Breer Nugget

[KRL]

I figured I pass it along:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/05/10/pat-shurmur-eli-manning-new-york-giants-mmqb

8. The Jets were pretty pleased with how Sam Darnold practiced on Sunday.

[T0mShane]

That Breer is a goldmine.

[KRL]

The comment could be nothing, but considering Darnold was the consensus #1 QB and 
it was his third practice I figured I would pass it along

[T0mShane]

Not criticizing at all. The rest of the article is just Breer looking at the Giants draft and saying nothing interesting that hasn’t been hashed out on every Giants message board since the draft. 

[Happy Clouds]

16 minutes ago, KRL said:

The comment could be nothing, but considering Darnold was the consensus #1 QB and 
it was his third practice I figured I would pass it along

Thanks. Never hurts to try to keep the positive vibe around here.

Rich Cimini pretty much said the same thing in his column today. He wrote, “ team officials were particularly impressed by Sunday’s practice, which was closed to the media. They noticed a considerable improvement in his command of the offense”.

[Adoni Beast]

You can’t exaggerate results from a rookie minicamp too much, or it looks like your team is a joke. “Pretty pleased” is as much as you can put into an official quote at this point in time without looking like a desperate drooling simpleton.

But make no mistake, I’m sure the Jets are absolutely giddy beyond rationality. This is the first QB in 50 years (besides 3/4 of a season with Favre) that has truly elite talent. We saw some of the clips and Darnold was making throws look effortless. Whatever he was showing in relation to attitude, leadership, playbook retention, etc only further enhanced their celebratory delirium. 

I’m sure that “pretty pleased” comment was coupled with uncontrollable school-girl excited laughter and happy squealing. “Uhh...Breer, can you just post that we’re pretty pleased? Thanks.”

[JoJoTownsell1]

When the Jets have been dissapointed in how a player has looked, we have heard about it. So the fact that we finally have good news about a rookie QB leak out is a very very good sign. 

[varjet]

The amazing thing is that Darnold has looked better coming straight from college than Hack did in last year’s training camp.  

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, KRL said:

I figured I pass it along:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/05/10/pat-shurmur-eli-manning-new-york-giants-mmqb

8. The Jets were pretty pleased with how Sam Darnold practiced on Sunday.

I also saw this...

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The Jets were somewhat happy with how Sam Darnold performed at Sunday's practice. - Anonymous NFL source

Take it for what's it worth.

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

That Breer is a goldmine.

I thought he was draft breer.

[sec101row23]

9 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said:

I thought he was draft breer.

I’m surprised Breer can see anything beyond Belichicks colon.  His head is so far up Bills ass.  

[Lupz27]

This little nugget was probably thrown in to tweak the Giants fan a little considering most of the article was about the Giants draft.

On another note not because of this nugget, but every clue, crumb, piece of the puzzle whatever you want to call it, and some comments from a few talking heads who actually have inside info, but don’t leak that info in direct ways, but will answer questions that pertain to the info they have with out saying I was told, or a source said, but if I had to guess, the one guy, maybe this guy ect. because they are respectful of their sources that give them info off the record, and continue to get it off the record because they respect it.

All that stuff above when I look at it, and piece it together tells me the Jets have every intention to start Darnold from day 1 as long as he can know, and communicate whatever play book Bates designs for him, and is capable of handling the speed of the game, other then those 2 I think the Jets are prepared to deal with the rest of the lumps starting a young rookie like him will bring IE baited INT’s from a D front/look he never seen before, forced throws into coverage, and missing some check downs trying to make the big play.  Everything screams the Jets WANT Darnold starting week 1, and they think he will show he is capable in TC, and Preseason it’s just up to him to prove them right, and he doesn’t have to out play McCown, and Bridgewater if he is close enough, and can handle the other stuff I said I think he gets the job day 1 because you know the other 2 have shown their best to you while Darnold will get better the more he plays so it’s better to sacrifice him playing at a lower level to begin with if it means him playing at a much higher level then either of those 2 can ever play at later in the season, and most importantly in 2019.

[Dcat]

I don't know, Lupz.  I don't hear anything the Jets, their beat reporters or any other NFL talking head saying or doing that is "screaming" that they want Darnold to start Week 1.  Voices in your head maybe because many of us want Darnold to start right away.

