he wasn’t going to go #1 and he wasn’t going to go #2” ”Of course, Darnold was the Jets top-rated QB” http://www.nfl.com/videos/up-to-the-minute/0ap3000000931996/Rapoport-Jets-traded-up-for-Mayfield-thought-Darnold-would-be-gone Correct. Why Mac made himself fall in love with mayfield, thinking he never had a shot at the super model. I’m real curious what would have happened if giants took darnold, or traded the pick to someone that would. Maybe Chubb or Barkley is the pick. Why we signed bridgewater just in the very rare case they didn’t get 1 of the 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, jetstream23 said: Per Ian Rapoport. Video on NFL.com. Not a huge surprise but confirms the target was Mayfield and not Rosen, Allen. “They knew Mayfield would be there at 3 because he wasn’t going to go #1 and he wasn’t going to go #2” ”Of course, Darnold was the Jets top-rated QB” http://www.nfl.com/videos/up-to-the-minute/0ap3000000931996/Rapoport-Jets-traded-up-for-Mayfield-thought-Darnold-would-be-gone At this point who cares? Darnold is a Jet and that's that. Talk about being late to the party ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I was convinced it was going to be Browns - Darnold, Giants - Rosen, Jets - (bringing up the distant rear) Mayfield. I could not be more shocked or more pleased with they way things fell. Go Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, GREENBEAN said: I can buy this. Just the way the Jets rushed to have Sam in the week prior to the draft showed that something changed and they wanted to look at him closer. That supports the thought that they didn't think Sam would be there prior to bringing him in. I’ve read Sam declined visits because he thought Browns would take him. Last minute change had him making last minute sales pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Well Bowles opened his big fat mouth and gushed about Mayfield and it was true so we see how smart this guy is? Clue - not very! But Bowles lucked out! He flipping lucked out that we didn't lose them both and got stuck with Rosen. Bowles has got to go. What traits are the Jets keeping Bowles for? He not Rex Ryan is one. That's about it. What is he good at? You got me. I don't have an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 hour ago, GREENBEAN said: I can buy this. Just the way the Jets rushed to have Sam in the week prior to the draft showed that something changed and they wanted to look at him closer. That supports the thought that they didn't think Sam would be there prior to bringing him in. Ya they heard browns were interested in baker. Interesting they didn’t rush Allen or Rosen back just in case jets lost on mayfield and darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Thank you Cleveland and Giants for saving the Jets from themselves - Mayfield over Rosen would have been a circus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I think it’s time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, Nixhead said: Well Bowles opened his big fat mouth and gushed about Mayfield and it was true so we see how smart this guy is? He's a genius. But seriously, Bowles may have gotten the only organization more dysfunctional than the Jets to believe that we were taking Mayfield. I'm convinced the Browns wanted to go Saquon Barkley at #1 and Mayfield at #4. But they had to get Mayfield at #1 because the Jets convinced everyone he wouldn't get past #3. You essentially had the two organizations with the least success at finding franchise QBs over the past 20 years trying to show each other that they'd both leave Sam Darnold on the board to take Baker Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 hours ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: Thank you Cleveland and Giants for saving the Jets from themselves - Mayfield over Rosen would have been a circus... I texted all my friends who are giants fans a thank you when I heard this "With the 2nd pick in the draft, the New York Giants select Saquon Barkley, running back Penn State" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 hours ago, jetstream23 said: He's a genius. But seriously, Bowles may have gotten the only organization more dysfunctional than the Jets to believe that we were taking Mayfield. I'm convinced the Browns wanted to go Saquon Barkley at #1 and Mayfield at #4. But they had to get Mayfield at #1 because the Jets convinced everyone he wouldn't get past #3. You essentially had the two organizations with the least success at finding franchise QBs over the past 20 years trying to show each other that they'd both leave Sam Darnold on the board to take Baker Mayfield. be interesting to see what would have been pick 2 in that case...think would be Darnold. They