[rangerous]

i thought the interesting part was about matty ice.  he's getting 5 years, with three guaranteed.  last time i looked, he certainly knows how to throw the ball but the way the falcons let down against the patsies is troubling.  i'm not sure if he will ever live that down nor do i think his pay will help the falcons build a better team.

[nycdan]

20 minutes ago, rangerous said:

i thought the interesting part was about matty ice.  he's getting 5 years, with three guaranteed.  last time i looked, he certainly knows how to throw the ball but the way the falcons let down against the patsies is troubling.  i'm not sure if he will ever live that down nor do i think his pay will help the falcons build a better team.

You cannot pin that loss in any way on Ryan.  He had his team up by 4 scores in the late third quarter (IIRC).  The defense completely sh-t the bed.  Yes, one more FG would have iced it, but really, they played scared to lose and we all know how that turns out.  Quinn is the one who should never live that down.

[JohnnyLV]

3 hours ago, KRL said:

The comment could be nothing, but considering Darnold was the consensus #1 QB and 
it was his third practice I figured I would pass it along

Actually there was another article that said his knowledge of the offense and command of the huddle was dramatically better on Sunday. Darnold is starting Day 1, it is becoming pretty obvious.

[JohnnyLV]

27 minutes ago, nycdan said:

You cannot pin that loss in any way on Ryan.  He had his team up by 4 scores in the late third quarter (IIRC).  The defense completely sh-t the bed.  Yes, one more FG would have iced it, but really, they played scared to lose and we all know how that turns out.  Quinn is the one who should never live that down.

That Super Bowl was literally the worst coaching ever. Not running to insure the FG that puts you up 4+ scores. Not literally snapping the ball with 1 or 2 seconds every single time. Had they done that, NE literally would not have had enough time to come back.

[Thai Jet]

3 hours ago, Happy Clouds said:

Thanks. Never hurts to try to keep the positive vibe around here.

Rich Cimini pretty much said the same thing in his column today. He wrote, “ team officials were particularly impressed by Sunday’s practice, which was closed to the media. They noticed a considerable improvement in his command of the offense”.

Positive vibes ! YES ! Just SO many downers/ negative posters  on this site it becomes quite depressing at times. Makes you wonder why they even follow the Jets.

[BrickTamland]

5 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

That Super Bowl was literally the worst coaching ever. Not running to insure the FG that puts you up 4+ scores. Not literally snapping the ball with 1 or 2 seconds every single time. Had they done that, NE literally would not have had enough time to come back.

It was a complete and disgusting sham. And yet so predictable

[Thai Jet]

40 minutes ago, nycdan said:

You cannot pin that loss in any way on Ryan.  He had his team up by 4 scores in the late third quarter (IIRC).  The defense completely sh-t the bed.  Yes, one more FG would have iced it, but really, they played scared to lose and we all know how that turns out.  Quinn is the one who should never live that down.

TOTALLY AGREE . No way can that loss be put on Ryan. Christ he lead them to a 28-3 lead. That loss was squarely on the defense that melted.

[Thai Jet]

10 minutes ago, BrickTamland said:

It was a complete and disgusting sham. And yet so predictable

Disgusting is right ! Wife and I wanted to just vomit during that 4th quarter.

[UntouchableCrew]

I suppose "pleased with how he practiced" is better than "couldn't hit the ocean" like our last young QB.

[nycdan]

3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I suppose "pleased with how he practiced" is better than "couldn't hit the ocean" like our last young QB.

Maybe the mere fact that he didn't hit a reporter standing on the sidelines is cause for celebration?

[Doggin94it]

49 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

That Super Bowl was literally the worst coaching ever. Not running to insure the FG that puts you up 4+ scores. Not literally snapping the ball with 1 or 2 seconds every single time. Had they done that, NE literally would not have had enough time to come back.

Well, either that or Carroll throwing on the goal line with Lynch in the backfield and multiple downs in his pocket

[Larz]

When the coaches get it right, Sam Darnold is pretty pleased 

[Nixhead]

3 hours ago, varjet said:

The amazing thing is that Darnold has looked better coming straight from college than Hack did in last year’s training camp.  

Agreed!  How did the same morons that drafted Hack wind up drafting Jamal Adams and then Darnold? Maybe they started to listen to and read some of the draft experts evaluations which are obviously better than theirs.