could have had Barkley and one of the top 3 QB. i would have done that. i still wonder if staying at 6 and taking rosen would be better overall outcome. the 2nd round picks would have to work out. i would have taken 2 OL in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 20 hours ago, Dcat said: Everybody knows this already. Maybe it's some kind of surprise to Rappoport, but this is stale news for any Jets fan with a pulse. when the trade first happened Rappoport reported the Jets had 2 QBs on their board because the Giants weren't going QB everyone else on twitter said the Jets liked 3 QBs and that Rapp's tweet was BS, and Jets fans spent the next 6 weeks assuming they'd be taking the 3rd QB at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 We traded up to get (in our minds) the 2nd best QB and not get locked out of drafting a QB. We got the "best" (in our minds) QB instead. Thanks Browns and Giants. Is there a problem in any form with that? Seems like a good thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 19 hours ago, jetstream23 said: He's a genius. But seriously, Bowles may have gotten the only organization more dysfunctional than the Jets to believe that we were taking Mayfield. I'm convinced the Browns wanted to go Saquon Barkley at #1 and Mayfield at #4. But they had to get Mayfield at #1 because the Jets convinced everyone he wouldn't get past #3. You essentially had the two organizations with the least success at finding franchise QBs over the past 20 years trying to show each other that they'd both leave Sam Darnold on the board to take Baker Mayfield. If anyone pulled off this subterfuge, it was Mayfield’s agent, not the Jets. He saw that the Browns were legitimately interested, but read the same clippings the rest of us did suggesting the Browns could take Barkley #1 and “their QB” #4. He then, in turn, “leaked” the Jets interest in Mayfield. The Jets were fine with it, and stayed closed lipped. Dorsey panicked and took Mayfield #1. The Jets got lucky. Let’s not pretend they’re clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 51 minutes ago, Warfish said: We traded up to get (in our minds) the 2nd best QB and not get locked out of drafting a QB. We got the "best" (in our minds) QB instead. Thanks Browns and Giants. Is there a problem in any form with that? Seems like a good thing... We're not sure. We don't have a great deal of experience around here with that sort of thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I'm thrilled to be moving forward with Darnold... Actually, the Jets in my life have never been the beneficiary of drafting/signing "the guy" at QB - so this is surreal. That said, I loved Mayfied and would have been head over heels to hear his name too. Why CLE is getting lambasted for their choice - is insane to me. "Not what i would have done" - i get it, totally. "What a bunch of idiots"... fack off. Lets see where things are in a couple years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 3 hours ago, batman10023 said: be interesting to see what would have been pick 2 in that case...think would be Darnold. They could have had Barkley and one of the top 3 QB. i would have done that. i still wonder if staying at 6 and taking rosen would be better overall outcome. the 2nd round picks would have to work out. i would have taken 2 OL in the second round. Only time will tell on these guys but I agree. If I had to guess what would have been the pick at #2 if the Browns went Barkley at #1 I'd say there's a 70% chance it would be Darnold and 30% Chubb. We'll never know. But that would likely have landed Mayfield with the Jets if it was Darnold. As for the 2nd round picks (if we stayed at #6) I think similarly but probably would have gone OL and a TE there. TE was clearly on the Jets radar as they went with Herndon in Round 4, but there were some really good ones on the board early in Round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I begrudged giving up our 2s but that was because I never ever thought we'd get Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It sucked to loose the picks (even with us not having a great track record with seconds), but I can see a scenario where we get left with scraps at QB had we not moved. If Browns go with Barkley first, the Giants draft Darnold (or trade pick for Darnold), Colts likely trade out for a team wanting a QB, Browns take a QB at #4 leaving 3 QBs gone; with the run on QBs it is likely Denver trades out, and we get the 5th QB; maybe Denver doesn't trade, and we get the 4th. For a QB, it was too risky - I wish we still had those picks, but happy how it turned out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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