[Patriot Killa]

5 hours ago, Happy Clouds said:

Thanks. Never hurts to try to keep the positive vibe around here.

Rich Cimini pretty much said the same thing in his column today. He wrote, “ team officials were particularly impressed by Sunday’s practice, which was closed to the media. They noticed a considerable improvement in his command of the offense”.

Yep! I bolded that particular part when I posted it. I think that’s awesome and just shows how easy he catches on but the  more intriguing part being..how quick he might actually win the job as more information is processed.

[Happy Clouds]

6 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Yep! I bolded that particular part when I posted it. I think that’s awesome and just shows how easy he catches on but the  more intriguing part being..how quick he might actually win the job as more information is processed.

Apologies for not seeing that you had posted that somewhere else.

Unlike Sam, I’m not as quick at catching all the information in front of me. ?

[Obrien2Toon]

Interesting the Browns thought Ward had a higher ceiling than Chubb

i think I agree with that

though Chubb is a lot safer

[Lupz27]

1 minute ago, Obrien2Toon said:

Interesting the Browns thought Ward had a higher ceiling than Chubb

i think I agree with that

though Chubb is a lot safer

I thought Ward was a no brained to the Browns they have 3 edge rushers that would start on most teams already, but no CB’s to speak of.

[Patriot Killa]

9 minutes ago, Happy Clouds said:

Apologies for not seeing that you had posted that somewhere else.

Unlike Sam, I’m not as quick at catching all the information in front of me. ?

Lol oh no, you are fine brother. I was just saying that I had noticed the little nugget too and tried to bold it so people would know the guy isn’t just botching snaps all day lol. 

This may be the most exciting preseason of our lives just seeing how Sam handles the game speed.

[thshadow]

It seems like the things we pretty much know we'll get with Sam is:

• Great arm
• Great leadership
• Very good accuracy.  Can anticipate throws.
• Excellent throwing on the run

In the "likely / hopefully" category is - we think he'll do a good job picking up the playbook.

The main unknown - and really this is unknown for anyone drafted - is can he read defenses?  Is he capable of knowing what's going on both pre-snap and post-snap, and does he understand the play in enough depth to know what is supposed to happen, both blocking-wise and where he should go with the ball?

We're all more excited than we've been in years, because we finally have a (young) QB that checks almost all of the boxes.  And for the cerebral part - we have some evidence to think he'll be good.  And even if he's not right away, it's about the only thing on this list that's likely to improve with experience.

 

 

[JohnnyLV]

48 minutes ago, thshadow said:

It seems like the things we pretty much know we'll get with Sam is:

• Great arm
• Great leadership
• Very good accuracy.  Can anticipate throws.
• Excellent throwing on the run

In the "likely / hopefully" category is - we think he'll do a good job picking up the playbook.

The main unknown - and really this is unknown for anyone drafted - is can he read defenses?  Is he capable of knowing what's going on both pre-snap and post-snap, and does he understand the play in enough depth to know what is supposed to happen, both blocking-wise and where he should go with the ball?

We're all more excited than we've been in years, because we finally have a (young) QB that checks almost all of the boxes.  And for the cerebral part - we have some evidence to think he'll be good.  And even if he's not right away, it's about the only thing on this list that's likely to improve with experience.

 

 

He has mostly a "Very good" ARM but he is 20, and his arm strength will get better. Darnold is actually very very good at reading defenses and anticipation.  He fell because people expected him to have one of the great college QB years ever, instead of a very very good one. I cannot see him failing. He is SO good at all the innate things you cannot coach, and coachable at the few things he needs to address like turnovers and playing from under center.

[T0mShane]

8 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

He has mostly a "Very good" ARM but he is 20, and his arm strength will get better. Darnold is actually very very good at reading defenses and anticipation.  He fell because people expected him to have one of the great college QB years ever, instead of a very very good one. I cannot see him failing. He is SO good at all the innate things you cannot coach, and coachable at the few things he needs to address like turnovers and playing from under center.

He put up a bunch of games last year where the numbers were verrry ordinary, and finished with 26 TDs and 13 INTs. He straight up sucked against UCLA, whose defense was awful. He should be a great QB, but he’s not close to it right now. 

[Larz]

A breer nugget has potential as a snack Food